Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2687 posts, RR: 59 Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8707 times:
Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 5): Rumours are that Thai is looking to defer their 777 deliveries.
Just the opposite, actually. When Thai originally announced their order last year, they stated that the 777's would begin arriving mid-2007. As the press release above, and the production schedule states, the first frames will actually be arriving by August of next year.
Of course, it is Thai, and we may see another change.
Aviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1471 posts, RR: 15 Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8230 times:
With these latest deliveries, TG will operate a fleet consisting:
- Boeing 747-400
- Boeing 747-300
- Boeing 777-200
- Boeing 777-200ER
- Boeing 777-300
- Boeing MD-11
- Boeing 737-400
- Airbus A300-600
- Airbus A330-300
- Airbus A340-500
- Airbus A340-600
- A380-800 (to be delivered in 2007).
Perhaps when one factors in the engine choices, it is yet another story altogether. Traditionally, TG seems to have several aircraft types too many in its inventory . . . on one hand, one could call this a fleet with types that are specifically tailored to individual routes . . . on the other hand, it can be branded as being too diverse and costly to maintain. Then again, there are probably reasons for this diversity - as alluded to by ROP in reply no. 8.
Flykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 442 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8135 times:
Thai has historically had ETOPS problems and as far as I'm aware, voluntarily withdrew their ETOPS certificates for their 777's some time back. Perhaps this is also a consideration for purchase of a 4 engine aircraft.
One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time
Nimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3135 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 8023 times:
Slightly off topic, but I've flown only on their 345s and 346s (not the 777s). It was a magnificient experience, with the 36" of pitch (on the 345, and 34" on the 346), huge screens with full AVOD, and the lighting. Managed to sleep for 11 of the 18 hour flight (LAX-BKK), would definitely repeat that if I need to.
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11789 posts, RR: 48 Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7842 times:
Quoting GARPD (Reply 15): something about trade deficits and load of fish.
Are you suggesting Thai only bought Airbus planes because of political pressure? In that case, I think you may have the wrong end of the stick - the Thai Government threatened not to sign the deal unless the EU reduced import tariffs on Thai prawns. So yes, politics, but pressure from Thailand not the EU!
Quote: A major aircraft deal between Thailand and European consortium Airbus is likely to go ahead despite threats of a delay by the Thai government blamed on political grandstanding ahead of national elections, analysts said.
Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra said Tuesday that
national flag carrier Thai Airways International would delay signing a purchase agreement for eight Airbus aircraft, including six A380 superjumbos, while demanding that the European Union ease trade rules covering Thailand's shrimp, poultry and farm products.
The Thai cabinet had approved the 96.3 billion baht (2.4 billion dollars) deal to buy 14 aircraft for the national carrier, to be split between rival manufacturers Boeing and the European consortium Airbus, but it rejected a cash-only deal.
Analysts said, however, that the Airbus deal was on the verge of being completed and the delay threat was for the benefit of a domestic audience ahead of a Thaksin re-election bid expected in February next year".
PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6813 posts, RR: 65 Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7798 times:
Thai were an early customer for both the A330-300 and for the 777-200 so they already operate family members from each line. They ordered 777-200ERs and A345/346s at much the same time. They are different aircraft for different jobs. The 777-200ER doesn't have the range of the A345 or the capacity of the A346. Had they started from scratch, they might have tried to manage with just one of the A330/340 or 777 families but once they already had both it wasn't such an odd decision to add further members of each family.