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User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1090 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4164 times:

Hi can anyone tell me if AA still has 'More room in coach' ??
and if so is it on the LHRLAX route and vv.
Also anyone know what booking class in GDS it is ??

Kind regards,

Jordan

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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4152 times:
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I believe MRTC has been removed from all aircraft!

JBLU


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

If it is a good price go for it, the crew are great on this route.

User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1563 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

AA still had MRTC on LHR-LAX in May, I beleive it is still there for international services at the moment. Any booking class for economy will get you the seats (More Room THROUGHOUT Coach)  Wink

Have a look at http://www.seatguru.com to give you an idea of the best seat rows for AA's 777's.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

MRTC is history. Being tall I can really tell the difference. and after a couple of trans-Atlantic flights on American, I would ask why would you want to fly them, unless they are that much cheaper?

User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5178 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

The only planes that completely lost MRTC are the 757s and the A300s. AA put 2 rows of coach seats back into those planes.

The rest of the fleet, MD-80s, 737s, 767s, and 777s, had only 1 row of coach put back.

I can't speak for the rest of the fleet, but the MD-80s are a little hit and miss. Some of the seats on the 3-side are still roomy, but some of the seats on the 2-side are tight. AA took out the closet on the 2-side that divided first and coach and put in 2 first-class seats. It appears that the extra fow of seats in first take more space in the cabin than the closet did.


User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1090 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Thanks guys !!
needed the info..Im not the traveller, I had to get some comparisons between BA, VS, AA on the LHRLAX route..

Jordan


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

This thread is quite old. Has been discussed over and over here.
MRTC is practically gone. Just a few B738 and even few others keep it until today. Definitely it was a bad marketing policy.

[Edited 2005-12-20 16:09:50]

User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5178 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3944 times:

TACAA320:

It wasn't a bad marketing policy. It was just bad marketing. From what I understand, AA marketed MRTC in its major markets, Boston, New York, Miami, Chicago, D/FW, L.A., and San Francisco. But the marketing was never pushed nationwide.


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3936 times:

...or even to London.

If there were 2 of you travelling on a B777 or B767 it was very comfortable. I went to LAX, JFK and MIA from LHR.


User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4002 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3873 times:

You'll get MRTC version II: more rows throughout coach Big grin

User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3830 times:

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 8):
It wasn't a bad marketing policy. It was just bad marketing. From what I understand, AA marketed MRTC in its major markets, Boston, New York, Miami, Chicago, D/FW, L.A., and San Francisco. But the marketing was never pushed nationwide.

It really wouldn't have mattered, the result would have been the same. Before TWA was bought by AA, they experimented with "Comfort Class", which is basically the same thing as MRTC. It didn't work then, it didn't work for AA. Price rules.


User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 10):
You'll get MRTC version II: more rows throughout coach

LOL


User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3764 times:

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 6):
Thanks guys !!
needed the info..Im not the traveller, I had to get some comparisons between BA, VS, AA on the LHRLAX route..

Don't forget UA. They still have Economy Plus and fly that route on a 777 daily. Oh, and NZ still flies it too.


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3748 times:

just for kicks I looked up LAX-LHR in March and it was CHEAP! 500 dollars R/T. Good for AA with keeping MRTC in Int'l routes.

Tommy in EWR/LAX.



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User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3705 times:

According to www.seatguru.com the AA 777s are back to 31-32" seat pitch. Back to the industry standards.

pilottim747



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User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3677 times:

My Mum and Dad flew LHR-JFK for a weekend break last week and they said the leg room was extremely good. I think it's 36" isn't it?

DC-10


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 7):
Definitely it was a bad marketing policy.

Pity.

I used to go out of my way to fly to JFK to catch an AA flight to Europe just for the MRTC. Now, I'll just use miles to upgrade on tacky United from Dulles.


User currently offlineGipper913 From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 176 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3599 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 17):
Pity.

I used to go out of my way to fly to JFK to catch an AA flight to Europe just for the MRTC. Now, I'll just use miles to upgrade on tacky United from Dulles.

Doing the same! I miss the MRTC! Used to go out of my way to fly AA....now I only do so when my CC mileage is such that I can get free FC / Biz Class seats. Ironic that the LCCs now have better legroom - I'll take B6 A320 LGB-JFK rather than AA in coach on a 767 from LAX-JFK - for the LEGROOM!



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User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

Quoting Gipper913 (Reply 18):
Doing the same! I miss the MRTC! Used to go out of my way to fly AA....now I only do so when my CC mileage is such that I can get free FC / Biz Class seats. Ironic that the LCCs now have better legroom - I'll take B6 A320 LGB-JFK rather than AA in coach on a 767 from LAX-JFK - for the LEGROOM!

Compare B6 to UA though and it's not as good on LAX/LGB-JFK. UA has all Y+ on the p.s. service, so it's 34" throughout. B6 is 32" in front of the wing and 34" behind. And UA will still serve you a hot meal (talk about a rarity).


User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 731 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

Quoting Goingboeing (Reply 11):
Price rules.

Nothing could be more true. Everyone wants it until it is time to pay for it....

AJMIA



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 17):
Pity.



Quoting Gipper913 (Reply 18):
Doing the same! I miss the MRTC!

Tell me about it. I loved flying AA during those days coz it really made a difference on long haul flights.

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 6):
I had to get some comparisons between BA, VS, AA on the LHRLAX route..

Try VS... The F/A's are hot (no disrespect to other airlines F/A's)  biggrin 


User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3302 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 17):

I used to go out of my way to fly to JFK to catch an AA flight to Europe just for the MRTC.

That's what I always prefer BA over AA. With and without the so "famous" MRTC. Service, security, friendliness, good clean modern aircrafts, I find every single detail better in BA tan AA. Even LH [without PTV] is a much better choice.


User currently offlineORD From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3192 times:

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 8):
It wasn't a bad marketing policy. It was just bad marketing. From what I understand, AA marketed MRTC in its major markets, Boston, New York, Miami, Chicago, D/FW, L.A., and San Francisco. But the marketing was never pushed nationwide.

AA did advertise nationally. What you just described is a national advertising schedule with local buys. No airline advertises is every market. The cost would not be worth it for the small number of people being reached. For example, it would make no sense for AA to run a full-page newspaper ad in, say, Minneapolis. Airlines simply do their marketing in their key markets/largest markets.

Also, there is a difference between a marketing message and how that message gets out to the public. You can have a great message, but it does no good if nobody sees the marketing. Conversely, you can have a bad message that gets out to everyone.

In this case I think AA had a good message and reached the right people. The MRTC product was just not right for the current market.


User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1090 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3162 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 21):
Try VS... The F/A's are hot (no disrespect to other airlines F/A's)

Hey Tink...
true dat !!  bouncy   bouncy 


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