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New Air Wales (UK) Routes  
User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3982 times:

I have just visited the Air Wales website to find the launch on 4 new services from the small Welsh carrier. When exactually are the new services from Cardiff to Brussels and Belfast City, and also Cork to Newquay and Exeter. Are Air Wales still going to be providing services for bmiBaby WW from CWL to PIK,BFS,JER,ORK & CDG. I understand Air Wales is to stop serving bmiBay routes due to a new aircraft placement next year for routes to BFS and GLA not PIK. Any idea on dates and timetables please of these new "strange" routes?
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User currently offlineFlycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

Air Wales chop and change routes all the time, don't expect these to last too long.

User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

I don't know, but, maybe they are going to pull the CWL-DUB route now that Aer Arann is going on there, they seem to be afraid of competition, when they where suppose to be starting routes out of Galway and then was it Aer Arann? or Euromanx? Announced similar routes (which still haven't happened for Euromanx btw) they subsequently pulled the route before it even had it's first flight.

I'm almost sure it was Aer Arann.



John Hancock
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24914 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

They've screwed up bigtime on their best route: CWL-NCL
Timings used to be perfect for businessmen with a really useful twice daily schedule, but now the timings are awful and the flights now have an ABZ extension which is doing very poorly. Many business pax now use easyJet NCL-BRS



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3902 times:

What about a new BRU service? Any news on timetables for that route?

User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

Air Wales have just recieved a grant from the Welsh Assembly Government. It is part of a Route Development Fund that is for any airline wishing to operate out of Wales. Of course the major international airport in Wales is Cardiff, CWL.

The CWL-NCL route is having average passenger numbers, however as GKirk pointed out there is little demand for the NCL-ABZ sector. This sector to ABZ messes up the flight times and has resulted in reduced numbers on the CWL-NCL route.

As for CWL-DUB, there has been competition from FR for a number of years. Both airlines have managed to co-exist on the route, only time will tell if Aer Arran will affect Air Wales and FR.

CWL-BHD will now be operated by Air Wales and RE, just doesn't make sense, especially with BMIbaby offering a service to BFS from CWL.

Air Wales will still operate some routes for BMIbaby, these are; ORK and JER. It looks as if BMIbaby will operate the CDG service from CWL instead of Air Wales. However, this is not 100% certain at the moment.

Regards,
Chris


User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Quoting Christa (Reply 5):
As for CWL-DUB, there has been competition from FR for a number of years. Both airlines have managed to co-exist on the route, only time will tell if Aer Arran will affect Air Wales and FR.

I forgot about FR, good point.

What about the 2 ATR 72's they where suppose to be ordering? Have these completely disappeared?



John Hancock
User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1982 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3843 times:

Quoting DptMAN (Thread starter):
Air Wales is to stop serving bmiBay routes due to a new aircraft placement next year for routes to BFS and GLA not PIK.

:S Are you saying Air Wales will follow WW to GLA?

Gaz



Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11617 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

Quoting DptMAN (Thread starter):
When exactly are the new services from Cardiff to Brussels and Belfast City, and also Cork to Newquay and Exeter.

The new services into Exeter from Cork are due to start on the 4th January. This formerly was the service from Cork to Plymouth which has been transferred to Exeter due yet again to the runway at Plymouth being 'too short' to take off from with a full load and therefore not profitable. The Dublin to Plymouth service has been dropped completely and they also announced a few days later that CWL-PLH was also going to be dropped. I did hear that it might be continuing, but it looks like on the 26th March there will no longer be any Air Wales routes to Plymouth.

Dan



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineDrakey From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

So have they ditched Swansea for good? I seem to remember a Dublin - Swansea service last summer.

User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

Quoting Smokeyrosco (Reply 6):
What about the 2 ATR 72's they where suppose to be ordering? Have these completely disappeared?

In the summer... probably 2x ATR72's and I have also heard of leasing A319's for sun routes to Europe in the Spring/Summer.

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 7):
:S Are you saying Air Wales will follow WW to GLA?

BMIbaby have stopped all co-operation with Air Wales on the PIK and BFS routes. BMIbaby will operate the 737 to BFS and move the Glasgow service from PIK to GLA from March 2006.

Quoting Drakey (Reply 9):
So have they ditched Swansea for good? I seem to remember a Dublin - Swansea service last summer.

They operated SWS-CWL-LCY last year. The loads were really good, however SWS did not have the appropriate facilities for bad weather etc and thus resulted in delays. The Air Wales team decided that many of the pax were oddly coming from the SWS sector so saw that the CWL-LCY sector was not worth keeping. In my opinion it was the wrong thing to do. Maybe VLM will look at operating a LCY-CWL service or maybe Air Wales will once again have a look at a service to London.

There are also looks as if there will be a South Wales & North Wales air link launching from next year, possibly either a 2x daily or 1x daily service connecting Cardiff and Valley.

Regards,
Chris


User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3697 times:

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 7):
:S Are you saying Air Wales will follow WW to GLA?

Gaz

No, Air Wales served PIK (Glasgow Prestiwick) on behalf of bmiBbay although now bmiBbay are launching services from CWL - GLA and not PIK.


User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3513 times:

Ok, some interesting news on the subject of Air Wales:-

New Routes
CWL-BVA (Paris Beauvais )
CWL-BRU
CWL-BHD
CWL-RNS
MAN-RNS
JER-RNS
WAT-RNS

Intersting to say the least, eh?

Also, FR to increase CWL-DUB frequency to 11x weekly!

Regards,
Chris


User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3475 times:

Wow, interesting route concept. Are these real?

User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Quoting DptMAN (Reply 13):
Wow, interesting route concept. Are these real?

Well, they are all bookable on the Air Wales website. I believe that PLH-MAN is also a route that is bookable.

The CWL-BVA is quite an odd one, however the CWL-CDG service will still be operated by Air Wales for BMIbaby.. I think they must be getting some new aircraft for these new routes.

Regards,
Chris


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24914 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

CWL-DUB Ryanair only 10 weekly


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 15):
CWL-DUB Ryanair only 10 weekly

Sorry, my error.. it is 10x weekly, wasn't thinking!

Still, there was a rumor going around that FR had fallen out with CWL management, obviously not as they are increasing frequency on the DUB route.

Regards,
Chris


User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

Quoting Christa (Reply 12):
WAT-RNS

haha, Aer Arann won't like that.



John Hancock
User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3372 times:

Quoting Christa (Reply 16):
Still, there was a rumor going around that FR had fallen out with CWL management, obviously not as they are increasing frequency on the DUB route.

I'm guessing the increase is directly in correlation with the DUB-BRS route being cut from 16x weekly, to just 6x weekly, with no saturday service. I flew this route return on sunday (BRS-DUB), returning on monday, and both flights had about 100 people onboard. Ideal with the B737-200, but i guess less is needed with the B737-800


User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

Looks like CWL - BRU & CWL-BHD will be double daily flights. Schedules are as follows:

CWL-BRU
6G750 Dept 7.00 Arrive 8.30
6G752 Dept 18.50 Arrive 20.20

BRU-CWL
6G751 Dept 9.00 Arrive 10.30
6G753 Dept 20.50 Arrive 22.20

CWL-BHD
6G771 Dept 7.00 Arrive 8.10
6G777 Dept 18.00 Arrive 19.10

BHD-CWL
6G772 Dept 8.40 Arrive 9.50
6G778 Dept 19.40 Arrive 20.50

dptMAN


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7091 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

Quoting DptMAN (Reply 13):
Wow, interesting route concept

Air Wales and Bmi have mereged their route development division.



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Looks like CWL-BVA has been dropped from the 6G Website.
dptMAN


User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 20):

Air Wales and Bmi have mereged their route development division.

So true.. Big grin! LOL!

Quoting DptMAN (Reply 21):
Looks like CWL-BVA has been dropped from the 6G Website.

Oh, what a surprise...!

Regards,
Chris


User currently offlineDptMAN From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

Looks like 6G has re-added their new BVA service back onto their website. What is going on at Air Wales??

User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

Quoting DptMAN (Reply 23):
What is going on at Air Wales??

I've been asking myself that for the last couple of years



John Hancock
25 Post contains images PlymSpotter : In the last few days they have also re-added the PLH-CWL service to their website that was due to finish at the end of March. Dan
26 Christa : Who knows? The airline has the capability to grow, however it must first sustain it's routes that have worked for them and increase frequency on them
27 Smokeyrosco : I love Air Wales, most of the hosties... well in my terms, they are hot AND that accent, wow. But besides that, they have better (and working) aircraf
28 Post contains images Yago : I hope they keep flying to CDG as they've got the most charming lady captain I've seen in all my years working as a red cap
29 Trintocan : Air Wales - they have a habit of playing musical chairs with their routes. I hope that these new routes work for them though. I am surprised to see th
30 Vfw614 : Have the Rennes services and the new BVA route been announced officially in the meantime ? They are all bookable on the website.
31 EGTESkyGod : Even more commercial traffic at Exeter.... More orbits for me in the downwind leg then...... Class D Airspace, here we come! Really? Thats news to me.
32 BestWestern : I tried to book PLH DUB last weekend... but alas... no longer exists.... Flybe got my business. I wouldnt trust Air Wales with my business.
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