Knope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3080 posts, RR: 31 Posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3915 times:
Dulles-Boston, planned to begin early next year, no longer appears to be for sale on the AirTran website. That would appear to mean that AirTran is backing off in the face of new competition. After AirTran announced IAD-BOS, JetBlue revealed they were starting IAD-BOS weeks sooner and with more flights. Then United said they were upping IAD-BOS to hourly. And finally, Independence is still not dead.
Assuming this isn't just a glitch, it looks like AirTran doesn't think this is the place to jump in anymore. Speculation has had AirTran moving in on Dulles when Indy dies. However if they don't get a foothold in a key market like IAD-BOS, one wonders just how much headway they can make at Dulles.
JetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3053 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3823 times:
Interesting indeed. However, the fact of the matter is that B6 is starting 6 flights on the route, UA is adding 5, and FlyI won't be dead (until March, at least). I think FL was really banking on FlyI's demise and they had no clue that B6 would react the way that they did. But hey, that's the nature of the game. Good for FL in recognizing a money-loser and pulling out.
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RDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1591 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3686 times:
I would say UA is the big winner in this round. FL probably wasn't planning for the response from both UA and B6. Add DH still being in the market, and I think FL made the right move. UA's IAD-BOS flights run at a high load factor, but most of the traffic is low revenue connecting traffic. However, UA does get a great deal of Int'l feed from BOS.
For the most part, IAD is extremely over-capacitized right now. When DH closes up shop it will help some, but IMO IAD is not the best DC metro airport (I'd put it behind both BWI and DCA) revenue-wise to be adding service to right now.
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BH From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 525 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3685 times:
From what I've read they are making this choice on the increace in capacity being added by other airlines. They said that going into a market where 2 airlines are hurting and another that is healthy would turn in to a big fare war where everyone would end up losing. Adding that they would much rather allocate that money to other markets that have more potential. (MDW,IND. and so on.) To me it sounds like they are trying to make a decsion from a business stand point instead of acting like airlines have been acting for along time by fighting like cats and dogs. (Thats what they said too)
Quickmover From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 2508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3357 times:
Not sure about that.
From what I've read, ATA was giving up all but one gate. WN takes 4, the city takes back 3, ATA keeps 1. The city keeps one of their gates open for other airlines, but ATA could use it part time if needed. I'm just guessing, but I'd bet FL takes 2 of what are now city gates.
Also read today that FL already has a 3rd daily to MCO and a 2nd SRQ from MDW scheduled for May.