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AirTran Pulling IAD-BOS Before It Starts?  
User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2999 posts, RR: 31
Posted (9 years 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

Dulles-Boston, planned to begin early next year, no longer appears to be for sale on the AirTran website. That would appear to mean that AirTran is backing off in the face of new competition. After AirTran announced IAD-BOS, JetBlue revealed they were starting IAD-BOS weeks sooner and with more flights. Then United said they were upping IAD-BOS to hourly. And finally, Independence is still not dead.

Assuming this isn't just a glitch, it looks like AirTran doesn't think this is the place to jump in anymore. Speculation has had AirTran moving in on Dulles when Indy dies. However if they don't get a foothold in a key market like IAD-BOS, one wonders just how much headway they can make at Dulles.

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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3018 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

Interesting indeed. However, the fact of the matter is that B6 is starting 6 flights on the route, UA is adding 5, and FlyI won't be dead (until March, at least). I think FL was really banking on FlyI's demise and they had no clue that B6 would react the way that they did. But hey, that's the nature of the game. Good for FL in recognizing a money-loser and pulling out.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

I wonder if they will announce a new route soon with this route bein' pulled. Anyone have any guesses as to what if they will or not?

User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4589 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

When does FL get their next 737 delivery?


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1545 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

I would say UA is the big winner in this round. FL probably wasn't planning for the response from both UA and B6. Add DH still being in the market, and I think FL made the right move. UA's IAD-BOS flights run at a high load factor, but most of the traffic is low revenue connecting traffic. However, UA does get a great deal of Int'l feed from BOS.

For the most part, IAD is extremely over-capacitized right now. When DH closes up shop it will help some, but IMO IAD is not the best DC metro airport (I'd put it behind both BWI and DCA) revenue-wise to be adding service to right now.



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User currently offlineBH From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 525 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3618 times:

From what I've read they are making this choice on the increace in capacity being added by other airlines. They said that going into a market where 2 airlines are hurting and another that is healthy would turn in to a big fare war where everyone would end up losing. Adding that they would much rather allocate that money to other markets that have more potential. (MDW,IND. and so on.) To me it sounds like they are trying to make a decsion from a business stand point instead of acting like airlines have been acting for along time by fighting like cats and dogs. (Thats what they said too)

User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

Nothing concrete, but there is chatter on the Marketwatch board about taking a couple more MDW gates. Perhaps that's where FL is opting to focus.

User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

Quickmover - is it true FL is moving to the A Concourse? I would think they would be well off at the end of the B Concourse as opposed to moving....Or is WN trying to take the whole B Concourse?

User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

flyinryan99,

Not sure about that.
From what I've read, ATA was giving up all but one gate. WN takes 4, the city takes back 3, ATA keeps 1. The city keeps one of their gates open for other airlines, but ATA could use it part time if needed. I'm just guessing, but I'd bet FL takes 2 of what are now city gates.

Also read today that FL already has a 3rd daily to MCO and a 2nd SRQ from MDW scheduled for May.


User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3275 times:

Quick - Yep they sure did....noticed they added a flight to MSP also...I'll post the whole schedule here in a few minutes when I get it all into a file.

User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3264 times:
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When does FL get their next 737 delivery?

Looks like later this month

33922 1845 YM206 737-7BD AirTran N281AT


User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3235 times:

I just pulled up their schedules for May 19th. This is assuming they don't add any new destinations. I am guessing they may add 1 or 2, but who knows..looks pretty impressive so far.

Departing Chicago-MDW
Depart City
5:40 AM ATL
7:45 AM MCO
8:30 AM ATL
8:35 AM BOS
9:10 AM MSP
9:30 AM ATL
10:20 AM SRQ
10:41 AM ATL
12:27 PM ATL
1:10 PM BOS
1:42 PM MCO
2:30 PM MSP
2:42 PM SRQ
3:27 PM ATL
4:39 PM ATL
4:45 PM MSP
5:31 PM ATL
5:40 PM MSP
6:25 PM MCO
6:50 PM BOS
7:31 PM ATL
7:59 PM MSP
8:41 PM ATL

Arriving Chicago-MDW
Arrive City
7:55 AM ATL
8:00 AM MSP
8:35 AM BOS
8:55 AM ATL
9:45 AM MCO
10:06 AM ATL
11:52 AM ATL
12:35 PM MSP
1:02 PM SRQ
1:55 PM BOS
2:02 PM MCO
2:30 PM MSP
2:52 PM ATL
3:29 PM MCO
4:10 PM ATL
4:51 PM ATL
5:50 PM SRQ
6:15 PM MSP
6:55 PM ATL
7:24 PM BOS
8:06 PM ATL
9:39 PM MSP
11:55 PM ATL


User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 999 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3066 times:

SRQ - MDW goes 2x a day on Feb 15th.


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User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Here's more info: MDW to DFW and EWR:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051221/nyw022.html?.v=39



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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

Was MDW-EWR an old ATA route?

thanks


User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 4):
IAD is not the best DC metro airport (I'd put it behind both BWI and DCA)

You must be kidding me. IAD is the best airport to fly from DC area.

Rafal


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

Yes, ATA did fly MDW-EWR

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