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Boeing And Emirates Correspond About 747X/400X  
User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 19
Posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2492 times:

DUBAI, July 2 (Reuters) - Emirates, the first airline to order Airbus Industrie's A3XX superjumbo, has asked Boeing Co for details on the stretched version of its 747 jumbo jet, a Boeing official was quoted on Sunday as saying.
Paul Dubeck, sales director of Boeing's international sales, made his comments in an interview with al-Bayan newspaper of the United Arab Emirates.

"In fact, we received a request from Emirates to know some technical details of the jumbo jet," he said.

He said the request by the Dubai-government owned airline was made after it announced its interest in buying five A3XX aircraft from Airbus, with an option for five more. Delivery of the aircraft would begin in 2006 and 2007.

"Emirates is one of our best customers and we respect its decisions...It is up to Emirates to choose between the Airbus or the Boeing super jumbo...," Dubeck said.

Emirates had said it was considering replacing its Boeing 777-200s with a new version, but did not give details.


Asked about Dubeck's comments, Emirates' Head of Corporate Communications Mike Simon told Reuters: "We are committed to the Airbus A3XX as we have already announced. With reference to Boeing's mega jets, we simply like to know what is going on in the industry."

Boeing said on Thursday it had briefed more than 30 airline customers on its outlines for the 747X, Boeing's proposal to counter Airbus's planned A3XX.

Emirates last month welcomed a decision by partners in Airbus to give the European consortium the go-ahead to offer its double-decker 555-seat aircraft to airlines.

The A3XX, scheduled to be formally launched by the end of the year once Airbus has signed firm contracts, is designed to end arch-rival Boeing's monopoly of the large aircraft market.

Boeing officials had said Boeing's plans for the stretched version of the 420-seat 747-400 had not been brought forward by Airbus's aggressive marketing of its A3XX. They said Boeing would launch its 500-seat 747X whenever the market demands and not merely to rival the A3XX.

Dubeck told al-Bayan the cost of developing the 747X "would be around $5 billion and we expect it to be ready for delivery in 2005, which is one year before the A3XX...."

"We have conducted a market study and found very weak demand for this kind of plane, but since Boeing aims to meet the demands of all its customers it took the decision to develop the 747X. We expect demand for this (plane) to be limited," he said.

Boeing and Airbus are at odds over the need for a superjumbo. Boeing sees demand for 360 planes with more than 400 seats in the next 20 years, while Airbus forecasts 1,200 such planes.

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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4555 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

Very intersting to say the least. Emirates is not afraid of opperating competing airframes. 777-200 and 777-300 along with A310s and A330s. Lets not forget the A340NGs on order either.

"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

CX, when will you realize it:

B777s and A330s are no competitors. The B772 is just larger than the A332, not to speak about the B773. Just look at the number of seats!
Or would you say that United, American and Delta also fly competing aircraft with their B772s and B763s?

And EK's A310 will be replaced by the A332 completely. So they will have a fleet of A332s, B772s and B773s. Where are competitors here?
The A340NG doesn't seem secure at the moment, despite their order. Maybe they switch to the B777X.
And they won't fly two different kinds of a super jumbo, you can be sure.


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8361 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (15 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 2324 times:

Well, Emirates Airways needs all the high-capacity airplanes it can get. I've heard that many of their flights are averaging around 90% or more full. Small wonder why they're the first airline with serious interest in the A350....

Given that Emirates is famous for its in-flight service, small wonder, too.

User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4555 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (15 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

You are correct Udo in the fact that the A330 does not have the same capacity as the 777 BUT the A330/340 are sold as Airbus competitors to Boeing's 777 line. So, if the A330 isn't a competitor we shouldn't count its order totals + the A340s against the 777s. Emirates though operates both Boeing and Airbus aircraft and do not seem to have problems doing so.

"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
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