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Smallest Aircraft That Can Fly YYZ-LHR  
User currently offlineAirliners rule From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (15 years 11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

What is the smallest aircraft that could fly this route? Any help would be great.

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User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2461 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (15 years 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3715 times:

If you're thinking passenger aircraft in airline service - that would probably be the 757-200ER. Canada 3000 has several of those, and I'm sure that it's done charters on the YYZ-LHR route before. The 757-200ER has ETOPS clearance to do transatlantic routes, hence the -ER (Extended Range). Air Transat does have 757s, too, but I don't know if those have the same ETOPS clearance that C3's 757s have. Besides, Air Transat's been using L1011s on transatlanic flights.

User currently offlineJet Setter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

The 737-700 and possibly the A319 should also be able to do it carrying a normal load of passengers, after all Swiss World was to fly GVA-EWR with the 737-700 before they folded and the aircraft are ETOPS compliant.

User currently offlineHmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (15 years 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

Virtually any aircraft can fly from one spot on the globe to another. Your question must be qualified with respect to ETOPS, non-stop service, passenger service, or some other qualification of the Federal Aviation Regulations.
E.g. a 727 is smaller than a 757, but 727s have operated Part 135 (commercial passenger)operations across the Atlantic. But they have three engines. And it was not non-stop. A320s can cross the Atlantic too but usually only as a non-passenger ferry flight. A little Cessna can also go across the Atlantic but not as a passenger flight nor obviously non-stop.


P.S. ER does not mean that a plane is certified for ETOPS across the Atlantic. It merely means that it is a longer-range version of a previous model.

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User currently offlineC-GRYK From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 751 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (15 years 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

The smallest plane to fly Toronto Pearson to London HEATHROW (not Gatwick guys) is Air Canada's 767-200ER's and possibly their -200 non-ER's but those I think are only used on inter North American flights. Toronto to Gatwick is definetely the 757-200 (there is NO ER version of the 757, but there are some non ETOPS ones) I flew C-GRYK from YYZ-LGW and back last year and most definetely Canada 3000 used to do that route in the early 1990's with their 757's... the 737-700 and 800 could do it no question and so can the A319 (Air Canada was talking about YHZ-MAN with those) but the A320 is probably out of the question. It's really wierd to think of 737's crossing the Atlantic though no matter what their range.


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User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (15 years 11 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3669 times:

Air Transat operate B757s from YYZ to Edinburgh and Aberdeen (and to a few places in England) and Canada 3000 do likewise to Glasgow.

Cant think that the A319 would ever get ETOPS clearance to operate regular transatlantic schedules though.

User currently offlineHappy777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (15 years 11 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3659 times:

it is either the A-320,737-700 or 800, but the average passenger probably won't feel comfortable flying a 737 acrosse the atlantic though and the loads are too demanding so thats why occasionally the 757 is operated trans atlantic but usually it is the 767 or bigger.

User currently offlineAC_A340 From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 2251 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (15 years 11 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

Canadair Global Express. It can do it with a full load of passengers and cargo, with fuel to spare! 

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