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User currently offlinePanther From Bahamas, joined Jun 2000, 223 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14061 times:

I been reading on other websites (www.airlinepilotcental.com) that JB is modifying the A322 winglets to bigger ones, maybe like EMB190 style.

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User currently offlineIcebird757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13942 times:

We are suppose to have 2 A320s equipped with them. Once a/c will have Airbus winglets and the other a/c will have winglets from another company we are working with. If it works out with bigger winglets, the whole fleet will be retrofitted.


LGB....where you can watch the grass grow because the traffic is so slow.
User currently offlineBomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13891 times:

What would these look like?

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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13861 times:

Quoting Bomber996 (Reply 2):
What would these look like?

Who wants to photoshop some AVP winglets onto an A320?


User currently offlineIcebird757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 662 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13847 times:

Take the blended winglets from the 737 and stick them on the A320.


LGB....where you can watch the grass grow because the traffic is so slow.
User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2980 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13760 times:

What impact does this make on flying? Will it help with longer range through fuel efficiency? I'm not great with airplane builds and all the mechanical info so any input would be appreciated.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13739 times:

Quoting Bomber996 (Reply 2):
What would these look like?

Probably ugly...


User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13693 times:

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 6):
Probably ugly...

That's a pretty Good guess.... Wink

[Edited 2005-12-26 05:38:59]

User currently offlineIAH744 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13681 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 3):
Who wants to photoshop some AVP winglets onto an A320?

couldnt find one, but i dont think it would look very good...

IMO they should buy a few of these and go international



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13663 times:

Quoting IAH744 (Reply 8):

IMO they should buy a few of these and go international

What you have just shown me is a really crappy 777 mod. Good job  Wink


User currently offlineIah744 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13613 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 9):
What you have just shown me is a really crappy 777 mod. Good job

i didnt make it...



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13602 times:

Quoting Iah744 (Reply 10):
i didnt make it...

I didn't say you made it, I said you showed it to me  Wink


User currently offlineWerdywerd From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 571 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13572 times:

Will probably look something like this:

CLICK ON PHOTO TO ENLARGE


I used 737 Winglets. Quick Photoshop, nothing special.

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User currently offlineJsposaune From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 291 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13557 times:

I dunno...I kind of like it!


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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13541 times:

Actually I think from that angle it makes the A320 look like a very large Embraer 190.

User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13528 times:

I thought that was an E175 before I enlarged it...

User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2980 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13528 times:

Yes, it definitely looks like an oversized E190. lol how funny

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User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13500 times:

What really amuses me is that in a prior thread the Airbus fanboys were pointing out how the fact that the winglets had to be added to the 737NG's and the A320's already come with them was evidence of the Airbuses better design.

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13447 times:

http://rockymountainavphotos.com/Eric/basic_images/B6AVPwinglets.jpg

With Aviation Partners Boeing winglets.


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13426 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 14):
Actually I think from that angle it makes the A320 look like a very large Embraer 190.

I agree  Smile



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User currently offlineBigdrewfl From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13355 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 5):
What impact does this make on flying? Will it help with longer range through fuel efficiency? I'm not great with airplane builds and all the mechanical info so any input would be appreciated.

JetBluefan1

In the last pocket section we had Dave spoke about this, If effective it would give the A320 a bigger range. So it would eliminate the need for fuel stops or Capping flight for instance BUR. He also said it would save lots of money on fuel.


User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13303 times:

yes it does look like a bigger version of E190

User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13263 times:

Looks like crap....lol

User currently offlineGARPD From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2005, 2649 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13241 times:

Anyone thinking that AVP and Boeing are on the right track with their blended winglets?

I mean, the wingfences on the A320 are essentialy now a 20 year old design.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13235 times:

Looks good.What has the Studes prove.How Benificial.Whats Airbus's view.
regds
MEL



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25 DLKAPA : 1- Studies haven't started 2- Don't know yet 3- See #2
26 Bigdrewfl : It was actually an independent company that brought this whole idea up, Jetblue spoke with airbus and the results show that it might very well be wor
27 GQfluffy : Maybe more like a 767...but who's paying attention to the engines...
28 Post contains images TheSonntag : I guess it will be overweight, will never fly, will be too expensive, and there won't be a market for it
29 Mir : It does look very much like an oversized E-Jet, which I think is a shame, because the 320 had a very nice distinctive shape, but if it saves money, I
30 Voodoo : APFPilot1985 wrote: What really amuses me is that in a prior thread the Airbus fanboys were pointing out how the fact that the winglets had to be adde
31 Francoflier : I find it ugly, but fortunately airlines CEOs don't base their judgement on that criteria...
32 Post contains images Columba : I think it gives the A320 an interesting look, I always thought that the A320 is a bit boring to watch. So congratulations to Jetblue that they modern
33 Tjwgrr : Looks like an E190 on steroids!
34 ChiGB1973 : Landing in a crosswind will be a little more difficult. M
35 FLY764 : I think it looks nice, maybe this will help in avoiding fuel stops during the winter months : )
36 Kaneporta1 : I can confirm that Airbus is indeed working on blended winglets for the A320 after Jetblue's request. The height of the winglets will be 6'6. Flight t
37 Post contains images MidnightMike : Will be interesting to hear of the results, I know somebody in the Jetblue Maintainence Department, going to see if he has information that he would
38 DLKAPA : I noticed that too, but to me it even looks like the engines were poorly photoshopped onto the frame.
39 Post contains links JetMARC : I haven't heard about any of this at work! But I heard that jetBlue had looked at bigger winglets in the past, however, to compensate for the increase
40 Post contains images Flyorski : That would be nice............ This could be the new 320 Craze. IF they work B6 will have an advantage. Less fuel always saves money and looks always
41 Post contains images Lightsaber : Wow. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if this would ever happen. I've been for suggesting these winglets before. While the A320 is a great plane,
42 Post contains links and images IAH744 : Modified Airliner Photos:Design © Ryan PowersTemplate © Jason Taperell Modified Airliner Photos:Design © R P AbrahamTemplate © R P Abraham im stil
43 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I think they'll go with the A330's and A350's first...then when they really need to pack 'em in, they will go with the A380-800 and A380-900...
44 Notbluejet : All these winglets have to do is guarantee BOS-LGB service with no fuel stops.... and i would say they are a success. They are not looking to go anywe
45 Post contains images AirbusA346 : I really hate them Why do they need to wreck a good design any way. Just my Tom.
46 BritPilot777 : I personally think it looks pretty good, makes the Airbus look even nicer! Bp777
47 AkjetBlue : Wingfences from what I've been told were actually mainly designed to reduce vibrations during flight. From the horses mouth B6 asked both Boeing and
48 MiCorazonAzul : It really isn't ALL about how it looks guys, although I think they look awesome. If the winglets provide some sort of benefit for our A320's then I am
49 Post contains images Alitalia744 : Maybe JetBlue nonstops can now go nonstop
50 797 : I think they'd look amazing! I'm looking forward on seeing what JetBlue is about to bring us! pretty exciting! Cheers!
51 Gigneil : By Boeing, I assume that means Hawker de Havilland, or "Boeing Australia". They're also making the A380 wingtip fences. I find it more likely that th
52 Post contains images Mariner : Or they could just have bought the A319 - which can do transcon non-stops. cheers mariner
53 AkjetBlue : Actually no it was Mike Barger who stated during a TLC visit that they asked Airbus for winglets and they responded back with, (and in a french accen
54 Gigneil : I think the AWIATOR technology applied to winglets for the A320 would be a fantastic idea, and I hope they do it. It could give the 320 added competit
55 Post contains images Lightsaber : True. But the A320 does it with a slightly lower CASM. With winglets, the A320 will be able to do BUR-JFK and vis a vis without stops year round. I'l
56 Post contains images HAWK21M : Interesting to await the Results.Maybe the Finding might decide the Future winglets of all A320s regds MEL
57 797 : Never thought about that! But yes, that would get the A320 to compete with the 737NGs. If it works, we might see many carriers like Virgin America an
58 A342 : The A340 now looks like a Il-96 !
59 Post contains images Revelation : Ah, more subsidies! That explains it!
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