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Will Virgin America Ever Fly?  
User currently offlinePassBureauMgr From United States of America, joined May 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6341 times:

Will V-A ever really fly?

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User currently offlineMarkabcan From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6333 times:

Yes, I think they will fly. I don't know if it will be positive for the US airline industry as a whole though.

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6313 times:

I think the question now is how long, not if they they will.

Harry



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User currently offlinePassBureauMgr From United States of America, joined May 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6286 times:

OK, so whats going on with them. Weren't they supposed to be flying by now. Isn't that what they said in the summer of 2004 when they announced it would be forming?

User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5945 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6268 times:
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I had heard from earlier posts that V-A is supposed to start flying mid-2006. They just received their financing and just applied for their necessary certificates.

I think we can see Virgin America flying to all three Bay Area airports within a year or two after inaugural flights. V-A could give B6 a run for their money.


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6221 times:

I hope so  Smile

There first A320 was spotted in TLS, but without full Virgin America colours  Smile

Maybe their waiting for the launch to reveal the colours  Smile

There is a post here, started by me:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2499801

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineSunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6208 times:

So nice of you to ask. Yes, Virgin America should be carrying passengers about June 06. I start working for them officially on Jan 5th.

Virgin America has made all neccessary applications for certification to be a regular scheduled US Airline. The prosecution of the application has begun, with officials being interview by the DOT on or about January 18th.


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6165 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 2):
I think the question now is how long, not if they they will.

And in your professional opinion, why do you think so?



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13699 posts, RR: 61
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6127 times:
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Quoting SunValley (Reply 6):
I start working for them officially on Jan 5th.

Congratulations on the new job! What will you be doing - and do you have any airline experience prior to them?



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6110 times:

They've secured financing. They have A320's on the way. They've hired plenty of people.


Yes....I think it's safe to say they will fly. What's wrong with taking your time starting up?


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6098 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 7):

And in your professional opinion, why do you think so?

Because, especially with Virgin's backing, they seem to have enough resources to get up into the air, and their first plane is already taxiing around in France, but only time will tell whether they can make it in the US market.

Harry



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User currently offlineIAH744 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6086 times:

what airports, other than sfo, will they fly to?


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User currently offlineSunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6056 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8):
Congratulations on the new job! What will you be doing - and do you have any airline experience prior to them?

I am starting as a Market Planner for Virgin America. I have a degree in Business Admin-Traffic & Transportation, and In International Studies, as well as completing a number of IATA courses in Market Planning.
I have worked for Delta and Alaska Airlines in the Revenue Management Departments.


User currently offlinePassBureauMgr From United States of America, joined May 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6020 times:

OK SunValley,
When are they supposed to take to the skies?
What cities will V-A serve at first?
Will V-A have first class or business class?
Will they have IFE?
What all can you tell us?


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13699 posts, RR: 61
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6014 times:
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Quoting SunValley (Reply 12):
completing a number of IATA courses in Market Planning

Where or how did you take advantage of that? I've often wondered how it's done.



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User currently offlineFlyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 996 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6000 times:

Quoting SunValley (Reply 12):
I have a degree in Business Admin-Traffic & Transportation, and In International Studies, as well as completing a number of IATA courses in Market Planning.

Where did you complete this? I am very curious about how to start, and where to do it.



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User currently offlineSunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5964 times:

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 15):
Where did you complete this? I am very curious about how to start, and where to do it.

I completed my degree work at Arizona State University, for both the Business Admin & International Studies. There are a nubmer of universities around the world who offer the Traffic & Transportation Specialization. As to the IATA classes, that is a lifetime endeavor, as they continually add more to their roster each year. I started them while working for Alaska Airlines, and after having left AS, I continued with them on my own (they are very pricey). They are probably some of the best training and informational classes around. You can access their offerings by going to iata.org


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13699 posts, RR: 61
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5949 times:
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Quoting SunValley (Reply 16):
I started them while working for Alaska Airlines, and after having left AS, I continued with them on my own (they are very pricey).

Just out of curiosity, what made you leave AS? Was working for Don and Maryanne that bad?  Wink



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User currently offlineSunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5941 times:

Quoting PassBureauMgr (Reply 13):
OK SunValley,
When are they supposed to take to the skies?
What cities will V-A serve at first?
Will V-A have first class or business class?
Will they have IFE?
What all can you tell us?

While I would love to be able to tell you all this, there is much of it at this time that is proprietary information.

I can tell you the product offerings will be like no other in the domestic skies today. The innovative new approach that is being devloped will be unique and I'm sure will be well received in todays marketplace.


User currently offlineSunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5912 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 17):
Just out of curiosity, what made you leave AS? Was working for Don and Maryanne that bad?

Leaving Alaska Airlines was my choice. NO they & their people are not hard to work for and they are a delightful group of people to be around. I left Alaska to be able to devote more time to furthering my education so as to be considered for a position as I have now at Virgin.
I cannot tell you much more than that, as with any company there are non-disclosure agreements in place.
My feeling about Alaska Airlines is that it will always be a "boutique airline" unless another company acquires them (which seems very doubtful)


User currently offlinePHXinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5812 times:

Quoting SunValley (Reply 6):
So nice of you to ask. Yes, Virgin America should be carrying passengers about June 06. I start working for them officially on Jan 5th.

Wow, that's pretty presumptuous considering DOT just recently received their application.



Keepin' it real.
User currently offlineAA717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5735 times:

PHX--The application process is not a "gee I hope this works" type of thing. You hire people who make sure you have the "t's" crossed and "i's" dotted prior to submitting the application.

The FAA works with you on the submission, too.

This is big-time stuff--not Joe Schmoe's Single-engine 135 charter outfit. They have a plan.TC



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User currently offlineBOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5690 times:

Hey sunvalley, put in the good word for me, I'll be looking for a job next december. Big grin  crossfingers 


Wow, I have no shame.  footinmouth 


User currently offlineAirbrasil From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5669 times:

SunValley,

Please contact me! I need your feedback on IATA!

Airbrasil


User currently offlineTom12 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 1078 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5662 times:

Will Virgin America be a low cost carrier?? I think it will defnetly fly, just not sure when


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25 Airbrasil : Hello my friends, I just want to say taht I got hired with Alaska Airlines. Left Frontier after 4 years working in several stations such as LAX, PDX,
26 KabAir : SunValley, Congrats on the job!! Hopefully they've hired a bunch of people like yourself and if so I'm sure they'll be very successful! Can't wait to
27 SunValley : Will be glad to as I can.
28 SunValley : PHX, The work to make applicaiton for the certificate has actually been ongoing for aproximately 20 months. In that time, a number of things have hap
29 Post contains images Mke717spotter : " target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/discussions...99801 that shot was taken a couple of weeks ago, do you think that maybe this aircraft has been
30 Post contains images EA CO AS : Congratulations! Welcome to the family.
31 Dfwlandingpath : On Bloomberg last night there was an interview with Richard Branson. He said that Virgin America will start flying mid to late 2006. dfwlandingpath
32 CIDflyer : I think Virgin America could possibly work..It does have a strong name brand recognition (Think Virgin Atlantic Airways, Virgin Records and the Virgin
33 SunValley : You are right, that is the first Virgin Aircraft, and will not represent the Virgin America livery until in late January - Early February.
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