British Airways flight 116, a 747-400, has experienced a fire in engine number 2 after takeoff from runway 31L at approximately 2325 lcl. The flight landed safely on runway 31L some 20 minutes later and was inspected by fire services on taxiway papa.
It is has taxiied back to T7 to offload passengers.
One fire bottle was fired and the immediate inspection revealed that "the core of the engine is gone".
Stay tuned to www.NYCAviation.com and the aforementioned thread for the latest details and an eyewittness account!
Pilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2537 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 20095 times:
in case anyone asks for real why they didnt continue to england on 3...the answer is, a fire is too heavy a burden on any pilots mind for 6 hours across the atlantic, as well as the unknown damage it may have had on any components behind the wing
The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
Hope that works. Thats only NY ARR/DEP, doesnt have the moment when it happened but it's got the aircraft decending and orbiting over the airport and the decent for ILS 31L. Can't seem to get the Twr archive off liveatc.net.
Not quite 2 people on boards for this flight, 302 this time. They had 285 Tonnes of fuel on board. Dont know in pounds, you do the math!!!
BA0284 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19915 times:
Hold on...Hold on, i've found the JFK tower feed!!! It actually took off earlier than I imagined, about 23:24 ish, so i was looking at the wrong feed! If you go to about 24:00 minutes, the JFK tower controller first reports the fire and the other aircraft 'comment' on it later on. You can first hear the BA flight at about 20:35 mintutes (ish), and its cleared to take off at 23:00 minutes.
7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 19563 times:
Quote: * OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO * BA 116 -1 TH 29DEC
CITY INFO HOUR (LOCAL
JFK ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE 2250
LEFT THE GATE 2257
TOOK OFF 2323
DELAY LATE INCOMING AIRCRAFT
AIRCRAFT LANDED 2341
NEXT INFO WILL BE AT 0500
DIV LHR JFK
PASSENGERS ON BOARD (295)
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 1016 LHR
ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL 2350 JFK
Not due to arrive into LHR till 2350 this evening now!
Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
I was the eyewitness to the event, my full account is here http://nycaviation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1398
but I can tell you that even I had to do a double take with all the flames and spark contrails coming from that engine. It was not until well after the turn over Breezy Point, Rockaways that the fire was put out. It definitely stopped traffic and people got out of there cars because to the casual person, it looked more than a simple engine fire.
Nycfly75 From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 750 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 16913 times:
Quoting RJpieces (Reply 19): How is this affecting BA's schedule? I assumed they sent these stranded pax to LHR a few hours later on the 747 that usually overnights and operates the morning departure to LHR? Or perhaps not?
According to the morning news...the pax and crew from flight 116 overnighted in hotels and were scheduled to leave this morning.
Feroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14028 times:
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 23): Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 13):
assure you they didn't have anywhere near 285 tons of fuel on board a 747
JFK-LHR is more like 85tons.
I have no idea how much fuel is required, but on the audio the Captain/First Officer definitely says "285 ton(ne)s" after being asked for fuel remaining in lbs (to which he replies that he doesn't know about lbs!).
: Notice that not a single person in this thread has made any comments about the quality of BA maintenance or such things.....quite rightly so, I would
: But wasn't the CWL diversion the (belated) result of a bird strike?
: Perhaps he was flying back to LHR with more fuel because of the current rationing situation at LHR? Can the B744 hold 285 tonnes? (Boeing website rep
28 Falcon flyer
: As opposed to proceeding on a 10+ hour flight from LAX to LHR on 3 engines where they didn't make their final destination and had to drop in MAN ?
: Well the silver lining is, a decently loaded 744 with #2 on fire during t/o and/or climb and then inop can very safely and promptly return to base. Go
: NO. 216840 litres at 0.8 s.g. is 173472kg. Which sounds about right to me. (I refuelled B744 all summer but never up to max)
: Well, it must have been seen fit by the JFK ground engineers, as they must have cleared it for flight. It had a bird strike on the way in, and maybe
: I don't think anyone would have to ask for real. Duh!
33 Falcon flyer
: Well yeah, of course they discussed it with ops. My point to the original post was sarcasm about the logic of not wanting to continue on a 6 hour fli
: 285T is around Max Landing Weight of a 747, this is likely to have been the figure they have in the heads and erroneously gave to the tower...lots of
: An AN124 arrived in JFK from EGSS this afternoon carrying a spare RR engine. See: http://www.nycaviation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1407 That makes per
: Cool. Any word on how long until she is back in service? And has anyone been able to figure out how BA dealt with 250+ stranded passengers? Did they