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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

hi there, planned a trip to malta for this january 9th IST-MALTA. I've never been to malta so i have some questions

1. How is Air Malta? I noticed they had 737s and ive found a lot of A319 pics lately...

2. Where do they conduct their training for pilots? I'm not skeptical im just curious about how a smaller nation handles their training needs

3. The website says we have 1 stop on the way, but I can't find where it is.

4. Are there any other airlines in malta? or have there been any that have shut down

thanks!


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User currently offlineDens From Switzerland, joined Sep 2001, 309 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

Hi,

Quoting Pilotaydin (Thread starter):
1. How is Air Malta? I noticed they had 737s and ive found a lot of A319 pics lately...

Air Malta operates a mix of 737 and 319.

Quoting Pilotaydin (Thread starter):
2. Where do they conduct their training for pilots? I'm not skeptical im just curious about how a smaller nation handles their training needs

No idea. I guess in England.
I would'nt be worried because of the size of the country.

Quoting Pilotaydin (Thread starter):
3. The website says we have 1 stop on the way, but I can't find where it is

If you fly from Istanbul you will stop in Athens (not 100% sure...)

Quoting Pilotaydin (Thread starter):
4. Are there any other airlines in malta? or have there been any that have shut down

Air Malta is the only operator in Malta. I don't remember another airline. Air Malta operates both charter and sheduled flights!

Enjoy your stay in Malta! for me it is the best place of Europe. I really love Malta!


User currently offlineB737200 From Malta, joined Feb 2005, 225 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

Air Malta operate 737-300s, 319s and 320s. The 737s are being withdrawn from service by the new Airbuses (the oldest Airbus 9H-AEF was delivered in January 2004). As such the 737 interiors are bound to be a bit more worn down.

As to where their pilots train I'm not sure, I believe they use a school in spain and probanly some other in the UK. I'll try ask a Pilot who I sort of know. Either way, they seem well-trained (I same seem because I don't work for them and thus don't know what training they get, etc.

If I'm not mistaken your stop will be in Sofia, Bulgaria.

Air Malta was th sole in Malta for quite a while, however Britishjet has recently started lowcost flights to the UK.

It's been ages since I've used Air Malta since my last trip was with a group and they booked Lufthansa. Before that I must have been about 3 years since my previous flight. As such I can't really comment on their service, but I hear that its fairly average.

Hope this helps and have agood flight and please note that I may be mistaken on certain points since I have no insider information.



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7751 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2266 times:

Do'nt forget the spectator area at the airport.

It may not be AMS, but can be interesting.

You can also get good views from the south side of the airport.


User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

excellent, you guys kick google's ass anyday. This was just the thing i was looking for. I always enjoy flying a new airline, and the aircraft are extremely familiar to me. I will try to get jumpseat if they allow for me to.

I didn't know there was an area to watch aicraft, the hotel is only 10 kms from the airport so i will have to break off from the friends and family group to go on some nerd rush for my own  Smile

if anyone else has any other info they'd like to share id love to hear in here or over PM.



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User currently offlineFaenum From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

Quoting Pilotaydin (Thread starter):
Are there any other airlines in malta? or have there been any that have shut down

Air Melita was one that never got of the ground. The prime mover, a US citizen, had a management team from the USA/Europe and Maltese staff. 737s were said to be waiting delivery in Seattle. Cabin crew trained with TWA in Kansas and reservations and ground handling people received training in Malta. Lack of finance and local politics brought the venture to an end in mid 1969. Anybody remember this?


User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2201 times:

Quoting Pilotaydin (Thread starter):
hi there, planned a trip to malta for this january 9th IST-MALTA. I've never been to malta so i have some questions

Malta is an excellent place to visit. AM has decent in-flight service, and the A319/320's are fairly new and in excellent condition. And the airport Hard Rock Cafe bar serves my favorite British beer on tap. However, be forewarned - the AM seat pitch in Y class is very tight...


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 2173 times:

Quoting Pilotaydin (Thread starter):
4. Are there any other airlines in malta? or have there been any that have shut down

There is an operator between MLA and GZO, operating helicopters only.



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User currently offlineB737200 From Malta, joined Feb 2005, 225 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 2153 times:

Yes Helisureste operate flights to and from Gozo. Before Helisureste Malta Air Charter, an Air Malta subsidiary used to operate these flights with Mi-8 helicopters, however the type wasn't certified to fly under EU law and after Malta joined the EU they had to shut down opeartions.

The company was also making a pretty bad loss.



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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 2144 times:

air malta is a great airline their 319s are very nice and cosy inside and malta is a great place and when ive passed all my flight training my family plans to move their believe me if you dont like this island then theirs something wrong with you


You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7751 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

It would be worth checking Libyan Airways flights on the OAG Gazetter.

The entrance to the spectator area is between the two terminals.

The alternative spotting location is on the south side. You need to leave the terminal, turn left and follow the road until you reach the tunnel that goes under the runway. You then turn right at the rounsabout and continue for about 1K. You have the airpot on the left and Safi, (where a C47 and BAC111's are stored) on the right.


User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2112 times:

cheers bennett cant wait to get out there


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User currently offlineJs From Malta, joined Aug 2001, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

You can also find passenger opinions at

http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/malta.htm

I've had good and not so good trips on Air Malta, with the general trend over the last few years to be poorer service and dirtier planes. But you'll have your own experience. Air Malta operates KM 784 MLA-IST and then KM 785 IST-SOF-MLA on the return.

The airline itself is marginally okay but inefficient, mostly due to a lack of competition. I had one jumpseat visit with them in December 2001 heading up to Paris, but nothing since then. Many years ago some of their initial pilots trained in Pakistan. There was an interesting article in the Times of Malta about the expereince that the pilots and their families had living and training in Pakistan for a year or more.

The weather in January will be cold and wet. Bring a coat!


User currently offlineBBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2055 times:

I was chatting to a Maltese KM pilot and his Swedish wife on EK's DXB-LCA-MLA flight this month, and he said he had part of his training in the US (I believe it was Arizona or Texas) and part of his training in southern England.

The flight from IST to MLA makes a stop in SOF, unless it's a rare charter flight (nonstop) from/to IST.

Regarding Air Malta service standards, in economy, you'll get a meal and one free drink with your meal. Additional drinks are against payment of a small charge, except for water and juices which are served free of charge throughout the flight... At least it was so on my last flight with KM from MLA to ARN in September. I have noticed that since their cabin staff have had to take pay cuts, their attitude borders onto the impolite at times. Pretty much depends on the crew on the day I guess.

I see Air Malta doing very well, especially as from next year, as they expand their operations. I was browsing their timetable and it seems that they are going to daily ops to and from MUC as of next summer.


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2015 times:

Quoting BBADXB (Reply 13):
I was chatting to a Maltese KM pilot and his Swedish wife on EK's DXB-LCA-MLA flight this month, and he said he had part of his training in the US (I believe it was Arizona or Texas) and part of his training in southern England.

Sounds like he was trained at Oxford Aviation, at Kidlington Airport. They send cadets to Arizona for the early stages of the PPL and instrument ratings.



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User currently offlineSCEagle From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

Quite a few airlines fly to Malta...

Check out Malta's Main Airport's website


User currently offlineBBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

@Mhodgson:

Yep! He mentioned Oxford something...


As for airlines operating into MLA, there's:

LH: Daily A321 from FRA (in summer they tend to add another flight from another city, and sometimes we get the A320 or the A300 from FRA)
BA (GB): Daily A321/A320 from LGW (increases to double daily in summer)
BA (GB): 3x weekly A320 from MAN (increases to 5x weekly in summer)
AZ: Daily A319s from FCO and MXP (sometimes they send the A320 or the A321)
EK: 4x weekly A330-200 to DXB via LCA (with 5th freedom between LCA & MLA)
DE: A320/B757 from MUC on Mondays (in summer also from DUS & FRA)
LG: ER4/B737 from LUX on Sundays
KM: To the major European cities (inc. 2x daily to LHR, daily to LGW, FCO, & CTA, which all go 2x daily in summer)
JU: 2x weekly on a triangular route BEG-MLA-TIP-BEG
OS: operates to Malta in summer only 2 or 3x weekly from VIE
FHE/BJC: daily to LGW, with some weekly frequencies to other UK cities, year- round.

It could do better than that imho.

As for the rest, there's lots of charter activity, especially from the UK.


User currently offlineEgmcman From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 898 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1923 times:

Quoting Js (Reply 12):
Many years ago some of their initial pilots trained in Pakistan. There was an interesting article in the Times of Malta about the experience that the pilots and their families had living and training in Pakistan for a year or more.

Is this when they operated Boeing 720B's?

These were the first aircraft I was a passenger on operating MAN-MLA in 1982.


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