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User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10720 times:

Why so many airlines claim that their particular fleet is the "youngest" or "most modern" of the world??? To cite some, Mexicana, Taca among others??
How can they claim something if its possibly not true?? Isn´t that illegal?
Thanks for your answers.
Adam


Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12158 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10690 times:

I would think B6 can make that claim (all A-320 series and E-190s), as well as Air Tran (all B-717s and B-737-700s). SQ would (most likely) have the youngest wide body fleet.

User currently offlineDartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10677 times:
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TA can as well -- all 319, 320, and 321s, the oldest of which was delivered in 1995, I believe.

User currently offlineJetmek319 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10563 times:

Don't forget F9...The oldest A319 was delivered in May 2001.


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10493 times:

B6, FL, F9, SQ, Air Deccan, I would like to say WN because of the vast numbers of 73G's, and WJ,FR when the last 732's are gone. JetStar and Air Arabia are some of my guesses.


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10492 times:

CM also.

All brand new EMB 190 and 737/700/800.

As well MX with A319/A320 and B767.


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 984 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10474 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 4):
I would like to say WN because of the vast numbers of 73G's

WN has a huge fleet of 737NG, but the average fleet age is about 9 years old


User currently offlineTavong From Colombia, joined Jul 2001, 836 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10456 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Why so many airlines claim that their particular fleet is the "youngest" or "most modern" of the world??? To cite some, Mexicana, Taca among others??

Basucally they do that for Advertisding purposes fro the average public if you feel that you would fly on a "new" plane or a "modern" fleet will make you feel more 2secure2 so mpost of the people here in a.net can claim that is not true of at least that it's not "completely" true. But for average joe they will feel more secure, and on other hands don'0t forget that usually the "modren" words has some type of atractive to people, like when a car manufacturer says that it's product it's the most modern at the time, same aplies for aircraft and passengers.

Gus
SKBO



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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10446 times:

If TZ got rid of L-1011's when they were getting 738's and 752/3's they could have been a canidate (I actually think they were)


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User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10398 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Isn´t that illegal?

Definitely not.


User currently offlineBMIbaby733 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10253 times:

Ryanair claims the average age of it's fleet is just 2 years old!
I wonder if that is counting the 732's ?

[Edited 2005-12-31 08:00:09]

User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10240 times:

Quoting BMIbaby733 (Reply 10):
Ryanair claims the average age of it's fleet is just 2 years old!
I wonder if that is counting the 732's ?

No because they don't fly the B737-200's any more


User currently offlineEgmcman From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 898 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10215 times:

What about U2 they have a very modern fleet.

User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10072 times:

Hi All,
If you would like to get more information about Airlines fleet age and what not, go to :

www.airfleets.net

I think it's pretty accurate..

Cheers....


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9991 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 13):
If you would like to get more information about Airlines fleet age and what not, go to :

www.airfleets.net

I think it's pretty accurate..

Thanks for the link. I look up SQ and found that it's years out-of-date.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9889 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 4):
B6, FL, F9, SQ, Air Deccan, I would like to say WN because of the vast numbers of 73G's, and WJ,FR when the last 732's are gone. JetStar and Air Arabia are some of my guesses.

Not Air Deccan,as their Aircraft are mostly leased & older.In Fact Kingfisher has a very young Fleet of A320s.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 9785 times:

Early 2004, MEA claimed in its advertisements to have the youngest fleet in the world, early 2004, with 9 brand new aircraft : 6 A321 + 3 A332 :

Oldest A321 delivered Feb.14th 2003 (F-ORME).
Latest A321 delivered Nov.14th 2003 (F-ORMJ)

Oldest A332 delivered Apr.30th 2003 (F-OMEA)
Latset A332 delivered Jun.16th 2003 (F-OMEC).

At the end of Dec.2005, it gives MEA a fleet with an average age of 31 months, or 2 years 7 months.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9686 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
SQ would (most likely) have the youngest wide body fleet.

Not so sure.

CO oldest 777 late 1998. Oldest 767 late 2000. Average age about 5 1/4 years.

SQ may have about the same age, not sure. Depends on how many older 744s are retired.



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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9686 times:

Aer Lingus is 4.8 years but thats including the old 737s that have now left the fleet.

User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9661 times:

The airfleets.net fleet age thing is way out of date. They show Ryanair as having 8 B737-200's and just 83 B737-800's. I believe they now have 92 -800's, and all the B737-200's are gone.

User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2692 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9655 times:

Unless you're SQ, I think it's hard for any airline with a really large fleet to have a young fleet age without spending a huge amount of capital to constantly replace your aircraft. For example, think about AA with 300+ MD-80s. It's hard to fathom how much they would have to spend to replace all of them.

CO comes to mind as an airline whose fleet is pretty new across the board for an airline of their size.


User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9613 times:

Virgin's fleet is pretty young too. IIRC the oldest a/c is about 12 years old and due to leave the fleet soon anyway.

IIRC the average age is around 4-5 years.

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User currently offlineMatt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9557 times:

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 21):
Virgin's fleet is pretty young too. IIRC the oldest a/c is about 12 years old and due to leave the fleet soon anyway.

those are the 300's
FAB was delivered in 94 IIRC, dont think she'll be leaving in the near future


User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9551 times:

Star Flyer of Japan has most probably one of youngest fleet in the world:
they have just got delivered their first and only ac, an Airbus A320  Smile


User currently offlineMatt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9465 times:

its not really that much to brag about for shorthaul companies!
its if you can claim it whilst operating long haul that it really means something!


25 Post contains images VinnieWinnie : How can you compare small airlines and large ones? If tomorrow I started my own small company with 2 brand new leased aircrafts, would I receive a med
26 Martin21 : I guess Emirates... at least as "big" airliner Martin21
27 Cedarjet : Middle East Airlines certainly went from OLDEST to YOUNGEST in a hurry, from wall to wall 707s, 720Bs (yes!!) and three 747-200s as recently as 1999,
28 N405MX : Agree, advertising technich. MX has older A320´s, since 1991, the oldest is the 767 MXB, from 1985 (leased 2 years ago) hopefully it´ll be replaced
29 Cedars747 : I totally agree and ME really deserve to enjoy the title of world youngest fleet(They have suffered a lot) Congratulation ME!!!! Alex!
30 Dean : MA has brand new 737NGs, but the F70s and the 762s are a bit older. Also the CRJ200s are only a few years old. They have much younger fleet in average
31 EZYAirbus : acording to that website, Jetstars fleet is 85.9 yrs Glenn
32 Post contains images GTTIB : GB Airways has got a very young fleet: The airline now has 13 a/c, the first of which was manufactured in 2001. So the average age of the fleet stands
33 ChiGB1973 : Just using some simple calculations saying the 192 733s are 10 years old (all of them) and the 737-700s are all 3 years old, I came up with 6.28 aver
34 Cloudyapple : That's easy - start a new airline and buy 1 brand new aircraft - there you go you immediately become an airline with the world's youngest fleet!!! Wha
35 Don81603 : It's all a matter of perspective... If you buy used aircraft, then they are new to you, not new from the line. Same as young...
36 Simpilicity : DJ - Virgin Blue would have to be up there. I believe they only have 737-700's & 737-800's that they recd. new!!!
37 MD90fan : Arent there 733 from the 80's?
38 Post contains links ChiGB1973 : Yes, you are both right. Guess my calculations were too simple. http://www.southwest.com/about_swa/press/factsheet.html#Fleet M
39 Enrique07280 : you are right with their A320 jetblue have one of the modern fleet in world. I think also that Easyjet must have the Palm with their brand new 319 fl
40 Dalb777 : Out of the 6 U.S. legacy carriers (UA, AA, DL, CO, NW, US), who has the oldest and youngest? My guess is that NW has the oldest because they still ope
41 Enrique07280 : Hi Dalb777 you are right according to aerotransport United 10.7 years old American 13 Delta 13.1 Continental 8.2 Northwest 17.4 US Airways 11 So conti
42 TACAA320 : What??????? One of the newest in the U.S..
43 Dalb777 : Woops, I meant to say UA, AA, and DL are somewhere in the middle*
44 Post contains images Leezyjet : The A340-300's ?. The older ones are due to leave soon so the fleet will become even younger soon.
45 MD90fan : They have a few 733 that were amongst the last ones off the line over at Boeing.
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