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User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2066 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12790 times:

I have some questions about emergency doors. Please don't flame me if this topic has been discussed before, I did a search and I couldn't find anything.

First of all, on widebodies are there certain censors that will open the doors, does the pilot push some button or does the computer do it?

Secondly how do the doors open, does someone have to open the doors themselves or do the have rockets underneath that blow the door off?

I went on a Dash 8 a while ago and noticed that their are small panels around some windows, I wasn't allowed to sit their as I'm still a kid.What if a stupid pax decided to open one of the emergency exits at 25 000ft? Are the doors locked and the pilots need to unlock via some switch?

Thanks in advance.

QFA380

Happy New Year

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User currently offlineDouglasDC8 From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12764 times:

Emergency exit doors usually will have a simple mechanism to open them. Some widebody aircraft have electrically assisted doors (they also have a manual backup). The switches are near or on the doors, they can't be remotely operated. There's nothing there to blow the doors off, it's not needed.

Of course, due to the design of the doors, it's impossible to open them when the cabin is pressurized. No matter how hard a person tries to open the door handle it won't open. The door itself is pressed against the aircraft's door frame by the huge amount of air pressure in the cabin. This is called a "plug" type of door. Even doors that swing out are larger than the doorway's opening when they're closed. They usually will have some part of the door that folds inward to allow it to open.

Hope that answers your questions.

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User currently offlineMatt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12740 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Thread starter):
First of all, on widebodies are there certain censors that will open the doors, does the pilot push some button or does the computer do it?

handles on the inside of the door, airbus use a vertical handle, pulled from the bottom up to open the door on the a340 anyway, whereas boeing use a horizontal rotating handle, that moves 180 degrees to open the door! on the 744

Quoting QFA380 (Thread starter):
Secondly how do the doors open, does someone have to open the doors themselves or do the have rockets underneath that blow the door off?

theres a switch on the door, its moved from manual or disarmed (on the ground) to automatic or armed, depending on manufacturer, just before take off! you normally hear the captain on the PA "doors to armed and cross check"

when in the armed, or automatic position, if you opened the door, the slide will deploy. the dorr will be pulled open and out of the way first by compressed nitrogen!

if the aircrafts on the ground and you open a door and hear a whoosh! let go immedietley or the door WILL take you with it!

if the door is in manual or disarmed it can be opened with no problems!

Quoting QFA380 (Thread starter):
went on a Dash 8 a while ago and noticed that their are small panels around some windows, I wasn't allowed to sit their as I'm still a kid.What if a stupid pax decided to open one of the emergency exits at 25 000ft? Are the doors locked and the pilots need to unlock via some switch

impossible! for the reasons mentioned above!


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12661 times:

I beleive, though in thinking about it I have no good reason to belelve, that on the 737NG series (specifically -800s and -900s, can't remember about -700s) that if you start yanking on the outer cover of the handle for the over-wing exits that an alarm winds up sounding somewhere (not sure if it would be flightdeck or one of the Flight Attendant positions.

I know on the ground, my curiosity has -almost- gotten the better of me ("Well, the handle said 'Pull' and I didn't see any fire when I looked out the window, so I pulled it....oh, you're only suposed to do that in an emergency?!?!? Someone really should tell you that...") but I figured it would be somewhere between "very, very bad" and "FBI involved bad", even if the exit wasn't actually opened, so...

(No, I would never actually considered opening an exit window, but I would like to see what happens some day, especially since on the 737NGs the door seems to open up and out (A FA told me once it was spring loaded so once you pull you let go, or it takes care of evacuating you from the aircraft...but not sure how true that is))

On one of my flights, the little cover that's velcroed on at the bottom of the window (covering what looks like it would be a handle to pull the thing back closed) had popped off (or fallen off, it was like that when we boarded...I did point it out to the FAs) and I noticed a stamp on the back side of it...made by a company just down the street from my former employer in San Marcos, CA.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12628 times:

Quoting Matt72033 (Reply 2):
"doors to armed and cross check"

What does "cross check" mean? I hear it all the time and always wondered what it ment.



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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1569 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12615 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 4):
What does "cross check" mean? I hear it all the time and always wondered what it ment.

Means the flight attendents check each others' doors to make sure they're properly armed.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12603 times:

Oh, cool, thanks for clearin that up for me.

Later,
Justin



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User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12538 times:

Quoting Matt72033 (Reply 2):
when in the armed, or automatic position, if you opened the door, the slide will deploy. the dorr will be pulled open and out of the way first by compressed nitrogen!

True, arming a door engages the slide/slideraft and the power assist. There is, however, no compressed nitrogen, the doors are foreced open by the power assist mechanism.

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 3):
I beleive, though in thinking about it I have no good reason to belelve, that on the 737NG series (specifically -800s and -900s, can't remember about -700s) that if you start yanking on the outer cover of the handle for the over-wing exits that an alarm winds up sounding somewhere (not sure if it would be flightdeck or one of the Flight Attendant positions

Nope, there's no alarms invovled in these exits.

Quoting Antoniemey (Reply 5):
Means the flight attendents check each others' doors to make sure they're properly armed

It should also be noted that cross-checking is an airline specific procudure, not an overall thing, as many airlines do not cross-check, but rather have other checks in place.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12514 times:

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 7):
There is, however, no compressed nitrogen, the doors are foreced open by the power assist mechanism.

Not true. The new Embraer 170-190 family have a nitrogen pre-charge that blows open the door when opened in the armed position.



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12501 times:

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 7):
Nope, there's no alarms invovled in these exits.

Thanks for setting me straight on that, like I said in my original post, I don't know how I got that idea in my head...

On the subject, what's involved in "Arming" or "Disarming" a floor-level exit? I know one part is snaping the orange strap across the window, but beyond that...

Lincoln



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12470 times:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 9):
On the subject, what's involved in "Arming" or "Disarming" a floor-level exit? I

Most doors have an 'Armed' handle which is moved into a locked position prior to take off. When doing this, the Grit Bar is engaged into a locked position in the floor. It is the grit bar that when the door is opened in the armed position rips the slide pack from its stowed position and inflates the slide.



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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 12446 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Thread starter):

First of all, on widebodies are there certain censors that will open the doors, does the pilot push some button or does the computer do it?

No. Doors are always operated by flight attendants.

Quoting QFA380 (Thread starter):

Secondly how do the doors open, does someone have to open the doors themselves or do the have rockets underneath that blow the door off?

As I said before, doors are always operated by flight attendants. That includes emergency situations.

Quoting QFA380 (Thread starter):

I went on a Dash 8 a while ago and noticed that their are small panels around some windows, I wasn't allowed to sit their as I'm still a kid.What if a stupid pax decided to open one of the emergency exits at 25 000ft? Are the doors locked and the pilots need to unlock via some switch?

Doors are almost always bigger than the opening, so the pressure differences keep the door firmly in place. It is impossible for any human being to open up a cabin door once the aircraft is above a few thousand feet.

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That is an Airbus A319 door. Doors on the A318, A319 and A320 are the same. All but one pair of doors on the A321 are the same as well.

To open that door, you push that orange lever up to the "Open" position. The door pops out and you slide it out of the way, kind of like a mini-van door. To close it, you depress a lock called a "gust lock" (a lock that prevents to door from slamming shut when it's windy out, on this door it is that tan button), slide it back in the opposite direction, and pull that orange handle back down.

To arm the door, you would push that yellow lever behind that red strap down so it is flush to the fuselage. To disarm, push it back up.


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This is the "plain" door. To open, pull that silver lever to the "open position" and push the door out. To close, depress the gust lock (on a hinge) and pull the door back in. Then, rotate that silver lever in the opposite way (where it is in the picture).

The red strap indicates to ground crew that the door is armed. In the past, ground crew members have been seriously harmed by flight attendants forgetting to disarm doors. With that red strap, ground crew members know that the door is armed, and not to open it until flight attendants give them a thumbs up. Some doors automatically disarm when opened from the outside. Just off the top of my head: BAe 146, 747, 767, 777, L-1011 and all Airbuses.

To arm this door, there is a metal bar ("girt bar") that is placed into the door ("girt bar holders") and that will inflate the slide. To disarm, do the opposite.


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This is a tailcone. It is found only on aircraft that have the exits at the back of the aircraft. DC-9, MD-80, MD-90 and 717 are the only ones I know of that have these.

There are actually two different handles on this door. One is used when you want a slide to deploy, one is used when you don't want a slide to deploy.

Right now, that door is disarmed. The exposed handle is used for situations where you don't want the slide to deploy. To arm the door, you would slide that piece of fabric (the one square above the other two squares) over the exposed handle. There would be a smaller handle that is used for slide inflation.

http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=e0922b9e6318d2f01c699743
This is a video about how to open a 767 door. The L-1011 operates in the same basic way. It is 7 MB.

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User currently offlineMarkhkg From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12407 times:

It's actually a good thing the doors are not opened "all at once" by a push of a button. In an emergency, it's important to assess "outside conditions" before opening a door; if there was a fire outside, you most certainly would not want to open the exit since...
1) Flames and smoke could enter the cabin which is bad
2) Passengers may evacuate into the flames and smoke without realizing it which is also bad
3) The flames may burst the evacuation slide, which is also very bad

Additionally, other conditions which may not be the best idea to open the door is...
1) Sharp debris that may cause the slide to be ripped or interfere with the evacuation
2) Water above the lower door sill.



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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12388 times:

The window exits on 737 NG's (-7. -8, -9) are not plug type exits. In fact, they are spring loaded and when the handle is pulled down, the window exit goes out and up, staying attatched to the aircraft. When the pilots apply takeoff thrust there is an automatic locking mechanism to prevent these windows from being opened inflight. When the weight of the aircraft settles on the landing gear, these locks release.

Airbus A300 aircraft also have a similar locking mechanism and if you attempt to open the door when the lock is engaged, a red warning light will flash at you on the door. Some have aural warnings, but not all.

Above someone referred to the "grit bar." It's actually called a "girt bar." Close enough, just a spelling error. On all 737s, MD-80/90 and 717 aircraft, these girt bars are manually engaged by the flight attendant. There is a bar that sticks out from under the slide pack. The bar is placed in two brackets on the door when it is open, but when the door is closed flight attendants manaullay attatch the girt bars to two brackets on the floor. This is probably one of the least favorite things of flight attendants because it involves putting your hands on the dirty galley floor. Ick!



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12360 times:
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Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 7):
Nope, there's no alarms invovled in these exits.

On some late-model DC10 aircraft, and MD11's, there is evacuation horn at the fwd and aft FA stations, that is activated by the FD crew manually. Not sure if it has an auto-mode.

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 11):
No. Doors are always operated by flight attendants

There are different policies for different airlines. At NW, we the FA's are not allowed to touch the doors, other than to arm/disarm the doors, and in emergency situations. On the ground, the CSA's open and close the doors. When I was at World Air, we operated the doors because of the lack of contracted support at most places we flew to.

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 11):
opened from the outside. Just off the top of my head: BAe 146, 747, 767, 777, L-1011 and all Airbuses.

The 757, DC10/MD11 also.



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User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12349 times:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 9):
On the subject, what's involved in "Arming" or "Disarming" a floor-level exit? I know one part is snaping the orange strap across the window, but beyond that...

As mentioned by other posters, the placing of the orange strap across the viewing window is a sign to ground staff that the door is armed. The actual arming of the door involves the positioning of the girt bar into the floor. This is the procedure on 737s (and others, but i'm not exactly sure which)
Many airlines also 'crack' their doors on 737s (opening them slightly) as a further sign that it is all okay to open the aircraft doors. At QF, this is done when the seatbelt sign is switched off.
On other aircraft, particularly widebodies, opening an armed door from the outside automatically disarms it, hence no need for the orange straps or the carcking of the doors. A simple 'knock knock' and a thumbs up from the F/A is adequate  Smile

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 8):
Not true. The new Embraer 170-190 family have a nitrogen pre-charge that blows open the door when opened in the armed position

Cool, thanks for that info dude!! Did not know that, in fact, know very little about that aircraft, but learning more everyday  Smile

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 11):
This is the "plain" door. To open, pull that silver lever to the "open position" and push the door out. To close, depress the gust lock (on a hinge) and pull the door back in. Then, rotate that silver lever in the opposite way (where it is in the picture).

Well, yes and no. It's actually slightly more involved than. On the 737 doors, you in fact rotate the silver handle; but as you do, you feel the door coming inwards towards you, then at a certain point, you grab the assist handle (as seen on the upper left of the door) and push (and belive me, in the armed mode, you REALLY have to push) the door outwards.
During training, it's not uncommon for F/As to do themselves wrist injuries with these particular doors.

Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 13):
This is probably one of the least favorite things of flight attendants because it involves putting your hands on the dirty galley floor. Ick!

Hahaha, tell me about it.... girt bar 'water', ewwwww!!


User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12326 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 14):

There are different policies for different airlines. At NW, we the FA's are not allowed to touch the doors, other than to arm/disarm the doors, and in emergency situations. On the ground, the CSA's open and close the doors. When I was at World Air, we operated the doors because of the lack of contracted support at most places we flew to.

What I meant by that was that a pilot or a machine will never operate the door. I wasn't very clear on that. I know at American, flight attendants operate narrowbody doors and ground crew operate widebody doors.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 14):

The 757, DC10/MD11 also.

I figured the DC-10 and MD-11 did that, but I didn't think the 757 did that.

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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 12312 times:
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Quoting Aa757first (Reply 16):
I figured the DC-10 and MD-11 did that, but I didn't think the 757 did that.

Yup, it's stated in my FA manual.

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 16):
What I meant by that was that a pilot or a machine will never operate the door. I wasn't very clear on that. I know at American, flight attendants operate narrowbody doors and ground crew operate widebody doors.

We can't be trusted to open doors at NW. We're taught to fear the doors, so we don't dare touch them.



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User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12284 times:

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 16):
What I meant by that was that a pilot or a machine will never operate the door. I wasn't very clear on that. I know at American, flight attendants operate narrowbody doors and ground crew operate widebody doors

At QF, F/As don't open any doors (except in emergencies of course), and we only close the 767 and 'semi-close' the 737 doors.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12262 times:

Thanks to those who answered my question about arming/disarming doors, it was most enlightening readling the replies... always nice to learn something new.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 17):
We can't be trusted to open doors at NW. We're taught to fear the doors, so we don't dare touch them.

"Oh....my....God....The door...It's coming after me, nooooooo!" (sorry, I just have this image of a flight attendant curled up in a ball in the galley trying to "hide" from the door  Smile). I wonder what drives various airline's policies on the matter, for example, why doesn't Northwest want FAs operating the doors? If (on many models, at least) the FA has to arm/disarm the slide anyways, why not go the extra step of opening or closing?



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User currently offlineN405MX From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1378 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12260 times:

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 7):
There is, however, no compressed nitrogen, the doors are foreced open by the power assist mechanism.



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 8):
Not true. The new Embraer 170-190 family have a nitrogen pre-charge that blows open the door when opened in the armed position.

Also the A318/19/20 has the same mechanism, and believe me, it really works.....

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 7):
Nope, there's no alarms invovled in these exits.

On the A319 appears a warning on the ECAM when you unplug the cover of the handle of the overwing exit, also when the slides are armed one page of the ECAM shows it.

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User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12254 times:

Quoting N405MX (Reply 20):
On the A319 appears a warning on the ECAM when you unplug the cover of the handle of the overwing exit, also when the slides are armed one page of the ECAM shows it.

I was referring to the 737s when I made that statement.


User currently offlineMarkHKG From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12232 times:

On Airbus A319/320/321, there is a white "slide armed" light that illuminates before the door is opened as a warning. On overwing exits, the light (usually next to the window somewhere) illuminates when the hatch handle cover is removed. On emergency doors (light located under the door viewing window next to the red "Cabin Pressurized" light), the light illuminates when the door handle is rotated upwards when it is in the "armed" mode. This light is meant to serve as a warning to cabin crew that the door is indeed armed, and continued action of opening the door will deploy the slide...giving you a second to decide not to open the door or hatch. Inadvertant slide deployment is very very expensive...not to mention dangerous.

On the note of evacuation alarms:
No, aircrafts do not sound evacuation alarms when the emergency doors are opened. It needs to be manually commanded by the flight crew or the cabin crew. On most aircraft (but not all) evacuations can be commanded at each crew station; on others, only the in-charge flight attendant has the command switch at their station. It depends on the make of the aircraft. Cabin crew are responsible for silencing their alarm before proceeding with the evacuation. Having said that, the deployment of slides can be VERY loud, and the pneumatic assist and slide inflation sound is quite recognizable-- upon hearing these loud hisses, the cabin crew may realize that an evacuation has been initiated elsewhere in the cabin, since EVAC alarms have been known to fail...



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User currently offlineMarkHKG From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12224 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 8):
The new Embraer 170-190 family have a nitrogen pre-charge that blows open the door when opened in the armed position.

I have a feeling this makes it sound like the the door is blown off the aircraft; to make it clear, the EMB 170/190 doors do not "explode" off the hinges like you see in the movie "Air Force One". When we say the gas "blows open" the door, it simply means that gas is used to help push the door to the fully open position.

The pneumatic or emergency power assist is sometimes needed because when a door is armed ready for slide inflation, the door becomes much harder to open. For example, if an armed Boeing 747 door has its emergency pneumatic assist fail, it can take up to 210 lbs of force to open the door, whereas normally it is only 22 lbs.

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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12198 times:

Quoting MarkHKG (Reply 23):
The pneumatic or emergency power assist is sometimes needed because when a door is armed ready for slide inflation, the door becomes much harder to open. For example, if an armed Boeing 747 door has its emergency pneumatic assist fail, it can take up to 210 lbs of force to open the door, whereas normally it is only 22 lbs.

Just an innocent question: Why would the door become harder to open when it's armed?


25 MarkHKG : When the girt bar is engaged into the floor bracket, you now have the slide pack (containing, among other things, the evacuation slide) attached to th
26 Matt72033 : which is powered by compressed nitrogen! every door ive come accross has nitrogen emergency power assist! each door has two nitrogen bottles! one for
27 EMBQA : That's because the same people designed and built the door.
28 Andz : SAA will say "physically cross check" which means that the cabin crew on opposite sides of the aircraft must go across and check the opposite arming
29 Eddieho : During the Air France 358 two of the four slides didn't deploy properly. Actually one of them didnt deploy at all - even with the door opened. What co
30 Corsairf/a : Correction on A330 and A340, in the between the door window, you got a white light flash when trying to open the door while still armed and the red li
31 Matt72033 : they may not have been armed! Girt bar may not have stayed attached! nitrogen pressure may have been low quite a few reasons each carrier has to blow
32 Aa757first : I wasn't doubting you. I just was surprised. I shouldn't have been, though, since most doors with a handle instead of a manual girt bar do disarm whe
33 Antoniemey : Yeah, well, if the terrorists want to know how the doors work all they have to do is read the passenger safety cards. Not like it's restricted inform
34 Post contains images VHXLR8 : To be honest, I don't really understand it either. The only reasons that I can really think of would be to prevent injury to F/As during opening or c
35 ToTheStars : At TWA our flight attendants also opened the doors on the DC-9, MD-80 and 727, and the 757 and the agent closed them. We were trained to open them in
36 Post contains images Debonair : ATTENTION!!!Its not true!! Its a customer OPTION. E.g. Lufthansa is flying the B737fleet without strap... But also, this strapis availbale on B757, M
37 S5FA170 : On the Embraer 170 I work on, we are taught both how to open and close the door in normal, everday operating procedures (ie - at the gate) and then o
38 TUNisia : Didn't the L-1011 have doors that slid up into the body of the plane, instead of swinging outside?
39 Debonair : Yeap, like many others! B767, DC-10, L1011...
40 TUNisia : Thanks! I was going to say 767 too. I remember seeing those when flying TWA and I always thought it was soo cool. In the TW safety cards the doors go
41 Flyboy80 : I have to say all airplane doors are fun to operate, they make cool sounds, some are heavy and unpredictable! And about the terrorists...lol, well...f
42 Post contains images A319XFW : I'm sure I've heard stories/read reports on mx crew or f/a getting hit/blown out by doors when they opened them when there was still some residual pre
43 Post contains links MarkHKG : At least 2 people have been killed by Airbus 300 doors because they did not realize the cabin was still pressurized-- in two seperate incidents, no l
44 AT : This is a fascinating and informative post. Does anyone have pics/diagrams of the "slide-up" door- the type on the 767 and DC10/L1011, that shows how
45 Lincoln : Do all doors on the DC-10 slide up or is it just L1? I was in First on a NW DC-10-40 about 5 years ago, and remember watching the L2 door being opene
46 AT : all doors on the Dc10 open upward. THe L1 and R1 doors are smaller then the remaining doors, presumably due to the narrowing of the fuselage up front.
47 Post contains links and images MarkHKG : Probably the best source is...safety cards! Check out the following website which has the scanned pictures of the cards, so you don't have to go taki
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