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Loose Drink Carts In Empty Cargo Hold  
User currently offlineJumpseatflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 163 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

I was unloading hockey bags for the Florida Panthers charter to Buffalo on Miami Air on Saturday. While checking the front cargo hold (727, ex N835AA) for additional hockey bags/sound equipment, I noticed four drink carts laying (unteathered) on their sides in the otherwise empty hold. This seems like a really good way to damage the carts/bang up the belly walls. It's not a blantant safety issue, but it seems careless.

Any insight/expereince with this?

PS-- It felt really great to be in a 27 cockpit again. I haven't been in one since I didn't understand a thing about the systems.

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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3095 times:

Lashing should have been provided in the Bulk hold.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

On the 727, that's pretty common. I remember doing engine out ferry flights and having to make sure all the galley equipment was in the Fwd cargo bin. IIRC there's no real way to secure it in there either.

User currently offlineDouglasDC8 From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2951 times:

sounds like built in ballast for ferry fights!

User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

Exactly! IIRC on the 72, with no pax and a light fuel loading the CG is actually out of the envelope. However, there is a special engine out ferry CG limit chart and by putting all the galley equipment in the fwd cargo hold, you move the CG forward enough so there's no worries.

User currently offlinePogo From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

From my experience any catering equipment in the hold has always been secured with rope etc.


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User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1725 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 2):
galley equipment was in the Fwd cargo bin. IIRC there's no real way to secure it in there either.

No tracks in the floor? How are containers secured?

Tod


User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5957 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2567 times:

Quoting Tod (Reply 6):
No tracks in the floor? How are containers secured?

there are no containers on a 727 its handloaded much like a 737



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