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User currently offlineTraveler_7 From Estonia, joined May 2000, 542 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2912 times:

Does there exists any passanger airliner which could fly Nonstop from London to Sydney? Or would it be in production soon? I heared some thing about Locheed ideas to build such liner but it was more than a year ago. Do you now some thing about it or have any ideas about it?


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User currently offline777x From United States of America, joined Dec 2014, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

No commercial airliner (or planned airliner) can make the trip from London to Sydney. Expect to be one stopping for the foreseeable future.


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5601 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

The two airliners which are in production with the best range are the A 340-500 and the B 777LR, but both won't be able to make it nonstop with passengers abord.

User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 25347 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2829 times:

Im sure a 747-400 on a delivery flight to Qantas managed London-Sydney nonstop.

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User currently offline777x From United States of America, joined Dec 2014, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

Yes, the first 747-400 delivered to Qantas flew London-Sydney nonstop, but this was empty and towed to the end of the runway at London, and fueled with a special high density fuel. Empty planes can also fly far further distances than the 'normal' operating weight range (that is normally quoted by a/c manufacturers)

AFAIK the aircraft arrived in Sydney with about 4 tons of fuel onboard (less that the min diversion fuel required on pax flights)


User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

Technically, a QANTAS 747-438, VH-OJ? made an LHR-SYD nonstop, but most extra weight was removed, and only a few airline personnel were on board. To add to that, extra fuel tanks were added. So that really doesn't count.

I remember hearing about an A340-1800. This plane eventually evolved into the A340-500, but as I recall the plane was to be even smaller than the A340-200, but to have longer range. The number comes from the planes ability to fly 18 hours, and easily do Europe-Oz non-stop. The plane was to give up cargo space, and have sleeper cabins on the lower level. Does anyone else remember this plane?


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User currently offlineQf747sp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (15 years 11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

I don't remember the A340-1800, but I do remember at one point hearing about a Qantas plan to operate London - Perth nonstop using new/leased A340s. I guess the plan never came through. Maybe if Qantas goes through with an A340-500/777LR purchase, they could do this. But I expect passenger still enjoy going through Singapore's superb Changi airport. Anyway, who wants to sit on a plane for 18 hours! My butt is numb after the 14 hour LAX -SYD!

User currently offlineAnzff From Australia, joined May 2000, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (15 years 11 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Do you guys mean the A340-8000? I had read that AI were launching it but then it all went quiet and they announced the -500 and -600 instead. The -8000 was to have been based on the A340-200 but with extra fuel tanks and would have had an 8000nm range (hence the name) when carrying a small payload of first and business passengers only (on zoo sorry economy class - they weigh too much). Some editorials have suggested QF should have ordered them to operate nonstop but QF would never have ordered Airbuses anyway!

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