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US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:  
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5293 times:

http://www.shareholder.com/americawe...ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=183199

The affected routes are CLT-PHL/IND/LEX/RIC/PHF/CHA/ABE/PGV/MDT/PVD/PIT, PHL-ROC/BTV/ALB/CLT/CAK/GSO, and PIT-ROC/SYR/LGA/CLT


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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5255 times:

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Thread starter):
US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

They sure lowered them last year to about $2


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3411 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5231 times:

just an arm, no longer an arm and a leg???

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5156 times:

So the hub routes are cheaper... losing the hub-premium I suppose? I guess those CR2s and the A320 to CLT from up here might get some actual O&D butts in the seats instead of just people connecting to their sunny vacations.

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5070 times:

These prices are still far more than what B6 charges to the respective cities from JFK (ROC/PIT/PHL/BTV).
Worlds largest LCC -- ha.

-Mr. X



What now?
User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5036 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 4):
PIT/PHL

B6 goes there now? Interesting, Dan Onorato will be happy to hear they finally recruited them to PIT now.  Yeah sure Why should US kill their own yields on routes? New-to-market LCC's do it with cheap fares because they're trying to steal market share from other's already established in a said market... not because they feel like it.


User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4987 times:

The HP pricing group probably found out what a mess the complex US fare stratification was and said forget it. If they truly are converting everything to the HP LCC model we should expect to see more of this. It will be interesting to see how they are going to make transatlantic pricing work with it.

User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3253 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4969 times:

US should've done this many years ago, as it would have saved a significant portion of their marketshare back East. At least it's being done now to help defend its marketshare from competitors, especially from WN, B6 and FL. Although this is a major step in the right direction, there still is work to be done.


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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4488 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4935 times:

It looks like US is dressing up some ordinary Jan.-Feb. demand-trough seat-filler fares with a press release. The fares aren't even all that low. ROC-PHL for advance RT $198 is still higher than the advance RT $116 I generally pay on AirTran for longer ROC-BWI. And PHL-CLT at $278 for advance RT is probably much higher than what AirTran (or WN if they entered CLT) would charge for advance RT if they served the route.

Regarding introductory fares by new LCC's on a route: there's more to them than taking market share of an existing demand pie. When an LCC enters a route, they tend to generate new demand, that is ongoing with their regular, non-introductory low fares. And they make money doing it. Thus, WN generated strong ongoing new demand on say PVD-PHL and PVD-BWI.

Jim


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4085 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4835 times:

One-thousand-two-hundred dollars is what it'll cost you to go from Manchester (NH) to Charlotte. I kid you not. That is FIVE roundtrips from Boston to Dublin on Aer Lingus. Can you believe that?

The mainline carriers are forcing us back to Boston. Delta is doing it, United is doing it, and now USAirways is doing it.

No tears will be spilled when Southwest enters Charlotte. Only a fool would think that Southwest will limit its expansion to PHL and PIT. The next obvious station is CLT.

USAirways charging over a THOUSAND dollars to go from Manchester to Charlotte is exactly why Southwest should run 'em out of town. And I hope they do.

Chris in NH


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4811 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
And I hope they do.

Then I hope you're happy when you can only access 60 (or so, not sure on the exact tally) cities, and no international at all. Then all the "I hope Southwest runs (insert Legacy here) out of town" folks can be happy. Like they say, be careful what you wish for.


User currently offlineCltguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4780 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
One-thousand-two-hundred dollars is what it'll cost you to go from Manchester (NH) to Charlotte. I kid you not. That is FIVE roundtrips from Boston to Dublin on Aer Lingus. Can you believe that?

I just checked on usairways.com and they list the cheapest available ticket for MHT-CLT as $381 r/t.


User currently offlineCltguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4751 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 1):
They sure lowered them last year to about $2

They will be going even cheaper next month. 50 cents. No joke.
http://www.50centflights.com


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4722 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
USAirways charging over a THOUSAND dollars to go from Manchester to Charlotte is exactly why Southwest should run 'em out of town. And I hope they do.

Manchester, UK or Manchester, New Hampshire?



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User currently offlineCltguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4698 times:

Manchester, UK to CLT is currently running at $407 round-trip...thats a trip you couldn't take on SWA.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4481 times:

Quoting Cltguy (Reply 12):

They will be going even cheaper next month. 50 cents. No joke.
http://www.50centflights.com

Selling one flight for .50 cents after buying the credit card with an annual fee of like $65 is probably less money lost than CO has lost giving me 5% off for the past 9 months on ALL flights because I enrolled in their credit card.


User currently offlineHoosierCFI From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

Sounds like US is lowering it just enough to make the flight not seem like a complete rip-off. Probably to try and keep more LCC's out of CLT, PHL, and PIT. Something tells me that this will still be a losing battle for US.

User currently offlineCltguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 15):
Selling one flight for .50 cents after buying the credit card with an annual fee of like $65 is probably less money lost than CO has lost giving me 5% off for the past 9 months on ALL flights because I enrolled in their credit card.

There is no annual fee for the first 2 years. Also you can potentialy get up to (4) 50 cent flights. Sounds like a good deal to me.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7510 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
One-thousand-two-hundred dollars is what it'll cost you to go from Manchester (NH) to Charlotte. I kid you not. That is FIVE roundtrips from Boston to Dublin on Aer Lingus. Can you believe that?



Quoting Cltguy (Reply 11):
I just checked on usairways.com and they list the cheapest available ticket for MHT-CLT as $381 r/t.

I just checked http://www.usairways.com for r/t MHT-CLT fares for several weekends plus Jan. 9-11 and came up with the following results:

Jan. 27-29 (3-weeks advance) lowest n/s r/t fare is listed at $411.60; lowest fare listed was $292.30.

Jan. 20-22 (2-weeks advance) lowest r/t fare is listed at $424.60

Jan. 13-16 (MLK weekend, 1-week advance) lowest n/s r/t fare is listed at $1255.60; lowest fare listed was $542.30 but its itinerary involved 2 connections (PHL & JAX at 7 hours of total travel time) each way.

Jan. 9-11 (3-days advance, no Saturday night stay) lowest n/s r/t fare is listed at $1255.60; lowest fare listed was $576.30 but its itinerary involved 2 connections (PHL & BWI at 7 hours of total travel time) each way.

So ChrisNH's $1200+ MHT-CLT r/t claim is indeed a valid one.

At its highest, a WN r/t last-minute r/t fare (if it served CLT) would be just over $600 (includes taxes & fees); about half of US' last-minute MHT-CLT fares (with a reasonable itinerary).



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

Quoting Cltguy (Reply 17):
There is no annual fee for the first 2 years. Also you can potentialy get up to (4) 50 cent flights. Sounds like a good deal to me.

If that's the case, is there a minimum contract? I'll cut the thing up after 20 months or so.  Smile


User currently offlineBoeingguy1 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4052 times:

What US is charging from PHL/EWR to CLT is absurd. If there is a domestic route that any airlines are making a profit from, it has to be EWR-CLT with CO or US, the bastards charge in excess of 250 plus... and whenever im on these flights, there always full....

WHERE IS MY B6? Come to Charlotte, and drive the big Full Far- I mean "LCC" US Airways into the ground.



Gatwick South! Id rather crash in Brighton!
User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4036 times:

Quoting Boeingguy1 (Reply 20):
If there is a domestic route that any airlines are making a profit from, it has to be EWR-CLT with CO or US, the bastards charge in excess of 250 plus

Oh no not $250 whole dollars.  Yeah sure
Try ABE, or any smaller mid-sized RJ-sized market to just about ANYWHERE in the nation. $250 would be a blessing.


User currently offlineBoeingguy1 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4025 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 21):
Oh no not $250 whole dollars.
Try ABE, or any smaller mid-sized RJ-sized market to just about ANYWHERE in the nation. $250 would be a blessing.

What youre talking about dosent exactly compare with CLT-NYC. With the amount of low fare airlines/fares from NYC, one would expect that a flight from NYC to America's 2nd largest financial center (CLT) could be a little cheaper...



Gatwick South! Id rather crash in Brighton!
User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2971 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3997 times:

Quoting Boeingguy1 (Reply 22):
With the amount of low fare airlines/fares from NYC, one would expect that a flight from NYC to America's 2nd largest financial center (CLT) could be a little cheaper...

I agree. I think a good fare from NYC to CLT would be $180 r/t. I'm pretty sure when B6 announces their flights the fares will be around $79-$229 each way.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3929 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 23):

I agree. I think a good fare from NYC to CLT would be $180 r/t.

Spoiled flyers, that's all I can say.


User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 25, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

Yes, this is clearly in response to B6 and WN, who are just dying to fly CLT-PGV, CLT-LEX, PIT-ROC, CLT-CHA, and half of the rest of the routes. I'm sure B6 and WN will announce them any day now.  Yeah sure

Quoting Cltguy (Reply 12):
They will be going even cheaper next month. 50 cents. No joke.
http://www.50centflights.com

It's Juniper Bank's promotion, they'll be paying US for the flights. A discounted amount, to be sure, but US will be getting a good deal more than 50 cents.



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