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JetStar Asia Launches BLR-SIN @ Rs. 2999  
User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1045 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3570 times:

Jet*Asia launches BLR-SIN flights on Jan 25th @ Rs. 2999.00. Initially it has 5 weekly flights on the sector. Bookings have to be made by today and travel by March 2006.

Jet* has offers onward connections to Phuket, Bangkok and Hongkong on it's own flights.

The BLR-SIN flight leaves at 3.35 AM IST and reaches SIN at 10.25 AM. I just checked out it's website. The earliest availability is on Jan 23rd. Good see more flights on this sector.


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3529 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Thread starter):
Rs. 2999.00.

Not too shabby of a price.

Quoting Himmat01 (Thread starter):
The BLR-SIN flight leaves at 3.35 AM IST and reaches SIN at 10.25 AM

That's too damn early in the morning to catch a flight especially with not much to do at BLR.



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User currently offlineLordHowe From Finland, joined Jan 2003, 728 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Thread starter):
The BLR-SIN flight leaves at 3.35 AM IST

Could someone please tell me which airport is BLR (Bangalore?) - Then why does this plane leave IST (=Istanbul)?

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
That's too damn early in the morning to catch a flight especially with not much to do at BLR.

???

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LordHowe



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User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1045 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3488 times:

Quoting LordHowe (Reply 2):
Then why does this plane leave IST

IST is Indian Standard Time.

Quoting LordHowe (Reply 2):
Could someone please tell me which airport is BLR (Bangalore?) -

Yes it is Bangalore



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User currently offlineLordHowe From Finland, joined Jan 2003, 728 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3482 times:

Thanks!

Regards,
LordHowe



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3432 times:

Well, 3.25AM is the price you gotta pay for Rs 2999/-. But aren't taxes for international routes much higher than the Rs 221/- we pay on domestic flights?


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User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1045 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 5):
But aren't taxes for international routes much higher than the Rs 221/- we pay on domestic flights?

You'll end up paying Rs. 1260.00 in taxes for this flight.



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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2869 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 6):
You'll end up paying Rs. 1260.00 in taxes for this flight.

Singapore Airlines bombards you in taxes i ended up paying Rs 7100 as taxes on my SQ flight last month.

1260 is nothing in comparison to SQ


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 6):
You'll end up paying Rs. 1260.00 in taxes for this flight.

Therfore the Cheapest tix will be around Rs 4500/- one-way and around Rs 9000 return. Now, with travel agancies giving India-SIN tickets on carriers like TG and MH for dirt cheap will these fares be really attractive, or will they bring in an entirely new class of consumer?

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 7):
Singapore Airlines bombards you in taxes i ended up paying Rs 7100 as taxes on my SQ flight last month.

You can ask them for a break-up of the text and your taxes were also for a return flight.



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User currently offlineTifoso From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3346 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 8):
Therfore the Cheapest tix will be around Rs 4500/- one-way and around Rs 9000 return.

$225 taxes included, round-trip for a 3 hour journey seems rather cheap.

Quoting Cricket (Reply 8):
Now, with travel agancies giving India-SIN tickets on carriers like TG and MH for dirt cheap

I'm curious. What kind of numbers are you talking about here?


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 9):
I'm curious. What kind of numbers are you talking about here?

If you read the classified sections of the newspaper you see adverts for return air-fares to KL, Bangkok, Singapore for as little as Rs 10-12k (taxes included) - not as bad as during SARS when if you could get DEL-SIN for Rs 8k if you just looked.
A friend of mine flew Myanmar Airlines to Bangkok and paid some ridiculously low sum of money - under 10k.
What is really surprising here - that even after you include taxes - this ticket is cheaper than most tickets you'll find on a two and a half hour DEL-MAA flight.



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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 7):
Singapore Airlines bombards you in taxes i ended up paying Rs 7100 as taxes on my SQ flight last month

Isn't the Indian Government rather than SQ? All SQ does is just collect what they are required to. You make it sound as if it's all up to SQ.


User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8646 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 11):
Isn't the Indian Government rather than SQ? All SQ does is just collect what they are required to. You make it sound as if it's all up to SQ.

Phil,

I dont know the exact breakdown for an SQ flight, however additional security, check in staff, ground handeling, fuel surcharge, booking fees, landing fees etc I have seen passed onto passengers as "charges and taxes"

If SQ does this, its not the only major to do it, book a flight SIN-BKK, SIN-HKG, SIN-MNL, SIN-TPE, the base ticket price maybe the same between airlines, only when you go to finish off the purchase and you see how the charges and taxes vary.



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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3172 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 11):
Isn't the Indian Government rather than SQ? All SQ does is just collect what they are required to. You make it sound as if it's all up to SQ.

Phil - no it's not the Indian Govt. It's SQ pulling the wool over customer's eyes and passing on "Fuel surcharges" etc. in the form of taxes. Indian govt has exactly the same tax rules for IC/3K/SQ and the "taxes" on these are way different.



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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 13):
Phil - no it's not the Indian Govt. It's SQ pulling the wool over customer's eyes and passing on "Fuel surcharges" etc. in the form of taxes. Indian govt has exactly the same tax rules for IC/3K/SQ and the "taxes" on these are way different.

Please, until you have factual evidence, don't blame it on SQ. I have spent enough of time in BLR/CCU/MAA/DEL/BOM to know how the aviation sector in India works. I am sure you'll find the same thing with any LCC operating between SIN and India.


User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2869 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 10):
A friend of mine flew Myanmar Airlines to Bangkok and paid some ridiculously low sum of money - under 10k.
What is really surprising here - that even after you include taxes - this ticket is cheaper than most tickets you'll find on a two and a half hour DEL-MAA flight.

I flew CX on 27 Dec on BOM-BKK on a 773 for 10,740 all inclusive

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 11):
the Indian Government rather than SQ? All SQ does is just collect what they are required to. You make it sound as if it's all up to SQ.



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 14):
Please, until you have factual evidence, don't blame it on SQ. I have spent enough of time in BLR/CCU/MAA/DEL/BOM to know how the aviation sector in India works. I am sure you'll find the same thing with any LCC operating between SIN and India.

Phil with nothing personally intended at you i know for a fact that Nimish is right when he says

Quoting Nimish (Reply 13):
Phil - no it's not the Indian Govt. It's SQ pulling the wool over customer's eyes and passing on "Fuel surcharges" etc. in the form of taxes. Indian govt has exactly the same tax rules for IC/3K/SQ and the "taxes" on these are way different.

Because while planning my SIN-HKG trip i was getting CX for a much cheaper rate wherein the taxes were around 4,500 Rs, my reason for not selecting CX was that the routing was very tiring for my friend who is not a fond flyer taking us BOM-BKK-SIN-HKG-BKK-BOM

SQ was around 25K for BOM-SIN-HKG-BOM all inclusive
CX was around 17.5K for BOM-BKK-SIN-HKG-BKK-BOM all inclusive

Hope this clarifies things a bit


User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8646 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3216 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 14):
Please, until you have factual evidence, don't blame it on SQ.

Phil I am not blaming SQ.

I went to both web sites, had a look at booking a flight SIN-BLR-SIN out on feb 20, return feb 27, the 3K flight outbound has $ 58.00 SGD in taxes, consisting of SGD$20 fuel surcharge, SIN$17 for insurance, SIN$21 for airport and network charges. The return flight slightly lower is SIN$47, with the airport and network charges being lower at SIN$10.

SQ for flights on the same dates has SIN$215.00 in taxes, no breakdown given, thats SIN$110 differance between the airlines.

Total ticket price SQ, SIN$1,415.00, 3K, SIN$ 582.00

I also had a look at a flights for teh same dates, SIN-SYD, QF has SIN$309.00 taxes and charges, SQ also SIN$309.00.

SIN-HKG-SIN SQ SIN$87.00 in taxes, CX SIN$87.00, 3K SIN$106.

SIN-BKK-SIN SQ SIN$89.00 in taxes, CX SIN$65.00, 3K SIN$75, TG SIN$123.00.

SIN-LHR-SIN, SQ SIN$298.00, BA SIN$298.00, QF SIN$298.00.

I guess the real issue for travelers is that no breakdown is given for the SQ flights.



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User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3180 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 10):

The most ridiculous of all is the craziness over Bombay-Dilly at this time of the year.

My mum decided at the last minute that she wanted to go to Dilly for a friend's daughter's wedding (the poor, disillusioned girl thinks it's a good idea to move there  Wink ).

Business class tickets on Jet Airways aren't exactly cheap - it's Rs 30,000! And Jet have 12 flights each way, every day. Turns out there wasn't a single seat available either way!

She ended up on Indian Airlines.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3166 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 15):
SQ was around 25K for BOM-SIN-HKG-BOM all inclusive
CX was around 17.5K for BOM-BKK-SIN-HKG-BKK-BOM all inclusive

First of all, you have to compare apples to apples. One thing to keep in mind is Changi charges less for LCC than it does for non-LCCs. That is one difference right there. Comparing BKK to SIN may or may not be a valid comparison.

Quoting Zeke (Reply 16):
I went to both web sites, had a look at booking a flight SIN-BLR-SIN out on feb 20, return feb 27, the 3K flight outbound has $ 58.00 SGD in taxes, consisting of SGD$20 fuel surcharge, SIN$17 for insurance, SIN$21 for airport and network charges. The return flight slightly lower is SIN$47, with the airport and network charges being lower at SIN$10.

Zeke, I think the issue is flights ex-India.

I suggest calling the local SQ office and getting a breakdown on the taxes. Remember if any taxes are a percentage of the base fare, it should be obvious that the LCC will then have a lower tax, but not a lower tax rate.


User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

Quoting Jasepl (Reply 17):
the poor, disillusioned girl thinks it's a good idea to move there ).

She'll be happier.

No pedestrians, oodles of space, luxurious roads, open skies and great food!


User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8646 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 18):
Remember if any taxes are a percentage of the base fare, it should be obvious that the LCC will then have a lower tax, but not a lower tax rate.

That is not my understanding, I was of the understanding it had to do with MTOW, each movement is charges so much per KG of their MTOW for landing and airways charges.

To disprove your statment, a J seat on the same SIN-BLR-SIN flight has the same tax as a Y seat despite being SIN$2,515.00 vs SIN$1,415.00, a F class seat also has the same tax SIN$215. (SIN$3,215.00 total).



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User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1045 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

How exactly are the taxes calculated?


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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 19):
Quoting Jasepl (Reply 17):
the poor, disillusioned girl thinks it's a good idea to move there ).

She'll be happier.

No pedestrians, oodles of space, luxurious roads, open skies and great food!

Being a Dilli-Boy, I miss the space - but working in Bombay right now I will admit this much - Iss Shahar mein jaan hai!

Plus Delhi Airport has faaaaaaaaar better approach roads.



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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 22):
Iss Shahar mein jaan hai!

Dost 1½ saal baombay mein rahaa. local train mein travel karke 'jaan' nikal jaati thi. Drive karne ki jagah nahi thi.

Aur fir agar bombay mein jaan hai to dilli mein Dil hai... kyun?


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 23):
Aur fir agar bombay mein jaan hai to dilli mein Dil hai... kyun?

Voh to sachh baat hai dost!
Local pein Jaan to nikal jataa hain, voh mein maanunga. That said, the nightlife here is killer.
Back to the topic, wasn't JetStarAsia supposed to start services to CCU as well?



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25 Post contains images Nimish : They've been flying to CCU for a fair while now. In fact I did some checking - it's currently cheaper to fly 3K BLR-SIN-CCU than buy a full fare on B
26 Post contains images Nimish : Phil - I'm going to disagree with you there. This is likely "pot calling the kettle black" - but - unless you have specific evidence otherwise - plea
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