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User currently offlineDreamflight767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 93 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27374 times:
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Hi Everyone:

I just saw a commercial on the Travel Channel. It seems to resemble the reality show "Airline." However they follow Flight Attendants as they go thru the hiring and training process. I saw a number of logos (Southwest, jetBlue, and Frontier) so it looks as though they visit the various airline training facilities.

The first show starts next Thursday. I thought it looked interesting and wanted to share.

Have a nice night...

Aaron

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User currently offlineNZblue From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 638 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27346 times:

Though I cannot say much about it due to the non-disclosure agreements we all had to sign (my class was the one that was filmed for this very show), I can tell you that it exclusively follows the 6-week training program at Frontier Airlines, and the show is titled "Flight Attendant School". I've seen the commercials myself...in fact, today I found myself watching the Travel Channel just to see the commercials! So far, I've seen two different commercials, and the more I see them, the more excited I am to see the show, even though I know how it turns out in the end  silly 

A full line up of air dates and times can be found on the Travel Channel website. The show features 18 half-hour episodes and will run (as far as I know) for nine weeks.

Hope you all enjoy watching it as much as I enjoyed going through it!

Regards,

NZblue



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User currently offlineUPS707 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27316 times:

Quoting NZblue (Reply 1):
Hope you all enjoy watching it as much as I enjoyed going through it!

And you're now a TIVO season pass for me  Smile

Thanks for the heads-up guys!


User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 27294 times:

Quoting NZblue (Reply 1):
my class was the one that was filmed for this very show

Was Annie E in your class?


User currently offlineNZblue From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 638 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 27292 times:

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 3):
Was Annie E in your class?

She was indeed!



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User currently offlineEngineersWife From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 27261 times:

Sounds like a very interesting show. Pity it won't arrive here until whoever knows when - if at all!


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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5310 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 27075 times:

This is what's wrong with Airline, too much CSAs dealing with passengers, and not enough things such as F/A training, pilot training, maintenance, pilots going over flight plans in ops, central operations deciding when to cancel flights, etc.

One of the most interesting things I've seen is learing how DL handles connecting bags at ATL. I saw that on either Discovery or TLC.

I'm looking forward to the new show on Travel Channel.


User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 27063 times:

Airline was canceled...so this show is coming on right in time!

User currently offlineEtops1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 27017 times:

it looks like they approached america west first for this but the merger complicated things because they put a hiring freeze . so they went to another great airline. frontier. can't wait to watch it.

User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 26731 times:

I imagine that since the F/A's in this show have now graduated and are online there will be more than a few "You're the guy/girl on that TV show!" comments from passengers.
I think this show will be interesting to say the least!


User currently offlineWillbdsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 26606 times:

Airline was cancelled??

User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 26581 times:

Quoting Willbdsp (Reply 10):
Airline was cancelled??

Again WTF? since when. But this new show really looks cool, really proves that FA's are more than eye candy and drink servers.



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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 26558 times:

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 6):
This is what's wrong with Airline, too much CSAs dealing with passengers, and not enough things such as F/A training, pilot training, maintenance, pilots going over flight plans in ops, central operations deciding when to cancel flights, etc.

The only problem with your sensible request is that it would be difficult to make each one of those areas trashy enough to generate the required ratings that would make the whole effort profitable.


User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3308 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 26485 times:

I understand that the VP of Inflight at Frontier died unexpectedly while the show was being filmed. It'll be interesting to see how its handled.

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25693 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 26443 times:
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Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 13):
I understand that the VP of Inflight at Frontier died unexpectedly while the show was being filmed. It'll be interesting to see how its handled.

Yes. There's an article about her - and the show - in today's Denver Post:

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_3389937

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 26424 times:

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 13):
understand that the VP of Inflight at Frontier died unexpectedly while the show was being filmed. It'll be interesting to see how its handled.

This is true. Pam Gardner was with Frontier for 14 years I believe. I have met her at Frontier's GO in DEN. She actually passed away the same day the Travel Channel ran the first commercial for the new show. I think it was a week or so ago. She was in Houston at the time. It's been tough for many people in the company. Everyone knew her.

I believe the company held a memorial for her on Monday. The premier episode of "Flight Attendant Training" was shown at her memorial.

I will be interested too to see how her passing is handled on the show. I do beleive Pam would have wanted the show to go on. She loved Frontier.


User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 26228 times:

Quoting Flairport (Reply 7):
Airline was canceled...so this show is coming on right in time!

According to the A&E network website, Airline has not been cancelled, they have moved it to Tuesdays,permanently, I don't know, but it hasn't been cancelled



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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 26192 times:

Brutal, brutal, brutal... I can't beleive they let the one flight attendant go on the first day because she got locked out! Hello... surely a circumstance not within her control. Anyway... most airlines run a tight ship when it comes to training, but compassion goes along way too.

And what's with the climbing wall and walking a balance beam some ten+ feet in the air? Crazy!



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User currently offlineCalpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 999 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26139 times:

Pam was a great lady. Her husband is a B737 F/O for CO, and all of our thoughts go out to his family.

User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26125 times:

that'll put flight attendants in a new (dumb) light.

They'll be shown up as the glorified waiters & waitresses they really r !!!

(should get some reaction out of this one !!! )


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26109 times:

I might as well be the first to take a crack at the stock footage, in Seinfeld fashion...

"And what's the deal with all the United Airlines stock footage? Has UnTIED somehow managed to tie the knot with Frontier???"

Greg



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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26097 times:

Pam Gardner died December 29, likely after the show finished filming, so it won't have an impact on the show itself, but surely it is affecting the employees of Frontier. Very sad.


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User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4317 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26080 times:

Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 17):
Brutal, brutal, brutal... I can't beleive they let the one flight attendant go on the first day because she got locked out! Hello... surely a circumstance not within her control. Anyway... most airlines run a tight ship when it comes to training, but compassion goes along way too.

You saw what Pam said quite clearly as I did. She told the class that they have to be in the room at a certain time, after which the doors would be locked. If you weren't inside the doors at that time, you were canned, no ifs ands or buts.

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 19):
They'll be shown up as the glorified waiters & waitresses they really r !!!

If anyone on this forum still thinks that after seeing the entire season of this show, they need to have their head examined.


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5339 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26040 times:

Just watched both episodes. My DVR will tape the rest from now on.

I didn't know until the end of the second episode that Pam had died. I spent both episodes marveling at her people skills and her firm-yet-fair demeanor. It was also obvious how much her instructors admired and respected her, and learned from her how to handle difficult situations. I also noted that she didn't palm off the firing on others, but made a point to handle that part personally, which is impressive.

I don't know whether Pam was an f/a prior to being an executive, but that's not an uncommon path in this business. I pulled up Frontier's press release from her appointment in 1998 at age 43, and it doesn't mention her background. To say that she died of a "blood clot" is a bit disconcerting and makes me wonder whether this is an example of that particular occupational issue in the airline biz, or whether it was something totally unrelated. It doesn't look like Frontier is saying much about that. But it will certainly make me remember to take my Ecotrin tonight.

She seems like a wonderful person, and I know that she leaves huge shoes to fill.

Sorrowfully,

Bill


User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 26007 times:

I thought the show was extremely well done, considering what it could have been if they hadn't planned it well. I actually found it quite suspenceful.
I was kind of in shock when I saw the memorial photo of Pam at the end of the show. That took me by complete surprise.
NZBlue, I saw you sitting in there a time or two! smile 


25 Post contains images Lincoln : May she RIP... From what was shown of her on the program she seems like she was a wonderful person/manager. On a brighter note, this program is almos
26 CALPilot : Pam, started at PanAm, Rocky Mtn., and Continental Express prior to Frontier.
27 GentFromAlaska : Great show. I was however expecting CEO Jeff Potter to come in and introduce himself to the class in the first episodes. I also hope he will attend th
28 F9fan : I thought the show was very well done, more like a documentary than a "reality" show. I have to wonder, however, if the "crash pad" they showed is som
29 Post contains links MidnightMike : Very sad to hear of the news about Pam, one look at her and you know we was all business and had a lover for the company she worked for. http://www.le
30 Wjcandee : When my old g/f was training for ML years ago, they made her memorize a bunch of cities that ML didn't fly to. The reasoning was that interline and c
31 A330300 : The housing was specifically done for the show I believe. For most of the other trainees, they either lived in the area or had already relocated.
32 Tifoso : The doors that you are talking about are those of the classroom where all the students were housed. In the show, the person got locked out of the ent
33 MtnWest1979 : By the looks of the house they are staying in and the situations bound to arise,this looks like it should have been named "Real World: Frontier." And
34 Jacobcal : Cool show... Their training looks a lot more intense then ours at CO. Boy is F9 strict! I thought the whole house thing was kinda cheesy and one of th
35 F9fan : Well, they were kinder with the woman who got locked out (they told her to try again in six months) than with the man who didn't take his physical. No
36 Phllax : I have to agree with Tifoso that the termination of the woman who got locked out was over the top. As I posted on another web site's forum, fire code
37 Wjcandee : Can I just say that everyone always has a reason for screwing up. Maybe it's a good one, maybe it isn't. This woman was obviously not exactly hard-cor
38 PRAirbus : Keep in mind this is a "TV/Reality show"...I'm pretty sure it's been edited. Also, not all airlines have the same training curriculums. A major intern
39 Mats : I was captivated by the show. The brief mention of Pam Gardner's death was so chilling; I almost didn't want to watch further, but I found the show so
40 Lincoln : Code [in California and Ohio, can't speak for Colorado, but if they've adopted the BBC or NFPA 101, should be] requires that egress doors be operable
41 VgnAtl747 : Personally I didn't think the show was as good as Airline- I found it really predictable. You just knew that when they told everyone not to be late or
42 MidnightMike : It is to early for equipment training, the first week of training is kind of like an introduction to commercial aviation, learning airline code, the
43 Post contains images Tifoso : IMO, they could have atleast mentioned some of the airline industry terms, and discussed Frontier's history, both of which were exam topics. Not ever
44 Lincoln : I'll admit that it was somewhat predictable but not in the same annoying way that airline is (To start: Drunk Pax followed by pointless Human Interes
45 Tifoso : Airline is a reality show. That's the kind of stuff you would expect from it. The Flight Attendant show tries to differentiate from Airline by being
46 AsstChiefMark : I can't believe people failed the 24-hour time exam and even the airport code exam. If I got accepted to be a FA, I'd take it upon myself to study tha
47 SkyHigh777 : Are they going to mention Pam's passing away on the show? The only reason I had known about it was from reading this thread before watching the show l
48 Post contains images MaverickM11 : It's the most underwhelming "reality show" house EVER. Wow. You just took it to a whole new level.
49 DL Widget Head : I agree. I think Frontier was a bit harsh and inflexible in this instance. Apparently, this was the first day, in fact the first hour or so of traini
50 Post contains images NZblue : LOL! Thanks for pointing that out I can assure you that my autograph will only DEpreciate from here on out! In all seriousness, I was very, very plea
51 Wjcandee : She died a long time after filming was complete.
52 Post contains images Lincoln : Hey, I did say I was a security geek , plus, IMHO, looking at the hardware (door locks, etc) and equipment (fire alarm strobes, smoke detectors) can
53 King : I hope it says Frontier likes to run an on-time airline. Frontier doesn't consistently rank at the top of on-time rankings by hiring perpetually late
54 King : I thought someone told me Frontier pays its Flight Attendants.
55 Wjcandee : She died on December 29th, 2005. It presumably takes several months to edit the video.
56 Post contains images AirplaneBoy : I have yet to see the show as I'm currently on the road for several days. From what I've read and heard, it sounds like training was just as strict an
57 Wjcandee : AB: Well said. At my first job after my final year of school, the first day, we were told that the work that we did and the responsibilities that we h
58 Lincoln : One of the only things I remember from driver's ed was the owner's lecture on the first day of class. "In a polite society, if you are 'On Time' you a
59 JamesJimlb : i saw the first episode it was okay but i want to see the one with jet blue because i've never been on it
60 DL Widget Head : Perpetually late. The woman was late by 4 minutes one time. This does not indicate a trend on her part. Since this was the first day and she had a le
61 Post contains images United_fan : I liked the first episode alot . Much better than the rants and drunks on WN's 'Airline' . The trainee Heather is hot,too
62 Tifoso : Is Jet Blue also coming out a television series?
63 Aa757first : This looks a little dramatic. Is it Princeton or Frontier Flight Attendant School? AAndrew
64 AsstChiefMark : There are several things she could have done to make sure she wasn't late. When she exitted, she could have checked the door to see if it would lock
65 Mariner : They have no great need to be bothered about punctuality at Princeton. When you're dealing with aircraft, airlines and schedules, it is a different m
66 Luvfa : I did not see the show as I am out on a trip right now. I have it TiVo'd at home. As far as the Trainee who got let go for being late it is justified.
67 Mariner : It is a curious hoo-haa - it is the thing that everyone has commented on. Yet no one seems bothered when passengers who arrive late for check-in - on
68 MSYtristar : One thing about F9's corporate headquarters that some people do not tell you while in training: all outside doors are locked and can only be opened wi
69 Lincoln : Maybe it's just because I'm used to working in buildings that are "secure"*, but as I said in reply 40, I think the assumption should be--any time yo
70 MSYtristar : Oh without question. The thing is, lots of new hires for FA's or whatever are still pretty young. You would THINK that people would know things like
71 Post contains images ATCme : I saw the show the other night and it was great! One thing that seemed kinda harsh was having to memorize a 2 minute speech, lots of airline terms (ai
72 LUVRSW : Anyone with half a brain knows that on occasion doors can lock behind you. No sympathy.
73 Slider : Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You can already see the friction between the 52-year old lady Suzanne (?) and the younger folks- generational frict
74 Post contains images Lincoln : Hey... I am 21 and I know that (Yes, I realize I may be somewhat abnormal in more ways than one). Just because I'm still fixated on the point, while
75 Bobster2 : I thought the airline was supposed to screen out the losers BEFORE hiring them. Why is it necessary to fire people on the first day? Why weren't they
76 Lincoln : Tell me about it. This program would be infinitely better without her whining/mothering/etc. (she seems like she has good intentions, but...). Unfour
77 LUVRSW : Me Likes Stacy...total Hottie! Annie E....you are gorgeous!!! I should start an Annie E. fan thread!!
78 SHUPirate1 : I would like to know how Suzette passed the safety demonstration test in the first episode when she said "Smoking is not PROHIBITED on this aircraft".
79 Post contains links USAFHummer : So what was the deal with the ropes course thing? Is that a standard part of the training, or was it just done for the show? The fact that Karen, one
80 Dreamflight767 : I think Heather is very hott. I'd fly F9 if I knew she was going to be my FA.
81 Wjcandee : I'm actually enjoying this show. What kind of blows my mind is how people, even people this age, can't figure out how to zip it and not complain. They
82 Gman3 : When I went through United's Ken and Barbie Boot Camp, people in other classes were dropping like flies. The wierd thing was, when someone was let go,
83 Tundra767 : Tell me about it!
84 GentFromAlaska : Many companies or corporations run these types of courses to promote team building and team play.
85 USAFHummer : Thanks, I'm aware of that, but I was just asking about Frontier specifically... Greg[Edited 2006-01-21 00:04:39]
86 Post contains images Tifoso : She may a plant to spice up the show a bit Wasn't she supposed retake the safety exam; I wonder what the results were. I do remember seeing her in th
87 Wjcandee : Heather is only externally "hot" by comparison, IMO. Frankly that older instructor Michelle is more dimensionally hot. But I also think that "hot" has
88 Rdwelch : Not to bring up the subject again, but if you remember when the trainee came back to the class late, she did not say anything to the instructors, or a
89 Lincoln : True, she did loose a little bit of respect over that one, but in her defense, I don't think many people appreciate how much skill is involved in pil
90 Dreamflight767 : I must have missed that comment of hers. When I say "Hott," I mean physically. Unfortunately, by the sound of her comment, she won't make it much hig
91 Wjcandee : It went by pretty fast. Fortunately I have one of those DVR things on my cable, so I can just push and get the last 5 seconds when I miss something o
92 NZblue : To answer your question, I'm featured in the background...where I belong! In the first two episodes, I'm sitting next to William in the main auditori
93 Post contains images United_Fan : That Heater is sooooo hot Nuff said.
94 Type-Rated : I noticed that Suzette wasn't shown doing the high up walk or rock climbing up to the "swing". I wonder if they made her do it to? Anyone venture to g
95 Post contains images Tifoso : She probably did the course, but it was not shown on television. Suzette could be seen in the in-flight training session that was covered in the epis
96 Dreamflight767 : Heather is still hott.
97 Slider : So is William as much of a headcase as he comes across? Man, that guy is a trainwreck! And Sharon is a hottie too.
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