Dreamflight767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 147 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 30803 times:
I just saw a commercial on the Travel Channel. It seems to resemble the reality show "Airline." However they follow Flight Attendants as they go thru the hiring and training process. I saw a number of logos (Southwest, jetBlue, and Frontier) so it looks as though they visit the various airline training facilities.
The first show starts next Thursday. I thought it looked interesting and wanted to share.
NZblue From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 639 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 30775 times:
Though I cannot say much about it due to the non-disclosure agreements we all had to sign (my class was the one that was filmed for this very show), I can tell you that it exclusively follows the 6-week training program at Frontier Airlines, and the show is titled "Flight Attendant School". I've seen the commercials myself...in fact, today I found myself watching the Travel Channel just to see the commercials! So far, I've seen two different commercials, and the more I see them, the more excited I am to see the show, even though I know how it turns out in the end
A full line up of air dates and times can be found on the Travel Channel website. The show features 18 half-hour episodes and will run (as far as I know) for nine weeks.
Hope you all enjoy watching it as much as I enjoyed going through it!
It's an entirely different kind of flying; all together.
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5841 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 30504 times:
This is what's wrong with Airline, too much CSAs dealing with passengers, and not enough things such as F/A training, pilot training, maintenance, pilots going over flight plans in ops, central operations deciding when to cancel flights, etc.
One of the most interesting things I've seen is learing how DL handles connecting bags at ATL. I saw that on either Discovery or TLC.
I'm looking forward to the new show on Travel Channel.
Type-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30160 times:
I imagine that since the F/A's in this show have now graduated and are online there will be more than a few "You're the guy/girl on that TV show!" comments from passengers.
I think this show will be interesting to say the least!
9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29987 times:
Quoting Ckfred (Reply 6): This is what's wrong with Airline, too much CSAs dealing with passengers, and not enough things such as F/A training, pilot training, maintenance, pilots going over flight plans in ops, central operations deciding when to cancel flights, etc.
The only problem with your sensible request is that it would be difficult to make each one of those areas trashy enough to generate the required ratings that would make the whole effort profitable.
King From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 29853 times:
Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 13): understand that the VP of Inflight at Frontier died unexpectedly while the show was being filmed. It'll be interesting to see how its handled.
This is true. Pam Gardner was with Frontier for 14 years I believe. I have met her at Frontier's GO in DEN. She actually passed away the same day the Travel Channel ran the first commercial for the new show. I think it was a week or so ago. She was in Houston at the time. It's been tough for many people in the company. Everyone knew her.
I believe the company held a memorial for her on Monday. The premier episode of "Flight Attendant Training" was shown at her memorial.
I will be interested too to see how her passing is handled on the show. I do beleive Pam would have wanted the show to go on. She loved Frontier.
QQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2340 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 29621 times:
Brutal, brutal, brutal... I can't beleive they let the one flight attendant go on the first day because she got locked out! Hello... surely a circumstance not within her control. Anyway... most airlines run a tight ship when it comes to training, but compassion goes along way too.
And what's with the climbing wall and walking a balance beam some ten+ feet in the air? Crazy!
The views expressed are mine alone and do not necessarily reflect my employer’s views.
Apodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4487 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 29509 times:
Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 17): Brutal, brutal, brutal... I can't beleive they let the one flight attendant go on the first day because she got locked out! Hello... surely a circumstance not within her control. Anyway... most airlines run a tight ship when it comes to training, but compassion goes along way too.
You saw what Pam said quite clearly as I did. She told the class that they have to be in the room at a certain time, after which the doors would be locked. If you weren't inside the doors at that time, you were canned, no ifs ands or buts.
Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 19): They'll be shown up as the glorified waiters & waitresses they really r !!!
If anyone on this forum still thinks that after seeing the entire season of this show, they need to have their head examined.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 6189 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 29469 times:
Just watched both episodes. My DVR will tape the rest from now on.
I didn't know until the end of the second episode that Pam had died. I spent both episodes marveling at her people skills and her firm-yet-fair demeanor. It was also obvious how much her instructors admired and respected her, and learned from her how to handle difficult situations. I also noted that she didn't palm off the firing on others, but made a point to handle that part personally, which is impressive.
I don't know whether Pam was an f/a prior to being an executive, but that's not an uncommon path in this business. I pulled up Frontier's press release from her appointment in 1998 at age 43, and it doesn't mention her background. To say that she died of a "blood clot" is a bit disconcerting and makes me wonder whether this is an example of that particular occupational issue in the airline biz, or whether it was something totally unrelated. It doesn't look like Frontier is saying much about that. But it will certainly make me remember to take my Ecotrin tonight.
She seems like a wonderful person, and I know that she leaves huge shoes to fill.
Type-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 29436 times:
I thought the show was extremely well done, considering what it could have been if they hadn't planned it well. I actually found it quite suspenceful.
I was kind of in shock when I saw the memorial photo of Pam at the end of the show. That took me by complete surprise.
NZBlue, I saw you sitting in there a time or two!
: May she RIP... From what was shown of her on the program she seems like she was a wonderful person/manager. On a brighter note, this program is almos
: Pam, started at PanAm, Rocky Mtn., and Continental Express prior to Frontier.
: Great show. I was however expecting CEO Jeff Potter to come in and introduce himself to the class in the first episodes. I also hope he will attend th
: I thought the show was very well done, more like a documentary than a "reality" show. I have to wonder, however, if the "crash pad" they showed is som
: Very sad to hear of the news about Pam, one look at her and you know we was all business and had a lover for the company she worked for. http://www.le
: When my old g/f was training for ML years ago, they made her memorize a bunch of cities that ML didn't fly to. The reasoning was that interline and c
: The housing was specifically done for the show I believe. For most of the other trainees, they either lived in the area or had already relocated.
: The doors that you are talking about are those of the classroom where all the students were housed. In the show, the person got locked out of the ent
: By the looks of the house they are staying in and the situations bound to arise,this looks like it should have been named "Real World: Frontier." And
: Cool show... Their training looks a lot more intense then ours at CO. Boy is F9 strict! I thought the whole house thing was kinda cheesy and one of th
: Well, they were kinder with the woman who got locked out (they told her to try again in six months) than with the man who didn't take his physical. No
: I have to agree with Tifoso that the termination of the woman who got locked out was over the top. As I posted on another web site's forum, fire code
: Can I just say that everyone always has a reason for screwing up. Maybe it's a good one, maybe it isn't. This woman was obviously not exactly hard-cor
: Keep in mind this is a "TV/Reality show"...I'm pretty sure it's been edited. Also, not all airlines have the same training curriculums. A major intern
: I was captivated by the show. The brief mention of Pam Gardner's death was so chilling; I almost didn't want to watch further, but I found the show so
: Code [in California and Ohio, can't speak for Colorado, but if they've adopted the BBC or NFPA 101, should be] requires that egress doors be operable
: Personally I didn't think the show was as good as Airline- I found it really predictable. You just knew that when they told everyone not to be late or
: It is to early for equipment training, the first week of training is kind of like an introduction to commercial aviation, learning airline code, the
: IMO, they could have atleast mentioned some of the airline industry terms, and discussed Frontier's history, both of which were exam topics. Not ever
: I'll admit that it was somewhat predictable but not in the same annoying way that airline is (To start: Drunk Pax followed by pointless Human Interes
: Airline is a reality show. That's the kind of stuff you would expect from it. The Flight Attendant show tries to differentiate from Airline by being
: I can't believe people failed the 24-hour time exam and even the airport code exam. If I got accepted to be a FA, I'd take it upon myself to study tha
: Are they going to mention Pam's passing away on the show? The only reason I had known about it was from reading this thread before watching the show l
: It's the most underwhelming "reality show" house EVER. Wow. You just took it to a whole new level.
49 DL Widget Head
: I agree. I think Frontier was a bit harsh and inflexible in this instance. Apparently, this was the first day, in fact the first hour or so of traini
: LOL! Thanks for pointing that out I can assure you that my autograph will only DEpreciate from here on out! In all seriousness, I was very, very plea
: She died a long time after filming was complete.
: Hey, I did say I was a security geek , plus, IMHO, looking at the hardware (door locks, etc) and equipment (fire alarm strobes, smoke detectors) can
: I hope it says Frontier likes to run an on-time airline. Frontier doesn't consistently rank at the top of on-time rankings by hiring perpetually late
: I thought someone told me Frontier pays its Flight Attendants.
: She died on December 29th, 2005. It presumably takes several months to edit the video.
: I have yet to see the show as I'm currently on the road for several days. From what I've read and heard, it sounds like training was just as strict an
: AB: Well said. At my first job after my final year of school, the first day, we were told that the work that we did and the responsibilities that we h
: One of the only things I remember from driver's ed was the owner's lecture on the first day of class. "In a polite society, if you are 'On Time' you a
: i saw the first episode it was okay but i want to see the one with jet blue because i've never been on it
60 DL Widget Head
: Perpetually late. The woman was late by 4 minutes one time. This does not indicate a trend on her part. Since this was the first day and she had a le
: I liked the first episode alot . Much better than the rants and drunks on WN's 'Airline' . The trainee Heather is hot,too
: Is Jet Blue also coming out a television series?
: This looks a little dramatic. Is it Princeton or Frontier Flight Attendant School? AAndrew
: There are several things she could have done to make sure she wasn't late. When she exitted, she could have checked the door to see if it would lock
: They have no great need to be bothered about punctuality at Princeton. When you're dealing with aircraft, airlines and schedules, it is a different m
: I did not see the show as I am out on a trip right now. I have it TiVo'd at home. As far as the Trainee who got let go for being late it is justified.
: It is a curious hoo-haa - it is the thing that everyone has commented on. Yet no one seems bothered when passengers who arrive late for check-in - on
: One thing about F9's corporate headquarters that some people do not tell you while in training: all outside doors are locked and can only be opened wi
: Maybe it's just because I'm used to working in buildings that are "secure"*, but as I said in reply 40, I think the assumption should be--any time yo
: Oh without question. The thing is, lots of new hires for FA's or whatever are still pretty young. You would THINK that people would know things like
: I saw the show the other night and it was great! One thing that seemed kinda harsh was having to memorize a 2 minute speech, lots of airline terms (ai
: Anyone with half a brain knows that on occasion doors can lock behind you. No sympathy.
: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You can already see the friction between the 52-year old lady Suzanne (?) and the younger folks- generational frict
: Hey... I am 21 and I know that (Yes, I realize I may be somewhat abnormal in more ways than one). Just because I'm still fixated on the point, while
: I thought the airline was supposed to screen out the losers BEFORE hiring them. Why is it necessary to fire people on the first day? Why weren't they
: Tell me about it. This program would be infinitely better without her whining/mothering/etc. (she seems like she has good intentions, but...). Unfour
: Me Likes Stacy...total Hottie! Annie E....you are gorgeous!!! I should start an Annie E. fan thread!!
: I would like to know how Suzette passed the safety demonstration test in the first episode when she said "Smoking is not PROHIBITED on this aircraft".
: So what was the deal with the ropes course thing? Is that a standard part of the training, or was it just done for the show? The fact that Karen, one
: I think Heather is very hott. I'd fly F9 if I knew she was going to be my FA.
: I'm actually enjoying this show. What kind of blows my mind is how people, even people this age, can't figure out how to zip it and not complain. They
: When I went through United's Ken and Barbie Boot Camp, people in other classes were dropping like flies. The wierd thing was, when someone was let go,