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AZ Incident At MAN Today  
User currently offlineHighpeaklad From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 538 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

At 15.45 AZ260 an E 170 from MXP made a low level flypast with undercarriage down along runway 06L . 5 minutes later it landed with the fire engines in attendance. It pulled up in front of terminal 3 for a few minutes and was then escorted to its stand at terminal 2 by the fire service.
Anybody any info? Hydraulic/ undercarriage problems? Are Az having problems with their E170's? I think there have been cancelled flights reported on here.

Chris


ps. I think I must be jinxed. Last time I went to the aviation viewing park an Eastern Airways J31 made a single engine landing. Perhaps it would be best if I stop going !


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User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4357 times:

Maybe the gear wasnt indicating as locked down, so low level flypast for tower to look then confirm if gear was down or not.

Glenn



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User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Quoting Highpeaklad (Thread starter):
Are Az having problems with their E170's?

AZ seem to be having quite a lot of problems with their 170s. Perhaps they should put the mad dogs (MD-87s) or 319s back on the route! The flights have been cancelled many a time lately, usually a result of the 170 going tech in MXP. There must be something wrong with just AZ'z aircraft as most other 170 operators haven't had this many problems with them, although LO have had a couple of cancelations in the past!

Matt


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4668 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 2):
Perhaps they should put the mad dogs (MD-87s) or 319s back on the route!

And then put the 170's where? they won't just park them, plus the fact that mad dogs (MD-82's, they don't have any 87's) or airbusses are more expensive to operate because they are bigger (more fuel....)



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User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4251 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 3):
(MD-82's, they don't have any 87's)

Sorry, after being up since 2am and working 12 hours, my memor slips a bit.

I was just thinking that AZ need to sort the 170s out. They are getting quite a bad reputation at MAN for not showing up. Many days i have seen a queue at the AZ ticket desk with pax waiting to be re-routed.

Matt


User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4125 times:

I seen that happen just after we pushed our Monarch back, seemed weird, was going quite fast too. When I was walking back through security, I seen the fire service go to the end of 06L waiting for it to come back round.

This evening's AZ262 MXP-MAN, has been cancelled, so tomorrow's AZ263 won't depart, they could ferry in an aircraft though.

Mark



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User currently offlineSpeedbird19 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 449 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3909 times:

They ferried in an aircraft this morning, EI-DFL, the old one was parked up with a burst front tyre, the nose wheel indicator wasnt showing as locked aparently, so the low level pass would of been for the ATC staff to see whether the front wheel had locked, but apparently it burst on landing. The AZ263 went on time this morning though  Wink


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User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3898 times:

Quoting Highpeaklad (Thread starter):
I think I must be jinxed. Last time I went to the aviation viewing park an Eastern Airways J31 made a single engine landing. Perhaps it would be best if I stop going !

Let me know when you're next down, and I wont fly in Big grin only messin'  Wink

Scott  Smile



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User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

Quoting Speedbird19 (Reply 6):
They ferried in an aircraft this morning, EI-DFL, the old one was parked up with a burst front tyre, the nose wheel indicator wasnt showing as locked aparently

'The old one' is EI-DFJ, its parked on 241 nose out, its actually the right hand side main gear inner tyre thats burst, looks a mess, went and had a little look today lol.
The low fly pass was to confirm wether the gear was down, as Speedbird19 said

Mark



Retrofitted Blended Winglets - The Future Is On The Wing
User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3801 times:

Claire, i had one of your passengers off yesterdays canx flight who really wasnt impressed with AZ yesterday. Had been re-rerouted via AMS to BOM with KL and NW!

Matt


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7359 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3700 times:
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Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 5):
This evening's AZ262 MXP-MAN, has been cancelled



Quoting Speedbird19 (Reply 6):
The AZ263 went on time this morning though

Not surprised as AZ262 arrived at 2116 on Saturday!

Anyway, there were 70-odd passengers and 4 crew on board the AZ260.

David


User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3618 times:

Quoting David_itl (Reply 10):
Not surprised as AZ262 arrived at 2116 on Saturday!

AZ262 is a nightstopper, STA 2130, AZ263 departs next day STD 0930, and normally doesn't go on time

Quoting David_itl (Reply 10):
Anyway, there were 70-odd passengers and 4 crew on board the AZ260.

The AZ E170 always has 4 crew, and the max load is 70, so you just approximated

Mark



Retrofitted Blended Winglets - The Future Is On The Wing
User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3574 times:

Jetset, were u pushing the Monarchs that were under the level 13 viewing area. Spotted em and apeople waling around, proberbly saw ya walking around. I was there to buy some badges to put on my work ties. Good to see AME there.

We must of just left there before it all happened. Hope all ok


User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Quoting Trekster (Reply 12):
Jetset, were u pushing the Monarchs that were under the level 13 viewing area. Spotted em and apeople waling around, proberbly saw ya walking around.

It was on G-MRJK on Saturday off stand 31, doing a charter to ALC. Which is right at the top of pier C if you look at it from level 13. Did you see the BD A330 G-WWBB on stand 26 while you were there? Had to replace a large part in the APU, a long delay on that.
Was on stand 24 this afternoon which is right under Level 13 basically, on G-OZBK to BCN.
Yeah TF-AME the old work horse back on SFB charters again.

Mark



Retrofitted Blended Winglets - The Future Is On The Wing
User currently offlineSpeedbird19 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 449 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 9):
Claire, i had one of your passengers off yesterdays canx flight who really wasnt impressed with AZ yesterday. Had been re-rerouted via AMS to BOM with KL and NW!

Sounds about right!!! They did a load of FIM's last night lol I was on this mornings with some of last night pax, they seemed happy though which was good!!!



Planeprincess
User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3496 times:

Im a prat. Did not look at the date this was posted. I was there today, not yesterday lol

User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1460 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 2):
There must be something wrong with just AZ'z aircraft as most other 170 operators haven't had this many problems with them, although LO have had a couple of cancelations in the past!

I disagree, and so do most UAL/UAX employees that have to handle the E170 in DEN and in ORD. Seems like every other flight there is some probel with the plane...they came up with a nickname for it in DEN...but I cant recall what it was.


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 3283 times:

I really feel sorry for AZ at times - they don't seem to have a great deal of luck with these aircraft, or many things, come to think about it.

What I don't really understand is how one airline can struggle with a certain type, perhaps I could understand it if they were difficult to maintain, but I would assume they won't be?

Poor Alitalia have everything go wrong for them - hopefully one day they will sort all their problems out.

Adam


User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

The aircraft EI-DFJ, looks to be staying at MAN for a bit, its actually parked in between 2 stands 241 and 243, as it was pushed straight back from stand 213, the supervisor on shift at the time told me, that the right main gear was moving about a lot when it was being pushed back, so seems its damaged the landing gear as well as damaging a tyre.

Mark



Retrofitted Blended Winglets - The Future Is On The Wing
User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7359 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2977 times:
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Well I hope the BACX engineers get a nice look at it as I would like them to get a new fleet of tech aircraft to play with - they must be sick to death by now of having to deal the daily problems with the DHC8 and ERJ145!

David


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