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Bmi & The 767-300ER  
User currently offlineMonkeyboi From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 457 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4944 times:

Hey all....

Just read this article on atwonline.com:

"Bmi will begin daily London Heathrow-Doha service by the end of March aboard an A330-300 wet-leased from Qatar Airways and a thrice-weekly LHR-Jeddah service April 26 using its own 767-300ERs......"

Does anyone know about bmi obtaining the 767? Or maybe it was just a typing error by atwonline?

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User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4854 times:

Quoting Monkeyboi (Thread starter):
Does anyone know about bmi obtaining the 767?

Bmi are getting are 767-300ER from Arkefly (or whatever their name is now) in Holland whilst one of their 330s goes for heavy maintenance in MNL i think it is. The 767 is also rumoured to take over the MAN routes to LAS, BGI and ANU for a while.

Matt


User currently offlineDutch122 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4823 times:

Yes the B767 PH-MCV is the reg going to be for BMI.
Has already the tail black and it maybe going to be into Star Allianca colors soon, is there someone who is able to confirm.

rgds

Dutch122


User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2360 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4693 times:

Yes, it will be leased April 06-April 07 as far as I know.


Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

Can a 767 fly MAN LAS????

WOW


User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3762 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4600 times:

Quoting Trekster (Reply 4):
Can a 767 fly MAN LAS????

Yes

Good luck to Bmi with the 763, I would love to see a 767 in full Bmi colours  Smile

I wonder if bmi will announce another Gulf destination in 2006, maybe DXB or BAH!

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

Quoting Trekster (Reply 4):
Can a 767 fly MAN LAS????

why not?

MAN-LAX was a daily BA route on a 763. Similar distance. The charter airlines also operate the 763 into Mexican and Caribbean destinations from MAN.


User currently offlineZB330 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4317 times:

B742,

You will not see the 767 in full BMI colours. The aircraft will operate for BMI in Star Alliance colours. It has been painted recently in the basic star alliance colours. At this moment it is still waiting for the STAR ALLIANCE titles.

Cheers, ZB330


User currently offlineMonkeyboi From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 457 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4266 times:

Does anyone know whose flight/cabin crew it will use?

Will the cabin be kitted out in bmi's configuration with premium economy, inflight chef etc etc? or will they make another attempt at commercial suicide and not deliver on what they advertise?


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4222 times:

I am crossing my fingers that Bmi add Dammam. There is only LH and KL now from Europe and no flights at all to London. A twice weekly schedule could work. BA used to fly DMM-London daily with the 777!!!

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineAceFreighter From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

Dammam-London. Used to be daily by BA - now no flights. Used to be 4-5 per week by Saudia - now no flights.
Isn't there a message here ??
Most passengers seem to be quite happy driving over the causeway to BAH to fly cheaper from there.


User currently offlineCloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 640 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3954 times:

Quoting Monkeyboi (Thread starter):
"Bmi will begin daily London Heathrow-Doha service by the end of March aboard an A330-300 wet-leased from Qatar

Is this a code share, or is Qatar actually leasing them an A330, and will it be in BMI colors? Given Qatar is expanding like crazy, I don't see how they can lease anybody anything.



Boston, USA
User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3762 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

Quoting ZB330 (Reply 7):
B742,

You will not see the 767 in full BMI colours. The aircraft will operate for BMI in Star Alliance colours. It has been painted recently in the basic star alliance colours. At this moment it is still waiting for the STAR ALLIANCE titles.

I no, I was just saying it would be great to see one in full bmi colours  Smile

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 9):
I am crossing my fingers that Bmi add Dammam. There is only LH and KL now from Europe and no flights at all to London. A twice weekly schedule could work. BA used to fly DMM-London daily with the 777!!!

I agree, I hope to see DMM and DXB added soon!  Smile

Why did BA drop DMM?

Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 11):
Is this a code share, or is Qatar actually leasing them an A330, and will it be in BMI colors? Given Qatar is expanding like crazy, I don't see how they can lease anybody anything.

It's kind of a wierd deal, QR will lease Bmi an A330-300, which will operate in QR colours and with a QR crew, only it will have a Bmi flight number  Smile

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineZoheb From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3506 times:

Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 11):
Given Qatar is expanding like crazy, I don't see how they can lease anybody anything.

Accordint to their website: http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/abou...essreleases.aspx?year=2005&rid=823

"bmi will also commence a daily service to Doha from Heathrow in the Summer of 2006. The service will commence on 26 March and, subject to government approval, will be operated under a wet lease agreement with Qatar Airways. At the same time bmi's existing codeshare agrement with Qatar Airways will be expanded to allow bmi to sell Qatar Airways flights from Heathrow to Doha under bmi's flight code. This will further consolidate the presence of bmi at both Heathrow and in the Gulf region and mark another major step in the global reach of the airline".


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7258 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

An application has been made by bmi to the CAA for the government approval required to operate the 763 and the 330:
http:/www.caa.co.uk/docs/213/726.pdf
This application gives lease dates and registration details.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4208 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2930 times:

PH-MCV is still flying for ArkeFly at the moment, but it seems it has more technical problems/delays then what it is flying  frown  This week ArkeFly had to lease a Air Plus A310 and Hapag Lloyd 738 to back up their schedule caused by a technical delay of the 763 at BJL.
I hope bmi made a good choice with this a/c Big grin

Rgds
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6957 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2921 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 12):
QR will lease Bmi an A330-300, which will operate in QR colours and with a QR crew, only it will have a Bmi flight number



Quoting Cloud4000 (Reply 11):
Given Qatar is expanding like crazy, I don't see how they can lease anybody anything.

QR has found a sly (and unethical IMHO) way around the bilateral with the united kingdom. Basically this allows them to increase frequencues using a BD flight number.



The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6957 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 15):
I hope bmi made a good choice with this a/c

Just like they did last year with the 757 - what a success that was.



The world is really getting smaller these days
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