Atmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 39 Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2358 times:
Quoting RICARDOAB (Reply 6): Maybe now the USA may consider revising its trade embargo on Iran, and they will be allowed to source spares for their aircraft.
Uhm, why would the US allow Iran to source spares for jets used by the Iran's Revolutionary Guards? And why assume that this crash is an accident?
ConcordeBoy is a twin supremacist!! He supports quadicide!!
StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5425 posts, RR: 49 Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2317 times:
Quoting RICARDOAB (Reply 6): Maybe now the USA may consider revising its trade embargo on Iran, and they will be allowed to source spares for their aircraft.
Just a little bit of ill informed,politically inspired Anti American rhetoric from RICARDOAB??
From the China Daily story....
"The television said the plane was a Falcon jet, which is the preferred aircraft of high-ranking military officers in Iran."
Perhaps the French should sell some spares to the Iranians... or perhaps better yet we should all wait until there is an informed analysis of what actually caused the crash!!
CO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2313 times:
Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2280 times:
Air-crashes are always sad events and - regardless of political or ethnical preferences - victims should not be subject to cheap rethoric.
If military ,Islamic guards or simple tourists- all dead deserve our respect and thoughts.
Iran does not have a brillant track-record in air-safety -very true- so everything possible should be done to improve those figures .
Europeans and americans had close ties to Tehran several yeras ago and used the regimes in place to fit their own politics .( May I recall that the CIA submitted fake plans for the construction of a nuklear device some years ago -but the errors were immediately detected by the iranians and they could use the "good "part of the plans for their own benefit..)
It is much to early to pronounce any comments on the reasons for the crash- so let's wait and comment once the facts are known...
StuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2237 times:
Quoting RICARDOAB (Reply 6): Maybe now the USA may consider revising its trade embargo on Iran, and they will be allowed to source spares for their aircraft.
I jumped straight over from seeing this story on CNN to A.net to look for it because I knew DAMNED WELL someone would start this kind of crap! Sure enough, quite predictable!
And once again, I will say that if the sanctions are causing problems for Iran they should modify the behavior that put the sanctions in place or begin designing and producing their own aircraft so they can stop blaming someone else for their own problems.
Condolences to those that perished and their families.
Atmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 39 Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2198 times:
Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 13): And once again, I will say that if the sanctions are causing problems for Iran they should modify the behavior that put the sanctions in place or begin designing and producing their own aircraft so they can stop blaming someone else for their own problems.
They're blaming weather at this point. If it isn't weather related, we'll probably never know anyway considering the persons involved.
ConcordeBoy is a twin supremacist!! He supports quadicide!!
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 7754 posts, RR: 26 Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2169 times:
According to the newsticker of a German newspaper the Falcon ran out of fuel because it could not land at the original destination because of bad weather and did not reach a diversion airport.
Facts are - French build airplane, hence no embargo "victim" and even if it was a Herc, they have enough fuel in Iran, they just have to filll the aircraft up properly.
Anyway, it is amazing how people immediately jump up to the embargo BS, seems like US bashing is the most popular sport worldwide nowadays.
StuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2120 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 15): Anyway, it is amazing how people immediately jump up to the embargo BS, seems like US bashing is the most popular sport worldwide nowadays.
Yes, and thank you for the observation from your perspective.
Unquestionably, criticism is sometimes justified. But unfortunately there are those that view everything that happens with an eye toward how they can blame one person, entity, or country for all of it.
The US is a big target because the US takes action on a lot of issues and those actions are usually high profile- if not because of the action itself then because of the fact that we have a free and open media that will exploit those actions if it can profit from them.
The same applies to "US bashers" here on A.net, too, in that they think they can earn respect from others if their criticism is looked upon as something that others can rally behind. It's the "feeding frenzy" or "rioting crowd" type of effect.
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1982 times:
Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 13): I will say that if the sanctions are causing problems for Iran
Although unless we know the official version.
But generally.
Don't fly Unairworthy Aircraft or source from Alternatives.I don't think Sanctions can be blamed always.
regds
MEL
Semsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1877 times:
Beaucaire speak for yourself. These were "military" personel. Not civilians. Iran denies the holocaust and wants to wipe my country off the face of the earth. That's life / their destiny.
The funny thing is that the military folks were part of the "Jerusalem Brigade". Pathetic.
It's high time that the Iranian regime close all their airports and ground their fleet as flying in Iran is clearly dangerous. They can travel by bus instead. It is irresponsible of the Mullah regime to put their people in constant danger.
And now we will have those bashing the US about the embargo. The US embargo is justified. It was a French plane; not a US one. More evidence that Iranian pilots need more training.
Gatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1808 times:
Quoting RICARDOAB (Reply 6): Maybe now the USA may consider revising its trade embargo on Iran, and they will be allowed to source spares for their aircraft.
Only a matter of time before this BS was brought up...first of all, you don't even know the aircraft type!
Quoting RICARDOAB (Reply 9): I picked up on in a previous discussion
Way to think for yourself. If you had seriously read that thread, you would've known not to bring the embargo up again
Usflysagain From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 28 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1774 times:
Quoting RICARDOAB (Reply 6): Maybe now the USA may consider revising its trade embargo on Iran, and they will be allowed to source spares for their aircraft.
Here we go again...
For those of you who would like to understand more about Iranian history and politics as well as life under the regime I suggest you read the following books.
In the Rose Garden of the Martyrs--A memoir of Iran by Christopher de Bellaigue (a Brit journalist who married a Persian Woman and is now living in Tehran)
Reading Lolita in Tehran--A memoir in Books by Azar Nafisi (former Iranian English literature professor in Shiraz who was exiled by the regime for her teaching of Western lit)
From the authors perspective, Iran in not the rosy place many people make it out to be; however understanding the countries history a bit helps to understand the stance the government takes in world politics today.
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