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AA To Discontinue HOU - Hobby  
User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6516 times:

From today's Jetnet...

---AA TO DISCONTINUE SERVICE TO HOUSTON HOBBY---

Tom Del Valle, Vice President - Customer Service, U.S./Canada Division, and Regional Managing Director Franco Tedeschi met with employees at Houston’s Hobby Airport (HOU) Friday to announce American’s decision to discontinue service at Hobby, effective April 3, as one of several moves intended to help restore profitability. "We are committed to supporting our people throughout this transition," said Del Valle. "Their contribution to American and the Houston community is sincerely valued and appreciated." Station employees were informed of options, including possible opportunities at Bush Intercontinental Airport (IAH), where AA will continue to operate. American Eagle will continue to serve Hobby.


Will the LGA-HOU flight be discontinued or transferred to IAH?

AJMIA


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

Wow first YX then AA they are losing some carriers recently. Will the STL-HOU flights stay?


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User currently onlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2933 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6481 times:

What destinations does AA/AE fly from Hobby?

User currently offlineN844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6434 times:

Oh no -- this sucks. I was looking forward to flying HOU-LGA numerous times next summer for work. The late afternoon HOU-LGA flights were great, and Hobby's a really convenient airport. I'm going to miss AA service there.

The non-WN terminal at HOU was deserted most of the time from what I could see; I wonder what it'll be like now that AA's flighs are gone. Maybe the city could somehow entice them to come back? I doubt it, but I wish they could.



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User currently offlineStl1326 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6411 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 1):
Will the STL-HOU flights stay?

I would think it would still be operated, because the article sounds like it is only talking about mainline flights. Though I'm not so sure. MAH4546, knows a lot about American. He will probably be able to answer this question.


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 984 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6365 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 1):
Will the STL-HOU flights stay?

Well... at least WN will still offer 7 daily non-stops with mainline equippment!  Smile


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33044 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6335 times:

The Austin-Houston Hobby-LaGuardia flight will be ended. The St. Louis and Dallas service remain. AA used to be bigger at Hobby than Intercontinental. In the mid-1990s, for example, they flew 4x daily Miami-Houston service, as they still do today, but 3 flights went to Hobby and only one went to George Bush. Today all four go to IAH.


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User currently offlineN844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6314 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
The Austin-Houston Hobby-LaGuardia flight will be ended. The St. Louis and Dallas service remain. AA used to be bigger at Hobby than Intercontinental. In the mid-1990s, for example, they flew 4x daily Miami-Houston service, as they still do today, but 3 flights went to Hobby and only one went to George Bush. Today all four go to IAH.

This is very upsetting. However, I wish the best of luck to AA and I hope this works out for them. I know I took the HOU-LGA flights on more than one weekends where the plane was close to deserted; here's to putting that MD-80 to better use elsewhere. Still, I'm going to miss the service.



New airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. -Gordon Bethune
User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6313 times:

I am sure all 5 people who were using it are deeply hurt by this news.

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6075 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
The Austin-Houston Hobby-LaGuardia flight will be ended.

Any indication where the two pairs of freed-up LaGuardia slots are going to be used?



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User currently offlineFleet Service From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 623 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5963 times:

Probably going to see additional LGA-MIA frequencies.LGA-MIA goes to ten daily in Feb.We're running eight daily as it is.


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User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5944 times:

Airlines are always pulling out of HOU, but the airport is seldom affected. I remember when Texas International (aka "Texas Treetop") pulled out in the late 70's. I thought that would affect HOU, but it didn't. AA's departure won't either.

I love HOU. It's a great airport with a great history. And it's great if you're going to Galveston for some sun.



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User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5860 times:

I am just STUNNED that nobody has blamed this on the Wright Amendment modifications yet.

Looks like AA has taken down about five times as many mainline routes as they are adding at DAL.

It's all WN's fault.


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 13):
I am just STUNNED that nobody has blamed this on the Wright Amendment modifications yet.

Looks like AA has taken down about five times as many mainline routes as they are adding at DAL.

It's all WN's fault.

Look at ISP PVD and MHT and you will see what I call the "inverse southwest effect". Personally though, these airports are better off without an airline like AA, and better off focusing on other airlines that will provide growth.



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User currently offlineSaigonhouston From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

Will the HOU-ORD flights stay?

User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5661 times:

Quoting Saigonhouston (Reply 15):
Will the HOU-ORD flights stay?

I don't think AA or Eagle has flown HOU-ORD in the past 20 years.


On another note, will AA consolidate its IAH operation to be all-mainline? Eagle currently flies a few of the DFW-IAH flights.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33044 posts, RR: 71
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5630 times:

Quoting Fleet Service (Reply 11):
Probably going to see additional LGA-MIA frequencies.LGA-MIA goes to ten daily in Feb.We're running eight daily as it is.

MIA-LGA is already at 10x daily, with an 11th daily SaSu.



a.
User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5616 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 16):
On another note, will AA consolidate its IAH operation to be all-mainline? Eagle currently flies a few of the DFW-IAH flights.

Seeing how HOU-DFW is already all Eagle, we can presume the LGA and AUS flights are disappearing (maybe AUS stays on as Eagle???) therefore not necessarily effecting the IAH-DFW market.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

I've always been curious as to the demand on the AUS-HOU segment. I wouldn't imagine that the flight saw high loads thanks to WN's numerous daily roundtrips. It seems like AA is simply trying to put the planes back to where money can be made.

User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2175 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5599 times:

First off...sorry for the HOU crew who are going 'on the road again' to follow the job.

How much more is there? I mean just last week it was New England getting the AA hammer with large cuts and layoffs...now HOU/Hobby. All at the same time the upper mgt is going to give itself bonuses for keeping the stock value up, not profits, which is causing even more controvers within the company.

Are there other areas of the country seeing service reduction as well?


User currently offlineAA787 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5579 times:

While HOU is a more convenient airport for central Houston it doesn't make sense to operate out of two airports in the area. AA doesn't have enough flights to warrant two stations. However I am curious where the two LGA slots will head to. Hopefully some place new, but unfortunately I doubt it.

AA787



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User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5485 times:

I'm thinking that the flights being canceled are actually a LGA-AUS flights that needs to stop at HOU to satisfy the LGA perimeter rule. Now that B6 will be operating into AUS, AA does not see as this being profitable anymore.

It does open up HOU to B6 non-stops from JFK though. Those E-190's would be perfect on that route. B6 could also look at JFK-DFW-LGB now that AA is out of the DFW-LGB market. Add SAT and B6 would be lookin' fat in Texas.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5285 times:

Is STL-HOU AA Connection or Eagle?


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User currently offlineN844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 21):
I'm thinking that the flights being canceled are actually a LGA-AUS flights that needs to stop at HOU to satisfy the LGA perimeter rule. Now that B6 will be operating into AUS, AA does not see as this being profitable anymore.

The AUS-HOU-LGA is an ungainly flight, but why pull out now, or in April rather, a full eight months before B6 starts operating? I guess they're in a hurry to get HOU shut down.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 18):
I've always been curious as to the demand on the AUS-HOU segment. I wouldn't imagine that the flight saw high loads thanks to WN's numerous daily roundtrips. It seems like AA is simply trying to put the planes back to where money can be made.

I've seen that plane come in some days with single-digit load factors, picking up the vast majority of its traffic at HOU. So there's very little demand there. But even when there's a lot of AUS-LGA traffic, never more than a handful deplane in HOU. Some anecdotal evidence anyway, for what little it's worth.

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 12):
I am just STUNNED that nobody has blamed this on the Wright Amendment modifications yet.

Looks like AA has taken down about five times as many mainline routes as they are adding at DAL.

It's all WN's fault.

Works for me. I need someone to blame right now  Wink



New airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. -Gordon Bethune
User currently offlineMrSTL From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5045 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 22):
Is STL-HOU AA Connection or Eagle?

AA Connection- Chautauqua

[Edited 2006-01-10 21:04:39]

25 ScottB : It's AmericanConnection. Only two dailies, and this is currently the only AA-coded service between STL and Houston (STL-IAH was dropped a while back)
26 JFKLGANYC : How long before B6 steps in out of JFK to HOU or IAH? There is no competition now. PJ
27 Cjpark : [ That is pretty much a given, this to will be blamed on the modifications to the Wright Amendment. Everything is WN's fault. Yet another facet of the
28 Post contains images KL662 : I can't really understand why HOU isn't really working for anyone but WN. If you live south of I-10, HOU is generally closer (and for many, significan
29 Fleet Service : Not exactly.953 is a DNO on Saturday and is replaced by 1571 which operates Sat/Sun only.Saturdays still only see ten daily as do Sundays. I'll look
30 Drerx7 : The thread title was almost a shock when I first read--then I realized, AA only flies to LGA and AUS from Hobby. So not too big of a loss if you ask m
31 Junction : Exactly, and I am surprised they were not discontinued long before this. I'm with ScottB in post 25 also - These flights along with DCA service form
32 Tornado82 : AA has cut service at a whole lot of airports lately, whether its cutting mainline to Eagle like PIT and PVD, or just up and leaving completely like t
33 StuckinMAF : WN kicked their ass in HOU and they'll kick their ass in DAL, too. I give AA 6 months in DAL, 1 year if they're really determined to lose some money.
34 ScottB : Not at IAH. Both AA and UA are three terminals away from their respective alliance partners, and there are no connections at IAH which wouldn't make
35 N844AA : I think this is probably right (though, seriously, what do I know?). I'm having trouble envisioning someone who would fly AA ... if only they served
36 MAH4546 : No, not the desert. They already have a very tightly used fleet. They have no spare planes, and new routes have to come by sacrificing old ones. They
37 SHUPirate1 : Presumably one of those new routes will come from LaGuardia...after all, they do have two slot pairs now, right?
38 COSPN : Mabe CO will give EWR-HOU another try ??? How many Seats per day does CO offer IAH-DAL v.s. IAH-DFW ???? Looks like a shift in favor of DAL
39 DfwRevolution : I wouldn't be so sure. I think the numbers speak for themselves: IAH-DFW Weekday: (11) ERJ145: 0F/53Y x 11 = 0F/583Y Total: 0F/583Y IAH-DFW Weekday:
40 SHUPirate1 : Who on earth puts 53 seats in their ERJ-145's? The only airline I know of that would even THINK of doing something like that is Ryanair...most airlin
41 Tornado82 : ERJ-145's are 50 seaters, 1 flight attendant.
42 COSPN : But I ment CO has really Grown DAL over the years of course DFW will always have more PAX but 500 a day...lots of seats....on RJ's
43 LGAtoIND : Now that CO has NYC- Houston all to themself, it would seem like a perfect time for B6 to start JFK-HOU nonstops. Does anyone know if there is gate sp
44 DfwRevolution : I think I counted one seat row twice...
45 Tornado82 : If I were CO I'd try DAL-EWR on the ERJ-145XR... and maybe even some other DAL-___ destinations outside of the Wright perimeter on the XR... just cha
46 Post contains links and images Thomasphoto60 : In regards to HOU, I did a little resarch on it's history post 1969. Seems the airport that was marked for death when the 'Big Airport' on the north s
47 N844AA : You can say that again. The non-WN concourse (C?) is a horribly depressing place around 3:00 p.m., whereas the WN concourse looks very nice from the
48 CMB320 : Speaking of success and failure at HOU, and just browsing through another thread speaking of the success of AirTran, it got me wondering how successfu
49 Sflaflight : That routing always interested me as one of AA's long standing non hubed routes. Sad to see that P2P go! How long has it really been around? Forever
50 ScottB : Actually, it started in the mid- to late 90's. It's not in my AA timetable from 11/1/1994. A telling indication of how much AA's Houston presence has
51 EnviroTO : I would think it would make more sense for AA to do the opposite of what it is doing at HOU and DAL. With AA's hub at DFW and a ton of connections an
52 MAH4546 : In 1994, I am pretty sure MIA service was 3x MIA-HOU and 1x MIA-IAH. Not positive. I know it was that for most of the early 1990s.
53 Post contains links PVD757 : http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/s...006/01/09/daily22.html?jst=b_ln_hl here's a link to a related article...
54 N844AA : "All of this is simply moving toward working toward returning to profitability," Smith says. "We can serve LaGuardia out of the Houston market, the bi
55 ScottB : All four MIA frequencies to Houston indicated I for IAH on 11/1/94.
56 28L28L : AA pulled all mainline service from HOU in Nov. '95 and were back in there Sep. '98
57 AJMIA : Although it has been about a week since it was announced that AA will pull out of HOU, the LGA-HOU-AUS flight has not been zeroed out in Sabre and is
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