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Swissair MD11 Experiences  
User currently offlinePanam From Switzerland, joined Mar 2000, 38 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1601 times:

Who had ever flown on an Swissair MD11?
Do you remember the Registration Number (e.g.HB-IWA),
or something special??
I' m gonna fly this summer to Atlanta on a MD11, and I'm a real great fan of the Swissair MD11.

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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1500 times:

I have flown many times on Swissair's MD 11, to JFK, ATL, LAX, ORD, SIN. I am also a great fan of it. I love the aircraft and I will miss it very much in 2004 when they are gone from SR.
I don't know all the registrations anymore, but I know I have flown on the IWF (Vaud) to ATL (I think 1997) which has crashed as SR 111 near Halifax. Thinking of this I always get a strange feeling   .


User currently offlineSKYTEAM From France, joined Nov 2009, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

Can anyone tell me what aircraft they are replacing the Great MD-11 wit?

User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

I think it's the A340-600s. I will miss the MD-11s with the comfy 2x4x3 config on the JFK-Geneva route. I'll be also sad because The Swissair MD-11 fleet could not retire in peace due to loosing one plane on Setempber 2, 1998 off of Nova Scotia due to electrical problems with the plane's on-board entertainment system with the defective Kapton wiring killing all 229 people on board.


"FUIMUS"
User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

At the moment SR has ordered 11 A 340-600. But they have to replace 19 MD 11. I don't know if they order more 340 or perhaps more 330-200 (at the moment they have 16 on order, 13 in use).

User currently offline777x From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

Didn't they clear the IFE system from fault in the SR111 crash - focus is now on the map lights in the cockpit

Regards
777x


User currently offlineRichie From Switzerland, joined Dec 1999, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

As a reminder, no speculation on air crashes unless some real report is out. And, on some we'll never know the reason.

Virgin A340:
howcome you know the reason and the Canadian CAB does not? Was it the Kapton wiring? Really? Did it spark? Or was the melting of the cables a cause of the fire due to other reasons?

777X:
well, the problem is, that in IWF there were no signs of burn in the insulation behind the F/Os reading lamp.

In short, they don't know what the problem was yet, and anything else is pure speculation.

But the aircraft are nice to fly (especially Business and the new First Class), and service is usually very good. I used to fly them a lot, but my usual route nowadays has a A330 on it, wich is very nice too.


User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1431 times:

I have flown this year with HB-IWM to LAX, and back with the first SR MD-11, HB-IWA. I like the MD-11, although it looks a little bit weird with the middle engine.

The MD-11 will be replaced with A340-600, of which 11 have been ordered so far. But with still some 10+ options and some options for the A332 I'm sure, we will see some more orders of one of those aircraft.

Regards
Gerardo



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User currently offlineSR3496 From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

I've flown several times with Swissair MD-11's. I like this aircraft! (registrations I can't remember, but I also flew SRAsia and that means HB-IWN or G).

Why does Swissair don't buy some small Airbuses 340 (200/300 versions)? This aircraft would be the right size for longhaul flights with few traffic.

SR3496


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

I've flown on HB-IWB(Graubunden) to ZRH and HB-IWC (Schaffhausen) back to LAX, interesting that I got to fly on the second and third MD-11's delivered in that order..

You're gonna have a great time flying on that plane, if you're flying economy make sure to pick a seat behind the wing (rows 30 or behind) that way you can get a nice view of the flaps and such.


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1399 times:

With the HB-IWC is funny story. HB-IWC is named by the city of Schaffhausen and in the city of Schaffhausen there is an famous watch company with the name IWC (International Watch Company).

User currently offlineShip 7004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1394 times:

hello!!
two years ago I flew on a MD-11 of swissair from genève to new york JFK. Flight was delayed 8 hours on the way out. I don't remember the registration, but it was the "canton de Fribourg".
On the way back, it was the HB-IWF "canton de Vaud", which crashed near halifax 3 weeks later.
It was my two better flights!
greetings


User currently offlinePatroni From Luxembourg, joined Aug 1999, 1403 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1375 times:

I just had the pleasure to fly once with a SR MD11. It was in 1995 (I think...don't have my notes handy here) between Zurich and Geneva. The aircraft came from Singapore and I was happy to get on it for the 45min domestic leg. Service on board was extremely friendly and we even got a little breakfast plus cookies plus plus plus..... In fact the SR crew offered more on that short hop than other airlines do on flights of several hours (NW A320, 5h between Memphis and San Francisco : 1 Muffin only....).

When I flew to JFK on 2nd September 1998 with KLM, we taxied along 2 SR MD-11's which were loaded at that time. One was the flight to Zurich while the other, HB-IWF, was supposed to go to Geneva... it was a true shock to read the next day it had crashed....

Brgds,

Thomas


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

ZRH, interesting note on HB-IWC, apart from that and HB-IOC (A321 named Lausanne, home of the international olympic committee IOC) is there any other plane who's name is related to the registration?

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1336 times:

Thanks SR 117, I did not know about HB-IOC (Lausanne). It is funny. What do you mean, do they do this on purpose or is it only by chance? I will "investigate" if there are other registrations like this.

An other one I know: The former 747-300 "Geneva" had the registration HB-IGE, GE is the official abreviation for the Canton of Geneva.


User currently offlineVH-OJO From Slovakia, joined Jan 2000, 238 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (14 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1331 times:

I flew on HB-IWE in August 1991 from ZRH-JFK. There was a last minute equipment change from a 747-357, but a good one for me. IWE was the latest MD-11 delivered to SR fleet back then, and this was one of its first revenue flights. The plane was brand new, smelled like it too - very pleasant flight.

User currently offlinePanam From Switzerland, joined Mar 2000, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (14 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1322 times:

Does someone know the registration of the (Swissair)MD11 that had the engine failure at Los Angeles this year???


User currently offlineHb-iqa From Switzerland, joined Dec 1999, 46 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (14 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1306 times:

HB-IWD had the engine failure in LAX.

There is not much to choose between the various SR MD-11s. Maybe a few interesting details ...

HB-IWR, IWS, IWT and IWU are the ones which were acquired from LTU last year.

Most of the fleet was delivered (to SR AND LTU) in 1991/92. IWN came in 94, IWO, IWP and IWQ in 97.



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