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User currently onlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3096 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3331 times:

Courtesy: The Parkersburg News

RegionsAir May Fly To Cleveland

http://www.newsandsentinel.com/news/...1202006_new02_regionsair011106.asp

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User currently offlineHigney85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

Yea Regions is based out of an airport just a few miles from me. I have alot of fellow instructors who work for them. They fly Jetstream 32's and Just purchased some sabb 340's and are looking to expand.

User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3293 times:

In another pending case, Regions has submitted the lowest cost proposal for EAS subsidized service from Jamestown, NY, and Bradford, PA, to Cleveland, switching the service from Pittsburgh.

DAL's reluctance to support a Cincinnati service makes me think that CVG service patterns are still under review.



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

C'mon Morgantown, agree! My prayers have been answered. Fly to MGW from ABE, on my favorite airline in my favorite plane for half the trip, and get OnePass miles!! That made my otherwise gloomy day!  Big grin

User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

hmm..Maybe Cle is getting bigger after all, this is todays news about the Continental baggage room expansion!

BMU Expansion Project: Continental, the TSA and the City of Cleveland have been working together to get approved our plan to expand the existing BMU. We have now received approval to proceed and will in fact be doing so this coming Monday, January 16, 2006. When complete, Continental will regain approximately 90% of the makeup belt area currently occupied by the TSA not to mention the fact that we will have a much improved inline baggage screening system/process. This means all bags will be pre-screened prior to being inducted onto our main makeup belt. This fact alone will go along way towards maintaining the integrity of our scheduled departures and our ability to sort and deliver locally check bags out to the departing aircraft. Construction for the expanded BMU will begin this Monday and will continue thru until approximately November 2006. The first weeks of the construction project will entail prepping the site for the building of the exterior shell. The exterior shell itself has an anticipated completion date of April 2006. The first order of business will be to move the current perimeter fence, demo the existing pavement, rerouting the BMU driveway entrances and the staging of the construction equipment and materials. The first change to the way we operate, specifically how we enter the BMU, will not take place until the few first days in February. During this initial phase of construction the TSA and Continental will work together to ensure a seamless transition. Everyone is asked to recognize the need to pay closer attention when traveling through or near the construction area and anyone seeing a potential unsafe area or act to get a member of the Leadership team involved immediately. Working Together Works!



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User currently offlineOptionsCLE From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

Great news that the baggage expansion is taking place! Another piece of that project was at one point planned to be an expansion of the meet and greet area outside of C security. Is this still the goal?

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3201 times:

What they need to do is take down the glass wall at the end of the check in area and extend the outside-security concourse into there with maybe some restaurants/shops. Heck you could even add check-in desks without changing much around.


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User currently offlineOptionsCLE From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3172 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 6):
What they need to do is take down the glass wall at the end of the check in area and extend the outside-security concourse into there with maybe some restaurants/shops. Heck you could even add check-in desks without changing much around.

We're talking about the same thing here. I don't believe there were ever supposed to be shops there but the terminal exit was supposed to be built out over the TSA expansion.


User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 6):
What they need to do is take down the glass wall at the end of the check in area and extend the outside-security concourse into there with maybe some restaurants/shops. Heck you could even add check-in desks without changing much around.

I think thats exactly what the plan is, because the baggage room is underneath that area and that is being expanded.



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3145 times:

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 8):
think thats exactly what the plan is, because the baggage room is underneath that area and that is being expanded.

Hmm... should be interesting. I'll hafta drive under there sometime when I have a break and see how things are going.



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3118 times:

The irony about this codeshare is that Commutair, who already is a CO connection carrier, didn't apply for this EAS contract with their smaller B1900's, that they already overfly MGW/CKB/PKB's general area with on their way to CRW.

User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Commutair tried to get JHW and BFD about a year ago. They were higher cost than Air Midwest or Colgan, not just because the CLE routes were slightly longer but on every other metric as well. Regions, on the other hand, is winning the JHW/BFD route outright on the lowest cost basis.

If CO goes ahead with a codeshare (and KarlB737's news citation makes that sound quite possible), they could be a good addition to CO's stable. From a passenger viewpoint, are Jetstreams any less comfortable than the Beeches?

Since Commutair last tried for EAS routes, they have reorganized quite a bit, but I don't know what that did to their costs. They did win Boston-Rutland, I believe; but they may have concluded they could not offer a competitive proposal on the CLE routes.

On the baggage topic, it's hard to believe CO could get much better in CLE. Unless I arrive at a very low-numbered C gate, my bags consistently beat me to the carousel.



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 11):
From a passenger viewpoint, are Jetstreams any less comfortable than the Beeches?

RegionsAir is buying Saab 340A's for this service, not the old Junkstreams. At least that was part of their proposal, and digging around their website it seems they're already making Saab manuals.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

Bradford civic parties have, at last (hope they had a nice Christmas), weighed in with their preference: Colgan to Dulles, which costs about a million more in subsidy than Regions to Cleveland. Sen. Spector has written a letter in support, which arrived at the DOT before Bradford's preference.  Smile


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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 13):
which costs about a million more in subsidy than Regions to Cleveland

Considering its OUR taxmoney going to this... the heck with that town of a population of like 7000, they go where it makes the most economical sense for the Federal Government, not where they want to go. If they don't like CLE, back to PIT they go.

It's ironic now that the formerly-maligned for picking Regions without a codeshare West Virginians are saving face and looking smarter than BFD.

If Colgan's (non EAS) ops @ ABE are any indication... they'll have a 60% on time rate, and about a 95% controllable completion rate as well... and occassionally they'll have 2 birds at a time dead on the ground in BFD awaiting mx... although whos to say Regions would be any better. I somehow think though that with the rules of EAS... Colgan might pick their non-EAS flights like ABE to cancel when some mx bugs creep up, because it costs them less money.


User currently offlineHigney85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2803 times:

yes they are getting the sabbs, I have some buddies who just got hired to fly them, i think training began this week as a matter of fact...only 8 month upgrade time and 12K a year FO and 20K a year capt...rough, but the costs are low for the carrier

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2801 times:

Quoting Higney85 (Reply 15):
and 12K a year FO and 20K a year capt...rough,

Rough... you can say that again. Dear God. $12k/yr is under the poverty level.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

Is the $20/12K some sort of probationary salary, such as during training or transition?


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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2645 times:

Anybody and especially the folks in Bradford who think the DOT will select Colgan to Dulles should read the opinion in this case in which Cedar City, Utah, preferred Sky West at a high cost over Mesa, the low bidder.

The low bidder won.

http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.c...m?documentid=383254&docketid=16395

Apart from the issue of carrier selection, CAL does seem to be playing hard-to-get on the subject of a codeshare.



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User currently offlineVEEREF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week ago) and read 2635 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 11):
are Jetstreams any less comfortable than the Beeches?

YES YES YES YES! After an hopur or so, the 1900 starts to get kind of small, but the J32 from the moment the engines start is a full-on assault on the senses! The noise, vibration and squirrely ride of the J-ball is legendary!


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

The DOT has decided to establish a pilot program to "force" codeshares in support of EAS cities.

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf95/384018_web.pdf

If you don't want to read all the discussion, the last paragraph has the operative language. Maybe Regions and Continental can be the first participants.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

http://www.mariettatimes.com/news/story/new88_222006124156.asp

This just may happen.



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

CO has announced internally that a codeshare agreement with Regions has been struck and that service to the West Virginia points will begin in May.


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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3796 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Wow... CRW will have B1900s to CLE and those other cities will have Saabs.. hmmm. Thats not cool.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 23):


Wow... CRW will have B1900s to CLE and those other cities will have Saabs.. hmmm. Thats not cool.

Size/seats for your city aside, my personal preference is a Beech, and like I often said I wish Commutair would have bid on this EAS from the get-go, they'd already be operating it.


25 Lincoln : Am I the only one here who has no intentions of flying a CommutAir-operated flight again? Every CommutAir operated flight I've been on has been delay
26 KcrwFlyer : where do you fly from? They seem to be pretty on time at Yeager.
27 Lincoln : CLE to points not Cleveland [most recent example is Fort Wayne, IN / FWA]... I haven't really flown them enough to speak authoritatively but with 100
28 Post contains images Tornado82 : I've never had problems with Commutair, specifically to FWA and SBN, beyond wx delays for TSRA+ over the terminal... but that's not Commutair's fault
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