Daddy1 From Australia, joined Apr 2000, 57 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2508 times:
If SQ gets the go ahead to fly from Australia to the west coast of America, will Sydney be the hub they fly from, or maybe they will think different and take on say the mel - lax route...a penny for your thoughts please.daddy1
SunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1710 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2238 times:
Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 2): According to what I read in The Australian, IF they approve it, they will get BNE-LAX and MEL-LAX first, with SYD-LAX to come much later.
What equipment would they use MEL-LAX ? Westbound, the -300ER would probably give them the best percentage of max payload .
N1120A From France, joined Dec 2003, 22548 posts, RR: 78 Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2229 times:
Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 3): What equipment would they use MEL-LAX ? Westbound, the -300ER would probably give them the best percentage of max payload .
The -300ER would be fine for the route. It has plenty of range and more capacity than anything else in their fleet that would not have to take weight restrictions (with a 744, they would get killed on CASM by the QF 744ERs and A380s). Then again, if the A380 does meet range targets, they could use that as well
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Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7029 posts, RR: 41 Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2216 times:
No way are SQ (or anyone else) flying A380s from MEL or BNE to LAX. For one thing the flight there are back is so bloody long, 35 hours including ground time at the destination. You could do two SIN-SYD or SIN-NRTs in the same time frame. And the loads aren't even close to being there. 777 is the ticket. Although I didn't think SQ had much experience with long range twins, all their long flights (Europe, N America) are 747-400s. I thought the 777s were for SIN to Penang, Manila, Ho Chi Minh?
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N1120A From France, joined Dec 2003, 22548 posts, RR: 78 Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2206 times:
Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 5): Although I didn't think SQ had much experience with long range twins, all their long flights (Europe, N America) are 747-400s. I thought the 777s were for SIN to Penang, Manila, Ho Chi Minh?
Not true at all. SIN-TPE-LAX has been a 772ER for quite a while now. Also, when SQ had 2 A345s in MX, they were running the SIN-LAX flights non-stop with the 772ER and stopping on the way back
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Jacobin777 From United States, joined Sep 2004, 12518 posts, RR: 55 Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2150 times:
Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 5): Although I didn't think SQ had much experience with long range twins, all their long flights (Europe, N America) are 747-400s. I thought the 777s were for SIN to Penang, Manila, Ho Chi Minh?
nopes.....SQ flight#16 (earlier flight) flies SIN-ICN-SFO on a 777-200ER....
Tsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 1998 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2138 times:
Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 5): Although I didn't think SQ had much experience with long range twins, all their long flights (Europe, N America) are 747-400s. I thought the 777s were for SIN to Penang, Manila, Ho Chi Minh?
In addition, SIA operates the B777 to some European cities Manchester, Athens, Copenhagen and Amsterdam, and soon to Moscow.
Other long range SIA 777 flights around the world include TPE-LAX as mentioned by N1120A and SIN-CHC. I believe the previously operated SIN-AMS-ORD and SIN-HKG-LAS routes were also long ranged.
Planemanofnz From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2137 times:
Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 5): Although I didn't think SQ had much experience with long range twins, all their long flights (Europe, N America) are 747-400s. I thought the 777s were for SIN to Penang, Manila, Ho Chi Minh?
SIN-AMS
SIN-CPH
SIN-Rome
SIN-AKL
SIN-CHC
SIN-MAN
SIN-CPT
Los Angeles, San Francisco and Vancouver all get 777's aswell.
Jacobin777 From United States, joined Sep 2004, 12518 posts, RR: 55 Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2097 times:
Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 9): Los Angeles, San Francisco and Vancouver all get 777's aswell.
SFO and YVR do, but for the winter season, SQ sends an A345 to LAX..
Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 8): I believe the previously operated SIN-AMS-ORD and SIN-HKG-LAS routes were also long ranged.
that was on a 744 with AMS-ORD being very empty most of the time..I would like to see them start it again....maybe on a 777..maybe SIN-ICN-ORD would be good..
Kaitak744 From United States, joined Jul 2005, 1882 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1986 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 10): Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 9):
Los Angeles, San Francisco and Vancouver all get 777's aswell.
SFO and YVR do, but for the winter season, SQ sends an A345 to LAX..
No, SFO and LAX get all-year-round daily 747 and 777. LAX gets a 3rd flight (A340-500). The SFO 747 stops in HKG, the 777 in ICN. The LAX 747 stops in NRT, the 777 stops in TPE.
QANTAS077 From France, joined Jan 2004, 5001 posts, RR: 35 Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1953 times:
as mentioned in a post, i also mentioned this in another thread, SQ will fly from Brisbane and Melbourne, it won't be for a while until Sydney is granted to SQ...it was expected to come last month, the govt here keeps defering the decision.
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Jacobin777 From United States, joined Sep 2004, 12518 posts, RR: 55 Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1628 times:
Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 11):
No, SFO and LAX get all-year-round daily 747 and 777. LAX gets a 3rd flight (A340-500). The SFO 747 stops in HKG, the 777 in ICN. The LAX 747 stops in NRT, the 777 stops in TPE.
SFO=14 flights weekly.
LAX=21 flights weekly.
correct, i should have been more comprehensive in my comments....(note- I didn't say that SFO doesn't get the 747-was responding to if SFO/North America gets a 777).....but I should have included your comments..
6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 2673 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1598 times:
SQ will operate the B773ER if they are granted rights to the USA from Australia.
As for the timing of the service and ground time.... well, lets just wait and see.
just because QF has aircraft sitting on the ground for over 12 hours doesn't mean that SQ will.
They are too smart for that.
They will rotate aircraft coming in from SIN i suspect. Also, let's not assume they will fly to LAX.
eg:
SIN-SFO/LAX-MEL-SIN
5:00p SIN 2 7:25p SFO I SQ 2 1-Stop 773 18:25
or
5:05p SIN 2 7:20p LAX B SQ 30 1-Stop 773 18:15
QANTAS077 From France, joined Jan 2004, 5001 posts, RR: 35 Reply 18, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1391 times:
looks increasingly like SQ won't get what it wants, and just as i thought, the hanging of Van Nguyen seems to have had an impact...as Howard said to Lee, 'there will be lasting resentment from our country' looks like those words are ringing true..
Government protects Qantas over US routes
From: By John Masanauskas
January 16, 2006
THE Federal Government looks set to protect Qantas and deny access to Singapore Airlines on lucrative US routes.
The Herald Sun understands that Singapore's controversial execution of Melbourne drug trafficker Van Tuong Nguyen has been a factor in the air rights issue.
Nguyen was hanged on December 2 despite pleas by Prime Minister John Howard.
Mr Howard, a strong supporter of Qantas, is also concerned about the prospect of job losses if Singapore is given direct flights across the Pacific.
Both airlines have been lobbying the Government, with the trans-Pacific issue to be decided in a broad review of national aviation policy.
Qantas and US carrier United Airlines are the only airlines with non-stop US flights on the routes.
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