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A380 To YVR?!?!?!  
User currently offlineBenThePlaneHen From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 74 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7232 times:

Hello,  Smile
In the near future what airlines will be flying into YVR with a A380?
Also will the A380 visit Vancouver?

Thanks,
Ben


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User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1920 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7172 times:

Quoting BenThePlaneHen (Thread starter):
In the near future what airlines will be flying into YVR with a A380?

Don't know about YVR.
Air France plans CDG-YUL (wrong coast  Smile) when the A380 enters service with them, but that's not for tomorrow.


User currently offlineBoeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1844 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7061 times:

That would be interesting... The only possible airline Ican think of is LH. The 744 in the summer is usually full, so we could see a seasonal A380 to FRA. Can anyone think of any others?

User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6968 times:

Quoting BenThePlaneHen (Thread starter):
Also will the A380 visit Vancouver?

Why would it visit YVR? AC placed there long-haul order with Boeing not Airbus... This would not make sense for it to visit YVR or any airport in North America.



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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8197 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6961 times:

If Cathay get the A380 (or have they already ordered it? I think they're still sitting on the fence although there's no question that they will order it eventually, like BA), they might fly it to YVR. Maybe not immediately (that would be London, LA, Tokyo, Paris) but in the second tranche of destinations.

Btw Montreal will be one of Air France's first A380 destinations, maybe the very first.



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User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6917 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 4):
Cathay get the A380 (or have they already ordered it? I think they're still sitting on the fence although there's no question that they will order it eventually, like BA), they might fly it to YVR.

For all intensive purposes, I think Cathay would send the A380 to YYZ before they send it to YVR for obvious reasons.
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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8197 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6907 times:

Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 5):
For all intensive purposes, I think Cathay would send the A380 to YYZ before they send it to YVR for obvious reasons.

Possibly true, and as a major fan of Toronto that pleases me no end. But if it does go to Toronto, YVR will see it anyway, at least as a tech stop westbound (at the moment with the A340 I think the eastbound flights HKG-YYZ go nonstop most of the time with a flight time of 15h15 and all of the westbounds stop in YVR at dark o'clock for fuel and a crew change?).



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User currently offlineACYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6901 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 6):
Possibly true, and as a major fan of Toronto that pleases me no end.

I'd hate to see the landing fees for that behemoth! Yikes!


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8197 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6882 times:

Quoting ACYWG (Reply 7):
I'd hate to see the landing fees for that behemoth! Yikes!

If you're in Pegg City, I'm guessing it'll be a while - unlike your fellow Canadians in Toronto and Vancouver - before you find out firsthand. With the greatest of respect to your fine city, the rock n roll heart of Canada or so I'm reliably informed.



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User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6858 times:

Yes, YVR will see it regardless because an A380 has no hopes of making it out to YYZ nonstop for CX. I can definitely see it as one of the first routes CX will put the A380 on though, after LHR and LAX, perhaps.

User currently offlineAntiuser From Italy, joined May 2004, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6832 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 3):
This would not make sense for it to visit YVR or any airport in North America.

It'll probably get to MEM and SDF at some point, since UPS and FedEx both ordered A388Fs.



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User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 933 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6765 times:

As far as I know Singapore Airways will be the first airline to commercially launch the Airbus 380 in March 2006. Singapore is flying into YVR three weekly! So who knows we may see one visiting Vancouver in the near future.

User currently offlineJakob77 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6720 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 6):

The YYZ flight has changed its techstop back to ANC for over a year now and it stops both ways now whether winter or summer on the eastbound.


User currently offlineBenThePlaneHen From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6679 times:

Even if YVR will get the A380 we will not see it for some time because there have been no official preparations to accommodate the A380.

Thanks,
Ben Smile



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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6650 times:

Quoting Breiz (Reply 1):
Air France plans CDG-YUL (wrong coast )

Isn't YUL kind of not on a coast at all? (unless a big river leading to an ocean counts as a coast?)



CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1920 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6587 times:

quote=CanadianNorth,reply=14]Quoting Breiz (Reply 1):
Air France plans CDG-YUL (wrong coast )

Isn't YUL kind of not on a coast at all? (unless a big river leading to an ocean counts as a coast?)

CanadianNorth[/quote]

Of course Montreal is not on the Atlantic coast! I was referring to the East-West location difference. And it was meant as a joke !!


User currently offlineA360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6426 times:

Quoting Connector4you (Reply 11):
As far as I know Singapore Airways will be the first airline to commercially launch the Airbus 380 in March 2006.

It will be the first airline to commercially launch it, but just in the end of 2006.

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 6):
But if it does go to Toronto, YVR will see it anyway, at least as a tech stop westbound (at the moment with the A340 I think the eastbound flights HKG-YYZ go nonstop most of the time with a flight time of 15h15 and all of the westbounds stop in YVR at dark o'clock for fuel and a crew change?).

Unless the A380 completelly fails it's targeted range, it will be able to do YYZ-HKG nonstop both ways with no problems.

Quoting MarshalN (Reply 9):
Yes, YVR will see it regardless because an A380 has no hopes of making it out to YYZ nonstop for CX.

Really? CX does JFK-HKG (which has a route very similar to YYZ-HKG, but it's about 500km longer at about 13000km) nonstop both ways using an A340-600 (which has about 13900km of range).
The A380 has an estimated range of about 14800km.... so you telll me why on earth wouldn't it would be able to do YYZ-HKG nonstop.


Regards:
A360


User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6403 times:

Quoting Antiuser (Reply 10):
It'll probably get to MEM and SDF at some point, since UPS and FedEx both ordered A388Fs.

WOW! Really...?



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User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6067 times:

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 17):
WOW! Really...?

99.9999999999999%...You get the point!
Cheers,
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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5965 times:

Quoting Breiz (Reply 15):
Of course Montreal is not on the Atlantic coast! I was referring to the East-West location difference. And it was meant as a joke !!

Ok I see now!



CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineBoeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1844 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5930 times:

Quoting Connector4you (Reply 11):

You are right that SIA flies to YVR, but only out of INC. They are using a 772ER right now, so I doubt there is a demand for an A380 (Especially with AC and KL flying that route also).

Quoting A360 (Reply 16):
CX does JFK-HKG (which has a route very similar to YYZ-HKG, but it's about 500km longer at about 13000km) nonstop both ways using an A340-600 (which has about 13900km of range).

Doesn't the JFK flight actually stop in YVR? Or is there another JFK flight non-stop?

Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 5):
For all intensive purposes, I think Cathay would send the A380 to YYZ before they send it to YVR for obvious reasons.
Cheers,
Boeingfanyyz

I would have to disagree with you there... I think that if CX got the A380, YVR would see it before YYZ. Firstly because HKG-YYZ is a very long haul for the A380. Secondly, CX already has 3 flights per day to YVR (744, 343 and 346... sometimes changes). There would certainly be a demand for an A380, (to replace the 744), even if they had to eliminate one of the A340 flights. HKG-YVR is a huge market.


User currently offlineA360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 5526 times:

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 20):
Doesn't the JFK flight actually stop in YVR? Or is there another JFK flight non-stop?

No... CX has a nonstop HKG-JFK service both ways using a 340-600.... and by non-stop it means that it doesn't stop, so no, it doesn't stop anywhere.
I believe CX has other direct services but with stops.

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 20):
Firstly because HKG-YYZ is a very long haul for the A380.

Well... that just doesn't make any sense at all.... does it?

Very long haul for an A380?! Well, my friend, I've got to give you this terrible news.... the A380 is an aircraft made for long haul.

And I ask you this.... Would HKG-YYZ be very long haul for a B747-400ER (with it's inferior range compared to what is expected the A380 to have)?


Regards:
A360


User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3598 posts, RR: 66
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 5273 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 4):
If Cathay get the A380 (or have they already ordered it? I think they're still sitting on the fence although there's no question that they will order it eventually

I think it will be a very long time before CX orders the A380, if ever.



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User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 5218 times:

I just found an article at Aeroport De Montreal their new international jetty opens June 8th 2005. So its already open, they mention this new additional jetty will accommodate the biggest aircraft A380. They say the 380 will begin servicing the airport in 2007. Not bad so we'll have to wait and see AF 380 arrive in YUL in 2007. When will they get their A380?

Quote ( With 10 boarding gates providing direct access to aircraft and an 11th equipped with four docks for passenger transfer vehicles (PTVs), the new facility is able to accommodate the largest wide-body jets flying internationally, including the brand-new Airbus A380, which will begin serving Montréal-Trudeau in 2007 )

Here's the link. when you get to the link you'll have to scroll down or read the whole article. http://www.admtl.com/information_cen...?id=249&SearchType=AndWords&terms=


User currently offlineMilan320 From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 872 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 5065 times:

Quoting BenThePlaneHen (Reply 13):
Even if YVR will get the A380 we will not see it for some time because there have been no official preparations to accommodate the A380.

There is a budget and plans allocated to preparations for the A380:
Berg noted that the airport authority’s 10-year, $1.4-billion capital program, which was launched June 30, will add nine new gates at YVR’s international terminal by 2009. Two gates will accommodate the new Airbus A380. The airport-improvement fee helps finance the plan, which includes a $300-million contribution to the Richmond/Airport/Vancouver Rapid Transit Project.
http://www.straight.com/content.cfm?id=11468

And I'm sure YVR will see the A380 sooner or later, but I'd say by 2010 at the very latest - after all Vancouver will be hosting the 2010 Winter Olympics.

-Milan320



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25 A360 : AF defered the delivery of their A380's to 2008... they said they did it because thy were only going to start receiving them in the last trimester or
26 Gigneil : What? The A380 is going to visit a wide variety of US airports, since the plane is going to be flown here regularly. Tell me you're being sarcastic.
27 Boeing744 : That is a good point, I never thought about that. YVR is sure to see a passenger spike in 2010, so maybe we will see some A380s around then.
28 Post contains images Boeingfanyyz : For example... (i.e. airport and airline) Cheers, Boeingfanyyz
29 A360 : I don't know much about which routes will be flown be A380's but I can tell you some basic ones: AF to YUL as said befor. Qantas to LAX and maybe als
30 Gigneil : YUL will receive the AF A380 LAX will likely receive QF, VS, AF, LH, SQ, KE JFK will likely also receive VS, LH, and potentially AF MEM will see many
31 MarshalN : You're right, I wasn't thinking (actually, I think I did the conversion wrong and remembered the wrong specs --- didn't check again before posting).
32 Gunsontheroof : The only airports in North America I can think of that are prepping for the A380 are YYZ, LAX, SFO, ORD, MIA, JFK, SDF, MEM and ANC...I could be miss
33 AirbusfanYYZ : 1. SQ flies SIN-YVR via ICN. 2. AC and KE fly the ICN-YVR leg not KL. The only carrier that could justify an A380 into YVR is CX. I imagine they'll c
34 Post contains images Boeing744 : Sorry, my mistake, I meant KE.
35 Zvezda : This thread is rather amusing. AC are not the only carrier that fly to North America. Unless several airlines all cancel their orders (don't hold you
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