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What Routes For TG's New 777-200ER's?  
User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 5763 times:

Wikipedia lists that TG will take delivery of some 777-200ER's later this year.

Does anyone know (or can speculate) what routes these aircraft will be put on?

Also, the Wikipedia article references that these 772ER deliveries will coincide with the retirement of the MD-11's from the fleet. Does this seem reasonable?

The article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Airways_International

[Edited 2006-01-15 18:02:11]

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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6672 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5676 times:

I think they will fly the 777-200/ER to smaller citiies like ARN but increase frequency (currently 4-5 days a week with a 744). There has also been some talk that they would open up some new destinations in Europe like MAN and perhaps OSL. I could also see MXP and ZRH getting the -200/ER.

We will see.

The777Man



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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5643 times:

TG is looking at adding Berlin (TXL) and Manchester (MAN) and possibly JNB with their new 777-200ER's.

TG is also looking at adding seasonal destinations to Prague, Budapest and other Eastern European cities.

TG has said it would like to introduce MAN within the "next year" and wan't additional services into LHR, possibly 21 weekly (3 daily) or 17 weekly!

TG wanted to previously serve the route via India but now wants to serve MAN direct  Smile

I would expect the proposed new LHR flights would be depending on slots, but if granted I would expect 744 or 346's services  Smile

TG would also like to return to AMS, most likely with the 346's or 772ER's.

My Source - Thai Airways acting president Somchainuk Engtrakul  Smile

I think the introduction of OSL could also be a strong possibility  Smile

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5596 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 2):
TG would also like to return to AMS, most likely with the 346's or 772ER's

If or hopefully, when they return to AMS I hope it is with their a346's, because that would make them the first scheduled a346 operator in AMS!

Out of curiosity, is there a regular 773 operator at AMS?



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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5583 times:

What is the special connection between northern Europe and BKK? Is it (ahem) tourism alone? The cities mentioned are not really business centers compared to, say, Chicago.

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2893 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5567 times:

Anyone have any info what their interiors are gonna be like, IFE in economy etc...

User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2491 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5530 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 3):
Quoting B742 (Reply 2):
TG would also like to return to AMS, most likely with the 346's or 772ER's

If or hopefully, when they return to AMS I hope it is with their a346's, because that would make them the first scheduled a346 operator in AMS!

Out of curiosity, is there a regular 773 operator at AMS?

AMS will start in 2007, they released that in january 2005, and they said it will be flown by the A340-600....

nope there isnt a 773 regular operator at AMS... Yet. but not to long ago CX said that in the near future AMS will be upgraded with bigger equipment, so wouldn't suprise me if they send in the 777-300ER.

also Eva air will most likely send theire 777-300ER in the very near future. atleast that would be logical because they are replacing theire 747-400's with 7773 if im correct.

EK is said to be looking for slots at AMS, but they have so much different aircraft that the chance they will send a 777300ER is slim


User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5438 times:

Could the 772ER's do a BKK-ORD non-stop?

Or what about a BKK-SFO non-stop?

I think that the connection to either of these UA hubs would produce good feeder traffic for both TG and UA.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6672 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5420 times:

Hi Warreng24!

The -200/ER doesn't have the range to fly BKK-ORD/SFO nonstop. That would have to be flown by A340-500 or if TG would order 777-200/LR.

Thanks for the info, B742 and MauriceB!

The777Man



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5309 times:

Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 7):
Could the 772ER's do a BKK-ORD non-stop?

Nope

Quoting Warreng24 (Reply 7):
Or what about a BKK-SFO non-stop?

Yes, that's possible, as the route is shorter (by the Great Circle) than CO's NYC-HKG nonstop.

A high-MTOW one could do that route nonstop, but due to the still air, it'd be difficult to tote commercially viable payload on the return segment... though not impossible, particularly if it wasn't an airline as incompetent (in the USA market) as is TG.



...does anyone know the MTOW TG selected for these aircraft?


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3339 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5257 times:

The B772ER will also operate the MEL-BKK sector.
I think this will be the first sector TG will operate.

It will replace the A346 from Sept 2006 I believe, with the A346 being deployed elsewhere.

MEL and SYD may go double daily B772ER from Nov 2006, especially if the BKK-SYD-MEL-BKK flight is delinked.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5032 times:

What routes do their 772As currently fly?

User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4986 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 11):

At least

BKK-ICN
BKK-TPE-ICN
BKK-HKG-ICN
BKK-NRT
BKK-KIX
BKK-MNL-KIX
BKK-HKG
BKK-KUL

Also domestic and other regionals.



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4978 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 6):
AMS will start in 2007, they released that in january 2005, and they said it will be flown by the A340-600....

nope there isnt a 773 regular operator at AMS... Yet. but not to long ago CX said that in the near future AMS will be upgraded with bigger equipment, so wouldn't suprise me if they send in the 777-300ER.

also Eva air will most likely send theire 777-300ER in the very near future. atleast that would be logical because they are replacing theire 747-400's with 7773 if im correct.

Thanks Maurice!! I heard about that TG announcement, but wasn't sure if their going through with it. Interesting about EVA air though, didn't know they were probably going to replace their equipment with 773's. Same with CX. Aren't EVA's 744's that fly to AMS combi's? And if so, how will they compensate the loss of cargo? MD11F's?



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User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2305 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4854 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 1):
I think they will fly the 777-200/ER to smaller citiies like ARN but increase frequency (currently 4-5 days a week with a 744).

ARN is currently 6 weekly flights on 744. I don't see any reason to downsize to a 772 to get one extra flight. They can probably go to 7 weekly flights quite soon anyway.

Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 4):
What is the special connection between northern Europe and BKK

Lots of tourism, plus many Scandinavian men have their in-laws in Thailand. On some Scandinavia-Thailand flights, I've got the impression that 50 percent of the passengers are couples made up of a Scandinavia man and a Thai woman.



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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2978 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4766 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 2):
I would expect the proposed new LHR flights would be depending on slots, but if granted I would expect 744 or 346's services

Doesn't TG already have double daily service on BKK-LHR? LHR slots are highly prized so anything less than the largest aircraft at TG will not do. This means the 744 for now and the A380 when it is delivered.


Due to previous ETOPS problems, Asia-Europe routes seem the most logical as they have plenty of alternates available enroute. Unlike BKK-JNB which is almost all over water.


User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4714 times:

How many and when did TG order T7-200ERs ?

User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3339 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4446 times:

Six aircraft ordered about two years ago.

deliveries...

2 in 2006 (around august onwards) and the remaining four in 2007.


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