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User currently offlineTwoLz2Rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 452 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3352 times:

Why havent many airports adopted the dual jetbridges for the big planes like at AMS? it seems like it would help speed up boarding and deboarding. Also, does AMS use them on their MD-11's and 747's on a regular basis?

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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3331 times:

Duals are used at many airports but mainly the type that feed the front two doors. And soon you will see dual level bridges for the 380 popping up around the place. In fact there is already one at DXB. Notice the bottom right.


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User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3356 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3328 times:
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Think of cost and also, many airports dont have room to expand. as aiports expand, the use of dual airbridges shall come.

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User currently offlineTwoLz2Rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

is AMS the only airport with "over the wing" jetbridge for thier big aircraft?

User currently offlineMlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Quoting TwoLz2Rn (Reply 3):
is AMS the only airport with "over the wing" jetbridge for thier big aircraft?

I believe those stands were engineered to accomodate the many combis that KL has operated over the years.



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User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3261 times:

What about the dual bridges at DEN for TED that connect to the back door. I know that it is not for big aircraft, but I'm assuming those go over the wing.


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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

Quoting Lfutia (Reply 2):
Think of cost

I agree. I can imagine that jetbridges are very expensive, look at airports like FRA, I am sure that they already had replaced their butt-ugly jetbridges with something nicer.


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

Quoting TwoLz2Rn (Reply 3):
is AMS the only airport with "over the wing" jetbridge for thier big aircraft?

The IAB at JFK used to have them. Now T4 only has one jetbridge per gate, which I find somewhat curious.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 6):
look at airports like FRA, I am sure that they already had replaced their butt-ugly jetbridges with something nicer.

The ones at EWR are worse.

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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

I've heard jetbridges are pretty expensive, especially the dual jetbridges.

In my experience, many major European airports either have only a few dual jetbridges or even none at all.

I think one of the reason is space. Dual jetbridges need a large area which in many congested airports is probably not practical.

For some reason also, in some airports like BEY, they often only use of the two jetbridges. I assume because airlines may not want to pay the fees for the use of both and just pay for the use of one of them.

They do save on loading and unloading time though.

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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3023 times:

Dual boarding bridge really doesn't take up any more space than with only one if its a gate where a widebody can park. It's all about costs borne by the airport.
For example, a large majority of gates in Asia have two and perhaps three in the future because there are more widebody flights as a percentage.
Tokyo Narita doesn't have a single single boarding bridge gate!
This may be true for Singapore Changi too.

Of course, there's not as much need for dual boarding bridges in Europe or US but int'l terminals typically have some at major airports.


User currently offlineBCAL707 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2998 times:

It's interesting that at some smaller airports where tarmac boarding is still done (San Jose, California SJC), depending on the airline or ground handling agent, you will see the front and rear doors of a 737 (or similarly size aircraft) both open and in operation for boarding and de-planing, with the mobile stairs. Very quick way to get out of a 737! It's great. Therefore, obviously, saves a lot of time to board and un-board an aircraft.

However, some dual jetbridges meet up at one point, and everyone still bottle-necks in the same passageway. That's not much of a help.


User currently offlineTwoLz2Rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2981 times:

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I believe those stands were engineered to accomodate the many combis that KL has operated over the years.



Why would they spend the money to build them if the combis hold less passengers? were they built for the MD-11's too?


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

I think duel-jetbridges are useless. Most meet up at the same point in some airports, and others might lessen some congestion but the price for using both of them is expensive and worthless to some airlines.

It's really only useful if your a hub airline at that particular airport like KL at AMS.



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User currently offlineBeertrucker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2954 times:

WN at ALB uses duel jetways. One of the front door and one for the back door. On all 737's. They have them at both their Gates. Helps with unloading and they have it open on most of the loading. I don't know of any other airports that WN uses this at.

If you look close in the background of this photo you can see a jetbridge high in the air. That is so that the 737-700 you see in pic can get under it. it then will go to the back door. when a 737-300 comes in it stays lower cause of no winglet.


that about all i can think of right now.

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User currently offlineBenThePlaneHen From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2911 times:

I believe Vancouver has the prettiest jetbridges in the US terminal. They are clear and you can see right through them.
I also think it's neat that airports are getting 2 story jetbridges to accommodate the A380.

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User currently offlineA2 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

I believe dual jet bridge are useful on widebody aircrafts. Especially for unloading of passengers. The passengers on the right side of the plane can use to front door to exit, while passengers on left side of the plane typically use the second door to exit.

If I am not wrong, Changi airport is now upgrading some gates with triple jet bridge. One for upper level and two for lower level.

-A2


User currently offlineBeertrucker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

If you look at the pic I put again. To add to what I said before. The one in the air is for the plane in the pic. But if you look close above the plane. You see a blue slanted just before the tail. That is the height they keep it for a 737-300. And if you don't think it is a gate look close you can see the C3 sign which in ALB is on top of the jetway right at the end of it where it meets the plane.




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User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2743 times:

In AMS only the F-gates are equipped with dual bridges, and as far as KL goes they can be used only on the B747 and MD-11, not on T7 or B767.
When there's a storm (and that's often  ) they cannot be used, when the cargodoor of the B744-combi is still open it can not be taken off. So it is useful when boarding some flights but not at all times.

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User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3509 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

Quoting BenThePlaneHen (Reply 14):
I believe Vancouver has the prettiest jetbridges in the US terminal.

Vancouver is in the U.S. now?!? Sweet...



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User currently offlineMarkabcan From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

I know in Calgary (YYC) Westjet has one dual air bridge. Kind of cool to see the aircraft maneuver in!

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 18):
Quoting BenThePlaneHen (Reply 14):
I believe Vancouver has the prettiest jetbridges in the US terminal.

Vancouver is in the U.S. now?!? Sweet...

I think he means the Transborder terminal



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User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3492 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2569 times:

Could we say that CDG,especially T2 has dual bridges. Both fingers could be used for a single plane or two distinguished ones.


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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2551 times:

CO is using duals at IAH at some widebody gates but primarily I think it's used for first class passengers and the second door for coach passengers, at least that was how we boarded and deplaned last time I was on a widebody at those particular gates where duals were used.


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User currently offlineWnsocal From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2505 times:

wn has stopped using them in ALB last year.


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User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 6):
I am sure that they already had replaced their butt-ugly jetbridges with something nicer.

Yes, they have done a few, but not a lot.


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And the one's on T2 aren't bad.


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25 Post contains links HT : Yes, thy go over the wing - this was confirmed in the other thread News On DIA (by IceTitan447 Jan 15 2006 in Civil Aviation) They will be used by Te
26 GRRTVC : DTW has dual jet bridges at the WorldGateway on the 12 international swing-gates. They are used, the last I knew, only on the 747's to split First/Bus
27 Jog : Probably boarding time is also not that big issue on longhaul flights on wide-bodies. From my observation loading/unloading of cargo takes normally mu
28 Iowa744fan : They also had one gate at DAL that they used for rear door loading for the 737s. It was started as an experimental project back in 2003 to determine
29 ALB2ATL : Really? I haven't flown WN since 2004...dual jetways were in use then. I drive by the airport everyday on my way to work and It looks like they are s
30 Beertrucker : I used them in July 05 when I flew in there. SO last I knew they still there.
31 Dalb777 : Why will those dual bridges at AMS not work on a 777? Does it have something to do with the placement of the doors, or the size of the wing, or some
32 Carpethead : The new Terminal 2 at HND can use three boarding bridges as one of the bridges from the adjacent gate can swing around and allow pax to disembark from
33 Post contains links and images AirbusA346 : Why are the jetbridges at CDG, in such a mess. Why did they make one jetbridge connect to the building in one place and the other one, connect to the
34 BMED : Its proberley so that there is less congestion inside the jet bridge than if they were connected together. Will therefore mean that passengers can di
35 AirbusA346 : I just realized the jetbridges connected to the Thai 744 next to the US Airways A333 look even worse. Tom.
36 BlatantEcho : still in use by Southwest at ALB as of last month. didn't use the rear one, even though I should have. Seems better for offloading than onloading. Peo
37 FlyingHippo : You should see most of the major Asian airports using the dual bridges, they are absolutly needed since the smallest aircraft they'd see is a A332 or
38 M404 : From Jan 18 A2A Email of ATW -- Headlines United to double-board at Denver Wednesday January 18, 2006 United Airlines' Ted low-cost subsidiary said it
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