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User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

I just got accepted into Embry Riddle at Prescot and its expensive. I want to know if there is any way I can get an airline like Cathay or Etihad or Emirates to sponsor my training and college there. And then sign a 10 year contract or something with them. I know that CX has their cadet program and all but I wont be doing that, I just want to know if there is any way I can get some financial assistance from some nice big airlines. I am not really that interested in most of the US airlines. Maybe.....UA. There is the AF rotc which I am considering too, but I want to fly commercial jets ... especially wide bodies so bad and going into the AF as a pilot I am stuck there for 10 years.


ps.... Donations from A.netters for me to attend ERAU @ Prescot will be accepted too!

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User currently offlineDreamflight767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5163 times:
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"How in the hell am I going to pay for this?"

My friend, your concerns are shared amongst all of us poor aviation students. I have been in an aviation program for two years now and personally know of no US airline offering that sort of extension or we'd all be fighting for it. The most US airlines extend to students is the opportunity to intern. While some are paid, others are not. To the best of my understanding, it is going hungry, a minimal social life, personal expenses, and endless loans that eventually lead to the great reward of flying heavies.

I do commend you on your choice of airlines as they are superior (with the exception of Etihad). I have nothing against them and wish them all the success, but Etihad should be replaced with Singapore Airlines. This to keep the three best airlines of the world grouped together. In short, your current working knowledge will prove vital as I have noticed many aviation students (at least here) are ignorant about the airline industry and those who play a crucial role.

Soak up some sun for me, in exchange I'll send you some snow....

Best wishes from your rival school,

Aaron


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5140 times:

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 1):
"How in the hell am I going to pay for this?"

Student Loans.. just like 95% of us..

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 1):
going hungry

I recommend RAMEN NOODLES.. Here in Ohio, you can get 10 for 1 buck.

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 1):
a minimal social life

From personal experience, a Girlfriend can be a desaster.
Being single and drinking cheap beer (such as KEYSTONE LIGHT or NATURAL LIGHT) can help.


User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5105 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 2):
From personal experience, a Girlfriend can be a desaster.
Being single and drinking cheap beer (such as KEYSTONE LIGHT or NATURAL LIGHT) can help.

I refuse to stoop down to keystone!

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 1):
Best wishes from your rival school,

And which would this be?


User currently offlineAR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

And how much this is gonna cost you??
We are opening this kinda facilitie down here, with student loans.We are due to start ops in June.So far offering PPL, IFR, Controlled VFR, and nigh time.We will use a C-172 fitted with a Centurion engine.
The best part?Experienced instructors at almost half the price of the competitors(about 100-120 pesos the hour=35 to 40 U$S)
Going to teach commercial and multi-engine soon, but we are not done with the purchase of the ac.
You do the math...  Wink
BTW, we are already in touch with AR for the training of future pilots.

Mike



They don't call us Continental for nothing.
User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5043 times:

See, I have connections at Lufthansa so I feel I could easily fly for them..... my only down fall being my german blows balls.

Emirates is getting so many aircraft in the next 10-15 years thus making me believe they will have quite a few openings. Etihad is getting quite a few new aircraft too.

Singapore is well... Singapore, extremely high class and elegant and probably a great airline to fly with so they are on my list too.

I just wish I could get a 4 year internship/scholarship or something.

My ultimate flying goal is to be an A380 captain... nuff said.... or 748 captain. Airforce would give me the chance to fly the C5 or C17 which would certify me to fly 4 engine jets.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21523 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4971 times:

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 5):
See, I have connections at Lufthansa so I feel I could easily fly for them..... my only down fall being my german blows balls.

Same boat as me, minus the connections. I'm trying to figure out how to make my US PPL transfer over to JAA in such a way that all the money I've already spent on flight training in the US wouldn't be a total waste. LH does sponsorships - maybe ask your connections there what they recommend you do.

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 3):
And which would this be?

University of North Dakota.

-Mir



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User currently offlineTurnit56N From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4914 times:

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 3):
Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 1):
Best wishes from your rival school,

And which would this be?

Actually, every flight school out there is ERAU's rival school.  Smile Student loans and scholarships are how most students pay for flight training/college. If the price tag still seems out of reach, go shopping for another school. I'm not going to say anything bad about ERAU here, but if your goal is to be a pilot then there are hundreds of schools out there that can train you just as well and just as fast as ERAU for a fraction of the price.


User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1340 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4887 times:

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 3):
I refuse to stoop down to keystone!

Yet you expect the bankrupt US airlines to pay for your education....



Speedtape - The asprin of aviation!
User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4845 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 2):
I recommend RAMEN NOODLES.. Here in Ohio, you can get 10 for 1 buck.

10 noodles for $1!?!? Ohio is more expensive to live in than I thought... you know, you can get a lot more than 10 noodles per $ at many restaurants  Wink

To the OP's question, student loans are probably your best bet as (at least according to my financial advisor) they are 'good debt' [i.e. parts are tax deductable down the road]. Avoid putting any more on your credit card(s) than you can bay right now... bad debt.

Lincoln
[Who's financial advisor was somewhat disappointed when he found out I didn't have any student loans...]



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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2343 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4799 times:

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 1):
The most US airlines extend to students is the opportunity to intern.

I'm a high school senior right now and have applied to 3 very good schools where you can get a degree in aviation: University of Dubuque in Iowa, Oklahoma State University in Stillwater, and LeTourneau University in Longview, Texas. From what I've heard from LeTourneau and Dubuque, when you are in the spring semester of your junior year, you can get an internship with American Eagle flying between GGG (Longview) and DFW and from DBQ and ORD. Something to look forward to...

Quoting Wdleiser (Thread starter):
but I want to fly commercial jets ... especially wide bodies so bad and going into the AF as a pilot I am stuck there for 10 years.

If you have 20/20 eyesight, the AF might be the best option. You don't even have to stay in for 10 years (I think it's more like 6 years) and once you get out, most airlines prefer military service and will stick you on a widebody right away. If you just do it through places like Embry Riddle, you will most likely be flying narrow bodies on a regional carrier (i.e. American Eagle, UA Express)for about the first 6-10 years and as you become more senior, they might move you up a notch.
My dad was talking with a friend of his over here in Germany who is in the Air Force Reserves flying C-17s and he is a pilot for Delta in civilian life. He had to take a 55% paycut and he has been with the airline for 22 years...



"Drunks run stop signs. Stoners wait for them to turn green."
User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4749 times:

Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 10):
If you have 20/20 eyesight, the AF might be the best option. You don't even have to stay in for 10 years (I think it's more like 6 years) and once you get out, most airlines prefer military service and will stick you on a widebody right away. If you just do it through places like Embry Riddle, you will most likely be flying narrow bodies on a regional carrier (i.e. American Eagle, UA Express)for about the first 6-10 years and as you become more senior, they might move you up a notch.
My dad was talking with a friend of his over here in Germany who is in the Air Force Reserves flying C-17s and he is a pilot for Delta in civilian life. He had to take a 55% paycut and he has been with the airline for 22 years...

The AF has told me 20/20 is not needed as long as you have it corrected. I think it is like 20/60 is the worst your eyes can be prior to correction. The AF will not accept a person who has gotten Laser eye surgery done because they do not know the quality of the work the dr. who operated on you had done. The AF recruiters have told me that the AF... has doctors that are certified to give laser eye surgery. I would really like to fly the C-17's or C-5's just for the pure excitement of flying military heavies. Then later settle on down and fly for some major international airline. My uncle who works for Delta too and is a former AF fighter pilot told me to stay away from the airlines for now and go AF.


Still I will accept donations from any A.netter willing to help me with my ERAU education.


User currently offlineAv8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4702 times:

You have a long way to go before even *considering* what airline you want t fly for, get your ratings, instruct for a while, then start thinking about where you are going to apply. Dont fall victim to SJS (Shiny Jet Syndrome), enjoy the learning process and the folks you will meet along the way.  Smile

User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4677 times:

Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 10):
If you have 20/20 eyesight, the AF might be the best option. You don't even have to stay in for 10 years (I think it's more like 6 years) and once you get out, most airlines prefer military service and will stick you on a widebody right away

That's not true, you don't get to jump the seniority list because you came from the military, at least not in the states. The only place that would be true is an airline that flies an entirely widebody fleet, Emirates for example, but you'd still be at the bottom of the food chain.



PHX based
User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1427 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4657 times:

Welcome to the Association for Broke Students Trying to get through college.....but yeah sometimes you just gotta fight it out and eat cheap food, drink cheap beer, sign up for scholarships.....you might want to try www.fastweb.com it is a website that matches you with like 30 scholarships or so for you to apply.

Sometime you just gotta fight it out, as long as you get good grades you know that the light at the end of the tunnel is very nice...that's probably the only thing that keeps me geeting good grades and going



ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4627 times:

I work with education finance and helping students get scholarships and funding for college. The short answer to your question would be most likely not. It doesn't really happen that way in corporate America especially for an undergraduate degree even if there is an agreement to work after graduation. Most companies will only pay for a person's college education if you are already an employee through a tuition reimbursement/school fee program.

With that being said, there other ways to find money for college. The best way to start this is to speak with the financial aid office at Emby Riddle. They can help you with any paperwork and give you some guidence as to where to look for free money. For starters, and if you qualify, you could be entitiled for a gov't Pell Grant which would pay a portion, allbeit a small portion, of your education expenses. Outside of that, you'll need to hunt for a scholarship. Be prepared to work at this because corporate scholarships aren't simply handed out. You'll need to write an outstanding essay and have some good recommendations. There are a few good websites for searching - fastweb.com and supercollege.com. Do not go through an organization that charges you to find scholarships. They are usally scams and you shouldn't have to pay for any scholarship.

If you have exhausted all of these avenues, you can then apply for federal student loans. Although they are loans, the federally guaranteed ones are generally better than the private based, consumer ones. Also ask your school about work-study which is another source of money while in school. Again make an appointment with the financial aid office at Embry-Riddle and start the process.

Good luck.


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4604 times:

See I'm happy I earned 7,500 in scholarships at Daniel Webster. But I'm really not interested in going there, hopefully I'll here from JU soon.

Honestly as me and my parents talk about school frequently they said my best bet is scholarship and work study. Personally I believe those are my best options and ones I should focus on.

At JU at your junior-senior year transitional period you are allowed to get CFI ratings and fly for Comair academy in your senior year and have that money go towards the school plus the flight hours towards your 1,000 hour rating to get hired by one of the Companies that guarantee you like AE and Comair.



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User currently offlineAv8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

At JU at your junior-senior year transitional period you are allowed to get CFI ratings and fly for Comair academy in your senior year and have that money go towards the school plus the flight hours towards your 1,000 hour rating to get hired by one of the Companies that guarantee you like AE and Comair.

Do a search on "PFT". It isnt a job guarantee either its just an interview guarantee.


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4541 times:

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 5):
Singapore is well... Singapore, extremely high class and elegant and probably a great airline to fly with so they are on my list too.

If you dont have a cumulative GPA of 3.75 in your college education, forget SQ



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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2343 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4528 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 13):
That's not true, you don't get to jump the seniority list because you came from the military,

That's why I said the word "prefer"...
They will pick a person with experience into a widebody over a fresh trainee. However you are correct about airlines such as Emirates and that you will be at the bottom of the chain on the widebodies...



"Drunks run stop signs. Stoners wait for them to turn green."
User currently offlineHighliner2 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4512 times:

I just graduated from Southern Illinois University - Carbondale, excellent flight program if anyone's interested, and all I can say is get friendly with your financial aide advisor, he/she will become your best friend. Make sure and fill out a FAFSA, there's usually grants available if you apply early enough and qualify. It can be done, I come from a middle-class family and between grants and scholarships I graduated with only a few-grand in student loans to pay off, not too shabby considering I have my Instrument/Multi/Commercial and a Bachelors in Aviation. Good luck.


Go Cubs!
User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2343 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 11):
The AF will not accept a person who has gotten Laser eye surgery done because they do not know the quality of the work the dr. who operated on you had done.

Yeah, that is true. At all military hospitals (such as Landstuhl Army Medical Center here in Germany), flight crew and people going through flight school in the military have priority over anybody civilian seeking to get it done. For one thing, it is extremely expensive (about $5000) which is not covered by medical insurance. But the military will pay the tab for military personel.

I have read that laser eye surgery does NOT guarantee 20/20 vision on the first operation and that about 15% surgeries done by military doctors actually require 1 or 2 more surgeries to really correct it. It is more like 25% (1 in 4) people for people who have it done by a civilian doctor...



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