PM From India, joined Feb 2005, 6717 posts, RR: 65 Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3086 times:
Quoting Vivek0072 (Thread starter): Air Deccan to take assistance from Ryan Air + JetBlue Airways
Interesting. I've never flown either Ryanair or JetBlue (and hope never to have to fly the former) but I was under the impression that they had quite different - one might almost say contradictory - business models. Ryanair really is the cheapest of the cheap (is it true you have to buy toilet paper in the lavs?) whereas JetBlue is trying to deliver a reasonable service at low cost. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but how can both be advising the same airline?
Hawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2992 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 1): how can both be advising the same airline?
Perhaps Air Deccan is trying to find the middle gound. I know that they DN sells food/drinks (even water) on board. So they might be getting help from Jetblue to try to increase services without dramatically increasing costs.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2984 times:
boy...i see a big desi aviation bust coming with all these air carriers coming online so soon....
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3128 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2983 times:
Well, they might want to take the advise and then take the best of both worlds?
Ryanair and JetBlue have many things different, but also many things in common. It's not strange that they are different - they operate in very different environments. There is no Ryanair equivalent in the US and there is no JetBlue equivalent in Europe. Apparantly nobody saw a business opportunity for a FR-type airline in the US and also the other way around. India is still a developing market - they might not be sure yet what's the best for them, and they will find out by talking with 2 parties.
What they have in common? Well, both airlines are considered as 'best in class' in many aspects in business. Both airlines have developed a very strong brand. Both airlines have a very tight cost control program. Both airlines have a very well operating environment.
I think they make a very good choice in hiring both for advise - a copy of any of the models might not work well in India, whereas a combination might work.
By the way, toilet paper is free on Ryanair. And why do you hope to never fly Ryanair? They do serve some good routes and have very attractive prices. Most of the airports they serve are very small - plane-to-car time of 15 minutes, don't expect that at AMS or LHR. Service on board? Well you buy your coffee. And after one hour and a half you're out again. It's not that terrible.
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3128 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2855 times:
Oh no, you are absolutely not wrong. But there is a difference in 'based on' and 'copied'.
Indeed, Ryanairs business model is based on WN's, just like easyJets, Wizzairs, and virtually any LCC model. Vueling has indeed be inspired by JetBlue, they also have a representative in the board of directors.
However, Ryanair is a different airline from Southwest. Indeed, O'Leary has been inspired by WN's tactics, took from it what he thought he needed for 'his' Ryanair, and developed it further. One of the veyr important things he scrapped was the offering of connections. He also changed apsects of the importance of passenger comefort, adjusted price levels, removed flexible tickets. So indeed, Ryanairs business model is based on that of southwest, or inspired by, but it's not the same. Also, Vuelings business model is based on JetBlue (that is, on it's turn, based again on Southwest - Neeleman, founder of JetBlue even started his career at Southwest), but it is adjuested to the European situation.
Nimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3078 posts, RR: 9 Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2572 times:
This is good for DN. At the prices they offer (Rs. 2500 BLR-DEL for april as an example), they should be able to fill a third and a fourth 320 between these city pairs without much pain.
Cricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2936 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2473 times:
112 months is a long time, even though it doesn't sound like it. The pact with SpiceJet will be useful in an aircraft-out situation, particularly opn the trunk routes, but with both carriers running at 90% loads, I doubt how many seats will ever be free. On another note, it will be interesting to see if Deccan introduces another type into its fleet soon - maybe an E-Jet? or smaller Airbus'?
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2347 times:
Quoting Cricket (Reply 9): On another note, it will be interesting to see if Deccan introduces another type into its fleet soon - maybe an E-Jet? or smaller Airbus'
Im surprised the A319 has not been ordered yet.
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MEL
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