Interesting. I've never flown either Ryanair or JetBlue (and hope never to have to fly the former) but I was under the impression that they had quite different - one might almost say contradictory - business models. Ryanair really is the cheapest of the cheap (is it true you have to buy toilet paper in the lavs?) whereas JetBlue is trying to deliver a reasonable service at low cost. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but how can both be advising the same airline?
Hawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4079 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 1): how can both be advising the same airline?
Perhaps Air Deccan is trying to find the middle gound. I know that they DN sells food/drinks (even water) on board. So they might be getting help from Jetblue to try to increase services without dramatically increasing costs.
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3138 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4070 times:
Well, they might want to take the advise and then take the best of both worlds?
Ryanair and JetBlue have many things different, but also many things in common. It's not strange that they are different - they operate in very different environments. There is no Ryanair equivalent in the US and there is no JetBlue equivalent in Europe. Apparantly nobody saw a business opportunity for a FR-type airline in the US and also the other way around. India is still a developing market - they might not be sure yet what's the best for them, and they will find out by talking with 2 parties.
What they have in common? Well, both airlines are considered as 'best in class' in many aspects in business. Both airlines have developed a very strong brand. Both airlines have a very tight cost control program. Both airlines have a very well operating environment.
I think they make a very good choice in hiring both for advise - a copy of any of the models might not work well in India, whereas a combination might work.
By the way, toilet paper is free on Ryanair. And why do you hope to never fly Ryanair? They do serve some good routes and have very attractive prices. Most of the airports they serve are very small - plane-to-car time of 15 minutes, don't expect that at AMS or LHR. Service on board? Well you buy your coffee. And after one hour and a half you're out again. It's not that terrible.
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3138 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3942 times:
Oh no, you are absolutely not wrong. But there is a difference in 'based on' and 'copied'.
Indeed, Ryanairs business model is based on WN's, just like easyJets, Wizzairs, and virtually any LCC model. Vueling has indeed be inspired by JetBlue, they also have a representative in the board of directors.
However, Ryanair is a different airline from Southwest. Indeed, O'Leary has been inspired by WN's tactics, took from it what he thought he needed for 'his' Ryanair, and developed it further. One of the veyr important things he scrapped was the offering of connections. He also changed apsects of the importance of passenger comefort, adjusted price levels, removed flexible tickets. So indeed, Ryanairs business model is based on that of southwest, or inspired by, but it's not the same. Also, Vuelings business model is based on JetBlue (that is, on it's turn, based again on Southwest - Neeleman, founder of JetBlue even started his career at Southwest), but it is adjuested to the European situation.
Cricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2960 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3560 times:
112 months is a long time, even though it doesn't sound like it. The pact with SpiceJet will be useful in an aircraft-out situation, particularly opn the trunk routes, but with both carriers running at 90% loads, I doubt how many seats will ever be free. On another note, it will be interesting to see if Deccan introduces another type into its fleet soon - maybe an E-Jet? or smaller Airbus'?