DL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3065 times:
I was wondering....with the exception of knives, which we debated about a couple of days back...would the airlines allow you to bring your own metal forks and spoons on? I know it sounds rediculous...but if I'm gonna fly F I wanna do it in style...even if I have to provide half the service. Anyone know rules for any and/or all airlines?
MarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3009 times:
I think something like a spork will be innocent enough as it doesn't have very sharp edges, but then, spork is hardly style. I think a fairly blunt knife, the kind that you eat regular meals with, should pose no real problem. You can't cut a steak, much less a human, with it. Am I wrong? Not that I've tried getting through TSA with that....
Bobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2960 times:
I was on a flight to NYC a couple months after 9/11 and they had plastic knives and metal forks in coach. Somebody pointed out to the FA a metal fork could be used as a weapon, she just rolled her eyes. At least they don't provide box cutters to open the peanut bags.
DL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2872 times:
Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 11): Ah crap. I mean US is the only legacy carrier to NOT use real silverware. Sorry about that.
No, DL doesn't on their domestic F (or Int'l Y). In fact they don't use real glassware or tablecloths anymore either...but since DL is my primary airline...I figure I'd improvise. Since it's allowed on other airlines within the "secured area" (haha) and DL only cut down on it at this point for cost cutting measures (at the beginning it was cause of security....but I guess they decided to hold the tradition afterwards...) I didn't think it would be TOO much of a problem for the TSA folk.
Btw-It's kinda funny how they focus on items like blunt knives, when there are worse things that can be used as weapons which ARE allowed on planes (i.e. a broken CD....an ACCIDENTAL cut by that ain't pretty....who knows what an intentional one can do). The lighter thing is a joke too...especially since the ONE attempted "fire incident" was done with matches, which are still allowed.
DL787932ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2854 times:
Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 4): I think something like a spork will be innocent enough as it doesn't have very sharp edges, but then, spork is hardly style. I think a fairly blunt knife, the kind that you eat regular meals with, should pose no real problem. You can't cut a steak, much less a human, with it. Am I wrong? Not that I've tried getting through TSA with that....
Logically, you're correct. But this is the TSA. I was at a business convention last year and one of the vendors handed out cheap toolkits - a couple screwdrivers, pliers, etc. in a little case with the vendor logo on it. Definitely not high-quality tools, but the kind of thing that can come in handy. I only had a carryon on that trip, and MCO security wouldn't let me bring it on the plane, despite the fact that any ballpoint pen (of which I also had a dozen or so with me) was just as "dangerous" as any of the cheap screwdrivers. It ticked me off so much that I used the airport FedEx drop box and paid about $15 to ship myself what was probably about a $3 toolkit.
They've just relaxed the rules on such things as nail clippers. But one can still not bring a lighter on an airplane, although matches are fine. The rules are stupid, and are written for appearance - the appearance of safety, and the appearance that bureaucrats are "doing something" about safety. If I were in charge, the TSA would be re-privatized, and they'd look only for explosives in carry-ons. But not creating busywork is exactly the reason I won't ever be put in charge of the TSA
GeorgiaAME From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2824 times:
Shortly after 9-11, I was flying up front on a Delta flight, just as the plastic knives were being introduced. I sort of rolled my eyes at the flight attendant, who prompt replied that a metal knife could be used as a weapon. Whereupon, I lifted my GLASS, and said that if I needed a weapon, all I would have to do is break this glass on the seat and I would have a real weapon. She agreed, and rolled her eyes in full agreement.
My luck, the one time Delta heard me complaining. It took them 4 years to do it, but drinks are now served in plastic cups when you book a first class ticket.
Well, at least I'm safer now than I was 5 years ago.
And no, ninnies, it was not a threat, it was merely the stating of the obvious.
"Trust, but verify!" An old Russian proverb, quoted often by a modern American hero
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5237 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2785 times:
I was watching Law & Order: Criminal Intent the other night and learned that it's very easy to strangle a person with a necktie. I suppose the TSA will eventually enforce a business-casual rule or require clip-on ties, for passengers who are planning to go straight to a meeting.
Of course, the clip on clip-on ties are metal, so they will have to go through the x-ray machine.
DL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2650 times:
Well, the next time I fly F I'll try sneaking a metal spoon and fork on board....and see what happens (obviously I won't be bringing my highest quality silverware risking that it might be taken away....).
SmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1628 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2567 times:
DL definitely does not use metal utensils--at least not in economy. They use (albeit nice and sturdy) plastic utensils--knife, fork and spoon.
On my recent DL LGW-CVG-FWA round trip, they had the grey plastic utensils.
On my way back to LGW on a DL 767-300ER, I pocketed my set of plastic utensils from my inflight dinner as souvenirs! (Of course, I cleaned them off first).
In all my years of flying (and plenty of longhauls on widebodies), since I started flying in 1993, I NEVER saw metal utensils in economy on AA, DL, TWA, UA, or US, and neither did I see any on EI or BD, whenever I flew longhaul on their widebodies. All my utensils were plastic. I wish I had saved more of my utensils--the only ones I thought to save were the DL ones from my recent holiday trip home.
By the way, have ANY airlines ever used "sporks" onboard? Please let me know! It would have been interesting if they ever did!
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ToTheStars From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2494 times:
Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 21): In all my years of flying (and plenty of longhauls on widebodies), since I started flying in 1993, I NEVER saw metal utensils in economy on AA, DL, TWA, UA, or US, and neither did I see any on EI or BD, whenever I flew longhaul on their widebodies. All my utensils were plastic. I wish I had saved more of my utensils--the only ones I thought to save were the DL ones from my recent holiday trip home.
At TWA we had metal silverwear in coach just prior to the AA cleansing. Looking back it seems bizzare to think of having steak knives in first or the long knife that we used to carve the Chateaubriand.