DL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1 Posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
I was wondering....with the exception of knives, which we debated about a couple of days back...would the airlines allow you to bring your own metal forks and spoons on? I know it sounds rediculous...but if I'm gonna fly F I wanna do it in style...even if I have to provide half the service. Anyone know rules for any and/or all airlines?
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 51 Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1831 times:
Why not just walk by an airport concession stand and snag a few plasticware items? That's what I do...
MarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1796 times:
I think something like a spork will be innocent enough as it doesn't have very sharp edges, but then, spork is hardly style. I think a fairly blunt knife, the kind that you eat regular meals with, should pose no real problem. You can't cut a steak, much less a human, with it. Am I wrong? Not that I've tried getting through TSA with that....
Boeingguy1 From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 415 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1756 times:
Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 4): NW still uses all real silverware in first, including knives
Last March on a flight to/fro Frankfurt on LH, I was served real silverware in economy... isnt this standard on most routes that are served with food? (Besides Domestic)
SonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1747 times:
I think the only legacy carrier to now use real silverware is US (East). Can anybody confirm that?
Bobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1747 times:
I was on a flight to NYC a couple months after 9/11 and they had plastic knives and metal forks in coach. Somebody pointed out to the FA a metal fork could be used as a weapon, she just rolled her eyes. At least they don't provide box cutters to open the peanut bags.
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1704 times:
Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 6): I think the only legacy carrier to now use real silverware is US (East).
Well my recent trip on CO ORD-EWR-SJO-IAH-ORD, both sectors to and from SJO had full meals with real silverware, in economy, so i guess add CO to your list.
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Indy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4368 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1699 times:
Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 4): NW still uses all real silverware in first, including knives
Thanks a heap. Now I am hungry . I will say that first class meals on NW are excellent. At least for flights originating in the U.S. . I thought it was a step above the flight from AMS back to DTW.
SonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1684 times:
Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 9): Well my recent trip on CO ORD-EWR-SJO-IAH-ORD, both sectors to and from SJO had full meals with real silverware, in economy, so i guess add CO to your list.
Ah crap. I mean US is the only legacy carrier to NOT use real silverware. Sorry about that.
DL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1659 times:
Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 11): Ah crap. I mean US is the only legacy carrier to NOT use real silverware. Sorry about that.
No, DL doesn't on their domestic F (or Int'l Y). In fact they don't use real glassware or tablecloths anymore either...but since DL is my primary airline...I figure I'd improvise. Since it's allowed on other airlines within the "secured area" (haha) and DL only cut down on it at this point for cost cutting measures (at the beginning it was cause of security....but I guess they decided to hold the tradition afterwards...) I didn't think it would be TOO much of a problem for the TSA folk.
Btw-It's kinda funny how they focus on items like blunt knives, when there are worse things that can be used as weapons which ARE allowed on planes (i.e. a broken CD....an ACCIDENTAL cut by that ain't pretty....who knows what an intentional one can do). The lighter thing is a joke too...especially since the ONE attempted "fire incident" was done with matches, which are still allowed.
DL787932ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 597 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1641 times:
Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 4): I think something like a spork will be innocent enough as it doesn't have very sharp edges, but then, spork is hardly style. I think a fairly blunt knife, the kind that you eat regular meals with, should pose no real problem. You can't cut a steak, much less a human, with it. Am I wrong? Not that I've tried getting through TSA with that....
Logically, you're correct. But this is the TSA. I was at a business convention last year and one of the vendors handed out cheap toolkits - a couple screwdrivers, pliers, etc. in a little case with the vendor logo on it. Definitely not high-quality tools, but the kind of thing that can come in handy. I only had a carryon on that trip, and MCO security wouldn't let me bring it on the plane, despite the fact that any ballpoint pen (of which I also had a dozen or so with me) was just as "dangerous" as any of the cheap screwdrivers. It ticked me off so much that I used the airport FedEx drop box and paid about $15 to ship myself what was probably about a $3 toolkit.
They've just relaxed the rules on such things as nail clippers. But one can still not bring a lighter on an airplane, although matches are fine. The rules are stupid, and are written for appearance - the appearance of safety, and the appearance that bureaucrats are "doing something" about safety. If I were in charge, the TSA would be re-privatized, and they'd look only for explosives in carry-ons. But not creating busywork is exactly the reason I won't ever be put in charge of the TSA
GeorgiaAME From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 868 posts, RR: 6 Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1611 times:
Shortly after 9-11, I was flying up front on a Delta flight, just as the plastic knives were being introduced. I sort of rolled my eyes at the flight attendant, who prompt replied that a metal knife could be used as a weapon. Whereupon, I lifted my GLASS, and said that if I needed a weapon, all I would have to do is break this glass on the seat and I would have a real weapon. She agreed, and rolled her eyes in full agreement.
My luck, the one time Delta heard me complaining. It took them 4 years to do it, but drinks are now served in plastic cups when you book a first class ticket.
Well, at least I'm safer now than I was 5 years ago.
And no, ninnies, it was not a threat, it was merely the stating of the obvious.
"Trust, but verify!" An old Russian proverb, quoted often by a modern American hero
SonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1606 times:
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4654 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1572 times:
I was watching Law & Order: Criminal Intent the other night and learned that it's very easy to strangle a person with a necktie. I suppose the TSA will eventually enforce a business-casual rule or require clip-on ties, for passengers who are planning to go straight to a meeting.
Of course, the clip on clip-on ties are metal, so they will have to go through the x-ray machine.
SonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1562 times:
Well dang it, if flying is so unsafe, we should forbid people to fly. That would solve everything.
Skydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 860 posts, RR: 11 Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1489 times:
LY continued to use metal utensils after 9-11. If a metal butter knife was truly dangerous, certainly a security conscious airline like LY would have banned it.
DL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week ago) and read 1437 times:
Well, the next time I fly F I'll try sneaking a metal spoon and fork on board....and see what happens (obviously I won't be bringing my highest quality silverware risking that it might be taken away....).
SmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1599 posts, RR: 33 Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1354 times:
DL definitely does not use metal utensils--at least not in economy. They use (albeit nice and sturdy) plastic utensils--knife, fork and spoon.
On my recent DL LGW-CVG-FWA round trip, they had the grey plastic utensils.
On my way back to LGW on a DL 767-300ER, I pocketed my set of plastic utensils from my inflight dinner as souvenirs! (Of course, I cleaned them off first).
In all my years of flying (and plenty of longhauls on widebodies), since I started flying in 1993, I NEVER saw metal utensils in economy on AA, DL, TWA, UA, or US, and neither did I see any on EI or BD, whenever I flew longhaul on their widebodies. All my utensils were plastic. I wish I had saved more of my utensils--the only ones I thought to save were the DL ones from my recent holiday trip home.
By the way, have ANY airlines ever used "sporks" onboard? Please let me know! It would have been interesting if they ever did!
SmithAir747
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ToTheStars From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 262 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1281 times:
Quoting SmithAir747 (Reply 21): In all my years of flying (and plenty of longhauls on widebodies), since I started flying in 1993, I NEVER saw metal utensils in economy on AA, DL, TWA, UA, or US, and neither did I see any on EI or BD, whenever I flew longhaul on their widebodies. All my utensils were plastic. I wish I had saved more of my utensils--the only ones I thought to save were the DL ones from my recent holiday trip home.
At TWA we had metal silverwear in coach just prior to the AA cleansing. Looking back it seems bizzare to think of having steak knives in first or the long knife that we used to carve the Chateaubriand.
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