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User currently offlineRyeFly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5362 times:

Ever gone to an airport and thought its location, design, or features is a disaster waiting to happen?

Most airports are bursting at the seems, but one in particular which I feel is a danger would have to be LGA. Short crossing runways with no room for error. Plus very little room near terminals to taxi. Planes often are "shooting the gap" as they like to call it when one plane is landing as another is crossing its path on take off. I read in June of a near miss between a US Airways Shuttle A320 and a king Air that came 100 feet from disaster at the intersection. Something drastic needs to be done to LGA before a terrible accident happens.

Now its your turn, any airport will do including private.



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5189 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5081 times:

San Diego has a parking garage at the end of its short single runway. Makes the 747 approaches kind of harry.


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User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5078 times:

It also has a hill (in a region known as Point Loma) in front of the takeoff path. This prevents most jumbos from doing nonstop intercontinental flights. I would think that if a plane had trouble getting airborne and climbing and aborting was not a possibility than something bad would happen to the people on it as well as the residents on that heavily populated hill. I am going to be pretty nervous in about a week when I go on a 744 SAN-PHX-LGW!!

Aaron G.


User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5059 times:

I agree with Drerx7. Watching that BA 747-400 on approach to SAN can be scary. One time I was renting a car from Dollar, who's facility is right underneath the flight path at the foot of the runway, and WOW! If I would have had a stone I could have easily have thrown it up into the air and pegged that plane.

I read somewhere that BUR's runway is too close to the terminal building, and that the FAA has been fining the airport authority there for years because of it. It is perilously close.



User currently offlineTritanic From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5046 times:

DCA is a nightmare approaching from the north. Upon approach flying down the Potomac River. You first bank hard right to avoid VP Gore's homestead...then as you proceed you bank hard left to avoid the city of Rosslyn.....then as you fly over historic Georgetown you get close to White House space and bank very hard right......YOU LAND FROM THAT BANK!!!! onto a very very short runway that has the Potomac on each end. During my years at DCA... I witnessed 3 planes overshoot the runway into the mud....I've also witnessed many, many flyby's.....the planes that could not straighten out from that last hiddeous bank.

User currently offlineILUV767 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3141 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5029 times:

BOSTON,
Those runways all intersect each other and sometimes pilots have to land and stop before coliding into a departing aircraft.


User currently offlineRyeFly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

Tritanic, your right landing at DCA from the North is very unusual. Down right dangerous in poor weather.

User currently offlineFlywithken From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4981 times:

JNU is a pretty difficult airport from what i hear. There is lots of terrain that makes approach and departing hairy. Add some wx into the mix and i imagine that there is not much room for error.



User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 4986 times:

at LGW,there is an accident waiting to happen on the ramp and gate space! the ramp/tarmac/stair stands are always filled with aircraft and busses moving which way.I am suprised that LGW has not had a crash on that area!! especially with so many wide-bodies! there definately needs to be an expansion there. at DAL(love field) the if you are right by the airport,you could throw a stone and it would hit the plane, the runways are right at the edge of the airport and I am surprised how the F-100's,DC-9's and 737's land! I mean they have to avoid the fence then drop like 10 feet in a second to land,otherwise,they will run out of runway!
blink182



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User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4976 times:
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DCA is a challenging approach, but I dont believe it to be as drastic as many many make it out to be... The Notrth approach is challenging because of the very last minute of the flight before landing, the pilot must avoid white house airspace, and some high rise buildings, and then do a right bank turn into DCA right before landing... Sort of a MINI MINI Kai Tak....I have flown to from DCA on that approach many times and never had a problem...I think that the most dangerous airport must be LAX, SFO...anything in CA because of those noise abatements, which require pilots to lower thrust on the plane soon after take off...

User currently offlineVincent32 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

I totally agree that LGA is way to dangerous. Whenever I fly into LGA, for the most part is on US Airways Express Flights (via ALB). I also feel that since their runway is positioned on a peir, a plane (I hate to say it) will sooner or later end up in the water. 


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8016 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4971 times:

Unfortunately, planes ending up in the water at LGA has happened several times. The last time I remember was a USAir flight that couldn't lift off in time.

As for dangerous approaches, in Hong Kong the old Kai Tak Airport approach flying near the steep hills of Kowloon and then avoiding that ramshackle "Walled City" during the final banked turn can be potentially extremely dangerous. It is an amazement testament to proper approach design that there has never been an accident of a plane hitting the hills near Kai Tak even in bad weather after the long runway built out into the water was opened in 1962. Mind you, I know of three major accidents at Kai Tak but they were all on the runway (a Thai International Caravelle undershot the runway from the sea approach and went into the water, a Cathay Pacific CV880 overran the runway during braking and the nose of the plane went into water, and a China Airlines 747 landing during a storm skidded off the runway and went into the water).


User currently offlineSKYTEAM From France, joined Nov 2009, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4932 times:

BOS, LGA, DCA, and CVG, As much as I love CVG, It is a dangerous airport wit all the hills around it.

SKYTEAM


User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 954 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 4924 times:

I would have to disagree with you on CVG, it is actually a very friendly and uneventful airport to fly into; I have done it myself numerous times. I understand your statement about the hills to the north of the field, but they are nothing more than the sides of the Ohio River's stream channel, not interfering with the landing path operation. If you want to talk about hills then try to take a look @ Ashville, NC.

Boeing727


User currently offlineCheGordito From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4907 times:

the old Ushuaia airport (glad it's closed now) was deadly. after one end of the runway was a mountain, and the only way to approach it was to fly over a dock (ships with masts) and dive right after that into the runway.


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In Buenos Aires itself- jorge newberry- smack in the middle of town, is another one. it's a very small airport, surrounded by busy roads, with the river on one side, and several gas stations around it.
"The [LAPA] aircraft crashed on takeoff from Jorge Newberry Airpark in Buenos Aires, crushing a fence, bouncing across a busy highway, and and skidding across a golf driving range exploding in flames. Review of the Cockpit Voice Recorder shows that the flaps were not correctly set for takeoff, and that the crew ignored the takeoff warning horn for the entire 37-second takeoff roll." (www.airdisaster.com)

it also came very close to hitting one of the gas stations, and interrupted traffic for a while.

the path of the plane
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User currently offlineCV990A From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 4885 times:

I'd heard that the St. Thomas, USVI airport has a Black Star rating for safety, I think because of runway issues- can anyone confirm this?


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User currently offlineSKYTEAM From France, joined Nov 2009, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 4877 times:

I bet Ashville NC is tough!!!!! I've never flown their, But I've been in the city!!! CVG is one of my favorite airports in the U.S. I love the approach, But it can get kinda scary in bad weather.

SKYTEAM


User currently offlinePapatango From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 4870 times:

skyteam where are the hills around cvg the whole terrain is flat

User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (14 years 2 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4859 times:

St. Thomas' runway has been extended recently (last five years?), although it can't be by much. The runway is limited on one side by hills and on the other by ocean.

In the days before the runway extension, many airlines would operate nonstops into St. Thomas (from JFK, EWR, etc.) but on the return leg, the jets would hop over to St. Croix to adequately fuel the aircraft for the flight home. Apparently it was too risky for a 727 to take off with a fully loaded, fully fueled aircraft from STT.

I rather enjoyed my landing and takeoff on my St. Thomas trip. Felt like I was on one of the Apollo rockets.

 


User currently offlineShip 7004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4831 times:

hello!!!!!
And Funchal? this city has a very dangerous airport...in 1977, a Swiss airplane crashed into the ocean near the airport because it had not sophisticated system of approach.
It is built on a hill, which dominates the sea of 60 meters, there are numerous violent winds near the only runway, which looks like that of an aircraft carrier
greetings

ship 7004


User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

I agree about LaGuardia, but I enjoy landing there.


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User currently offlineRyeFly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4830 times:

I thought of a couple more...

Even though I love the photos and would love to actually see it in person, St. Maarten looks like a tricky landing. Man do they get close to the beach there. Especially on that Air France 747!

Also, I have been on a American 757 flght to Steamboat Springs, Colorado and talk about hills. I was surprised that plane was able to land on such a small runway. We took every last bit of it too. Then you have to do a U-turn and taxi on the active runway to the parking area. What's a little scary is that just about all the flights get in and take off at the same time there.

I have never been there but my brother said Crestibute, (sp) also in Colorado is another airport with very tricky landing approach as well as taking off due to all the mountains.


User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 954 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4812 times:

Skyteam is taking about the hills that the surround the Ohio River just to the north of the field. In 1965 an American Airlines B727 flew right into them, here is an excerp from AIRDISASTER.COM:

The aircraft was on a visual approach for runway 18 at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport in rain and clouds when the crew lost sight of the runway. While attempting to tune in the ILS frequency and become stabilized on the approach, the aircraft descended below glideslope and impacted the southern bank of the Ohio River, four miles short of the runway.

Although the surrounding terrain is rather flat (as you mentioned), just to the north is the only area I can think of that SKYTEAM was talking about...

Boeing727


User currently offlineCarioca Canuck From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4810 times:


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Santos Dumont Airport in Rio de Janeiro can best be described as an aircraft carrier for passenger jets.

It's one of the most beautiful airports in the world in my opinion..........with an absolutely fantastic approach pattern affording a tremendous view of Rio's beaches.............and potential first hand exposure to the waters of Guanabara Bay if your pilot screws up.



User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (14 years 2 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

I don't agree with Che Gordito. AEP is a safe airport. Just because an airport is sorrounded by sprawl doesn't mean it's dangerous.


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25 SKYTEAM : Yeah, I'm talking about the hills on the Ohio river north of the airport. Its a beautiful approach into CVG, Especially on a clean day
26 CheGordito : Under good circumstances, I'd agree. But there are "risky" landings there quite often. I remember on one occasion a Boeing 747 emergency landing there
27 JaseWGTN : Wellington Airport (WLG) my local is not a good airport I can tell you. It's got an X rating i beleive from QF and NZ!!!!! EEEEEP!!
28 Post contains images Aa777dr : Ohh yeah...It's scary alright. I landed there on a TWA MD-80 coming from PBI on June 26, 2000. I was returning home from visiting my family and was wi
29 ZRB2 : What's the difference if you're 15ft above water or the land surrounding the perimeter of the airport on final approach? Over water is the normal appr
30 Post contains images Bacardi182 : EZE is a mess. the new AR terminal has no room for check in and its like a discotec inside (so much smoke and you have to squese by people because arg
31 Post contains images Redngold : I used to live in New York and flew into LGA a few times. If you're not coming in over the water, then you dive in from above the skyscrapers. It felt
32 DesertJets : My sister in law was returning to Washington with one of her sisters into National airport, don't know if it they arrived on Rwy 01 or 19, but to anyo
33 Cedarjet : If any airport fits the description of 'an accident waiting to happen', it's LGA. And even after a major disaster, nothing will be done cos there real
34 G-KIRAN : Lokhla in Nepal is proberly the most dangerous airport in the whole world to land on.Forget kai tak.Its just a dirt strip with one end of the runway r
35 VirginA340 : LGA's shoort runways are so dangerous that the NYC mayor Rudolph Guliani criticized Port Authority of NY and NJ for not acting sooner after a Denver b
36 Cba : All airports with those freaking noise laws. Especially John Wayne in Orange County. A take-off out of that place is pretty scary. It feels like they
37 Post contains images Trintocan : Of Caribbean airports I must say that SVD (St. Vincent) is the most hazardous. The single short runway (4600ft long) has its western end on the sea, f
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