RyeFly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0 Posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5509 times:
Ever gone to an airport and thought its location, design, or features is a disaster waiting to happen?
Most airports are bursting at the seems, but one in particular which I feel is a danger would have to be LGA. Short crossing runways with no room for error. Plus very little room near terminals to taxi. Planes often are "shooting the gap" as they like to call it when one plane is landing as another is crossing its path on take off. I read in June of a near miss between a US Airways Shuttle A320 and a king Air that came 100 feet from disaster at the intersection. Something drastic needs to be done to LGA before a terrible accident happens.
Now its your turn, any airport will do including private.
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5225 times:
It also has a hill (in a region known as Point Loma) in front of the takeoff path. This prevents most jumbos from doing nonstop intercontinental flights. I would think that if a plane had trouble getting airborne and climbing and aborting was not a possibility than something bad would happen to the people on it as well as the residents on that heavily populated hill. I am going to be pretty nervous in about a week when I go on a 744 SAN-PHX-LGW!!
Planenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5206 times:
I agree with Drerx7. Watching that BA 747-400 on approach to SAN can be scary. One time I was renting a car from Dollar, who's facility is right underneath the flight path at the foot of the runway, and WOW! If I would have had a stone I could have easily have thrown it up into the air and pegged that plane.
I read somewhere that BUR's runway is too close to the terminal building, and that the FAA has been fining the airport authority there for years because of it. It is perilously close.
Tritanic From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5193 times:
DCA is a nightmare approaching from the north. Upon approach flying down the Potomac River. You first bank hard right to avoid VP Gore's homestead...then as you proceed you bank hard left to avoid the city of Rosslyn.....then as you fly over historic Georgetown you get close to White House space and bank very hard right......YOU LAND FROM THAT BANK!!!! onto a very very short runway that has the Potomac on each end. During my years at DCA... I witnessed 3 planes overshoot the runway into the mud....I've also witnessed many, many flyby's.....the planes that could not straighten out from that last hiddeous bank.
Blink182 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 5485 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5133 times:
at LGW,there is an accident waiting to happen on the ramp and gate space! the ramp/tarmac/stair stands are always filled with aircraft and busses moving which way.I am suprised that LGW has not had a crash on that area!! especially with so many wide-bodies! there definately needs to be an expansion there. at DAL(love field) the if you are right by the airport,you could throw a stone and it would hit the plane, the runways are right at the edge of the airport and I am surprised how the F-100's,DC-9's and 737's land! I mean they have to avoid the fence then drop like 10 feet in a second to land,otherwise,they will run out of runway!
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
AA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5123 times:
DCA is a challenging approach, but I dont believe it to be as drastic as many many make it out to be... The Notrth approach is challenging because of the very last minute of the flight before landing, the pilot must avoid white house airspace, and some high rise buildings, and then do a right bank turn into DCA right before landing... Sort of a MINI MINI Kai Tak....I have flown to from DCA on that approach many times and never had a problem...I think that the most dangerous airport must be LAX, SFO...anything in CA because of those noise abatements, which require pilots to lower thrust on the plane soon after take off...
Vincent32 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5129 times:
I totally agree that LGA is way to dangerous. Whenever I fly into LGA, for the most part is on US Airways Express Flights (via ALB). I also feel that since their runway is positioned on a peir, a plane (I hate to say it) will sooner or later end up in the water.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8041 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5118 times:
Unfortunately, planes ending up in the water at LGA has happened several times. The last time I remember was a USAir flight that couldn't lift off in time.
As for dangerous approaches, in Hong Kong the old Kai Tak Airport approach flying near the steep hills of Kowloon and then avoiding that ramshackle "Walled City" during the final banked turn can be potentially extremely dangerous. It is an amazement testament to proper approach design that there has never been an accident of a plane hitting the hills near Kai Tak even in bad weather after the long runway built out into the water was opened in 1962. Mind you, I know of three major accidents at Kai Tak but they were all on the runway (a Thai International Caravelle undershot the runway from the sea approach and went into the water, a Cathay Pacific CV880 overran the runway during braking and the nose of the plane went into water, and a China Airlines 747 landing during a storm skidded off the runway and went into the water).
Boeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5071 times:
I would have to disagree with you on CVG, it is actually a very friendly and uneventful airport to fly into; I have done it myself numerous times. I understand your statement about the hills to the north of the field, but they are nothing more than the sides of the Ohio River's stream channel, not interfering with the landing path operation. If you want to talk about hills then try to take a look @ Ashville, NC.
CheGordito From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5054 times:
the old Ushuaia airport (glad it's closed now) was deadly. after one end of the runway was a mountain, and the only way to approach it was to fly over a dock (ships with masts) and dive right after that into the runway.
In Buenos Aires itself- jorge newberry- smack in the middle of town, is another one. it's a very small airport, surrounded by busy roads, with the river on one side, and several gas stations around it.
"The [LAPA] aircraft crashed on takeoff from Jorge Newberry Airpark in Buenos Aires, crushing a fence, bouncing across a busy highway, and and skidding across a golf driving range exploding in flames. Review of the Cockpit Voice Recorder shows that the flaps were not correctly set for takeoff, and that the crew ignored the takeoff warning horn for the entire 37-second takeoff roll." (www.airdisaster.com)
it also came very close to hitting one of the gas stations, and interrupted traffic for a while.
Mbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5006 times:
St. Thomas' runway has been extended recently (last five years?), although it can't be by much. The runway is limited on one side by hills and on the other by ocean.
In the days before the runway extension, many airlines would operate nonstops into St. Thomas (from JFK, EWR, etc.) but on the return leg, the jets would hop over to St. Croix to adequately fuel the aircraft for the flight home. Apparently it was too risky for a 727 to take off with a fully loaded, fully fueled aircraft from STT.
I rather enjoyed my landing and takeoff on my St. Thomas trip. Felt like I was on one of the Apollo rockets.
Ship 7004 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4978 times:
And Funchal? this city has a very dangerous airport...in 1977, a Swiss airplane crashed into the ocean near the airport because it had not sophisticated system of approach.
It is built on a hill, which dominates the sea of 60 meters, there are numerous violent winds near the only runway, which looks like that of an aircraft carrier
RyeFly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4977 times:
I thought of a couple more...
Even though I love the photos and would love to actually see it in person, St. Maarten looks like a tricky landing. Man do they get close to the beach there. Especially on that Air France 747!
Also, I have been on a American 757 flght to Steamboat Springs, Colorado and talk about hills. I was surprised that plane was able to land on such a small runway. We took every last bit of it too. Then you have to do a U-turn and taxi on the active runway to the parking area. What's a little scary is that just about all the flights get in and take off at the same time there.
I have never been there but my brother said Crestibute, (sp) also in Colorado is another airport with very tricky landing approach as well as taking off due to all the mountains.
Boeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4959 times:
Skyteam is taking about the hills that the surround the Ohio River just to the north of the field. In 1965 an American Airlines B727 flew right into them, here is an excerp from AIRDISASTER.COM:
The aircraft was on a visual approach for runway 18 at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport in rain and clouds when the crew lost sight of the runway. While attempting to tune in the ILS frequency and become stabilized on the approach, the aircraft descended below glideslope and impacted the southern bank of the Ohio River, four miles short of the runway.
Although the surrounding terrain is rather flat (as you mentioned), just to the north is the only area I can think of that SKYTEAM was talking about...
Santos Dumont Airport in Rio de Janeiro can best be described as an aircraft carrier for passenger jets.
It's one of the most beautiful airports in the world in my opinion..........with an absolutely fantastic approach pattern affording a tremendous view of Rio's beaches.............and potential first hand exposure to the waters of Guanabara Bay if your pilot screws up.