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Next AirTran City From CAK?  
User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6151 posts, RR: 24
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

After seeing FL announce CAK-RSW (seasonal), I looked at the route map and wondered what was next. A way's back we talked about DFW, is this still a possibility? I was thinking CAK-MDW for connecting traffic to DFW/MSP. What do you guys think?

ASLAX


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User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 935 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Thank God FL is going to CAK now and lowering fares. They are going to change the way airlines do business on this route and all around the world. The cheaper the fare the better. I always go for the least common denominator. Cheaper is better. Thank God for Airtran. No more 4 day bus rides for me and my family!!!

User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5911 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2694 times:
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They should fly between CAK and MIA and/or BWI.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2652 times:

Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 1):
They are going to change the way airlines do business on this route and all around the world. The cheaper the fare the better. I always go for the least common denominator. Cheaper is better

I'm sorry, when did Airtran start flying international? I like FL, but I surely never knew their 73G's were leaving US Airspace on a regular basis, so I doubt they're changing anything "all around the world."

BTW, you already said cheaper is better once, you didn't need to twice.  Wink


User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 842 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2638 times:
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I think they could do well by adding more cities in Florida for snowbird flights and perhaps other destinations out west. BWI and MDW are very well covered by CO and SW in both frequency and low fares, so I do not know if it makes good business sense to add these cities from CAK.

Given that the LAS flights seem to be popular, maybe more west coast flights could be the best option (even if there are redeye returns).



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User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 1):
Thank God FL is going to CAK now and lowering fares. They are going to change the way airlines do business on this route and all around the world. The cheaper the fare the better. I always go for the least common denominator. Cheaper is better. Thank God for Airtran. No more 4 day bus rides for me and my family!!!

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 


And so the Greyhound travelers flock to Airtran...

I'm not sure when FL already started flying across the pond to other countries with 737's and 717's, so I guess I've been out of the loop.

"The cheaper the fare the better? Cheaper is better?" I am sure discerning business travelers across the globe that have never set foot inside a Greyhound bus and routinely spend thousands flying First Class around the world would beg to differ with you. They would be more willing to argue that you get what you pay for.

But I guess since they didn't take the cheap route and went to college and worked hard to get where they are, they don't have to worry if cheaper is better and can afford airline tickets instead of Greyhound.


LOL I'm still laughing.  rotfl 




OttoPylit


User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Probably still see an CAK-DC area flight sometime in the near future....

Travis


User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3295 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 5):
But I guess since they didn't take the cheap route and went to college and worked hard to get where they are, they don't have to worry if cheaper is better and can afford airline tickets instead of Greyhound.

Gee, I went to college, maybe that's why I love that I can get a confirmed business class seat CAK-LGA same day round trip for around $350. CO wants $1000 for a coach seat out of CLE unless I have a 21 day advance purchase AND a Saturday stayover.

I guess I just value the dollar more.

Oh, and BTW, I agree with those who don't see MDW or BWI soon. Too much low fare competition out of CLE. According to Kristi, the marketing director at CAK, DCA is at the top of the wish list. The fact that Akron is split amongst 3 congressional reps, and none are from Akron, means they don't have the clout needed to get slots loosened up.

My guess is that RSW will go year round before the end of the season. Too many snow birds who got gouged for years on the CO CLE-RSW nonstops.


User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 842 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2311 times:
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i think DCA would do very well from CAK. CO has reduced their flights to mostly ERJs and the popular first and last flights of the day are often sold out, sometimes weeks in advance. Given an opportunity to take a 717 with a competative fare and business class seats, I think you will find a good number of southeast Clevelanders take the drive down to CAK since it is not all that much further than driving and parking at CLE.


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User currently offlineMidway737 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 3):
I'm sorry, when did Airtran start flying international? I like FL, but I surely never knew their 73G's were leaving US Airspace on a regular basis, so I doubt they're changing anything "all around the world."

Airtran only international service are Cancun, Mexico and Freeport, Bahamas.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2293 times:

Quoting Midway737 (Reply 9):
Airtran only international service are Cancun, Mexico and Freeport, Bahamas.

I know... I was picking fun at the quote that Airtran was changing the way airlines do business all around the world.

Although, I thought Cancun was temporarily suspended... didn't know it was back. Or maybe I'm thinking F9.


User currently offlineMidway737 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Frontier did temporary suspend service from Denver to Cancun. Now the service is back or suppose to.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 10):
Frontier did temporary suspend service from Denver to Cancun. Now the service is back or suppose to.

Thanks... at least I was just confused and not insane.  Smile


User currently offlineIslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Hopefully CAK-ISP!!!!


Joe


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

Unfortunately, CAK's director announced that they do not forsee much service expansion - from any airline - at least until the new terminal is completed. CAK is definitely a growing market, pulling passengers from as far away as Mansfield, Marrietta (both in Ohio) and PIT. However the terminal project is ongoing and gate space will be increasingly difficult until all of the construction equipment is moved.


redngold



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 14):
and PIT.

Sans Frontier, I don't see what they're pulling from PIT no matter what they say, but they like saying that over and over again. PIT has Airtran too though, so what does CAK have to offer that PIT doesn't?


User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2054 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 15):

Sans Frontier, I don't see what they're pulling from PIT no matter what they say, but they like saying that over and over again. PIT has Airtran too though, so what does CAK have to offer that PIT doesn't?

I had former PIT passengers on board almost every flight I've taken out of CAK... Northwest Airlink, Delta Connection, and AirTran all included.

If you live in northeast or east central Ohio, say between US 422 on the north and US22 on the south, it's just as easy (or difficult?) to get to CAK as PIT.



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User currently offlineNcflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 487 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

How is Frontier doing in CAK? I haven't heard much. . .

I fly CAK to BOS sometimes, the fares are so cheap-- cheaper than LGA-- that flight has to be subsidized somehow.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

Quoting Redngold (Reply 16):

If you live in northeast or east central Ohio, say between US 422 on the north and US22 on the south, it's just as easy (or difficult?) to get to CAK as PIT.

Oh ok now I get it... I thought you were saying people are actually coming from Allegheny County or something. Instead it's that the people live closer to CAK anyways so they're just going to the hometown airport.


User currently offlineFishe388 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 17):
How is Frontier doing in CAK? I haven't heard much. . .

They will be reducing the number of seats in a month or so from the 319 to the 318.


Airtran however has stated in a recent press release to the airport that no further groth should be expected in the near future due to the current price of jet fuel.

Regards

Quoting AS739X (Thread starter):
After seeing FL announce CAK-RSW (seasonal), I looked at the route map and wondered what was next. A way's back we talked about DFW, is this still a possibility? I was thinking CAK-MDW for connecting traffic to DFW/MSP. What do you guys think?


User currently offlineFishe388 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 17):
How is Frontier doing in CAK? I haven't heard much. . .

They will be reducing the number of seats in a month or so from the 319 to the 318.

Quoting AS739X (Thread starter):
After seeing FL announce CAK-RSW (seasonal), I looked at the route map and wondered what was next. A way's back we talked about DFW, is this still a possibility? I was thinking CAK-MDW for connecting traffic to DFW/MSP. What do you guys think?

Airtran however has stated in a recent press release to the airport that no further groth should be expected in the near future due to the current price of jet fuel.

Regards


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6151 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

Thanks everyone. I'll have to get back in the spring and see how the terminal is coming along.

ASLAX



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User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 7):
CO CLE-RSW nonstops.

How do you "gouge" if you have the only non-stop? The consumer always had a choice to take another airline with a stop and save some money that way.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Quoting Fishe388 (Reply 19):

They will be reducing the number of seats in a month or so from the 319 to the 318.

Flightaware showed it as a 318 already today.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FFT497


User currently offlineF9fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 696 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 17):
How is Frontier doing in CAK?

From what I've read, F9 is doing very well on the DEN-CAK route, with planes nearly 90% full, and the third largest airline in terms of passengers (behind FL and DL) with 5% of all passengers through CAK. They are advertising on the Cleveland Plain Dealer's website, so it appears they are very interested in Northeast Ohio. I see by other posts that they are putting the A318 on that route. I suspect this is a seasonal adjustment, and not a permanent change.

F9Fan


User currently offlineFishe388 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

Quoting F9fan (Reply 24):
From what I've read, F9 is doing very well on the DEN-CAK route, with planes nearly 90% full, and the third largest airline in terms of passengers (behind FL and DL) with 5% of all passengers through CAK.

December: 83.2%
November 63.4%
October 66.9%

There first flight of the day is usually heavily booked but the afternoon flight has tended to be a dud.


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