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User currently offlineAvi8tir From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 411 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3001 times:
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I am booking a round trip IAH-LAS in first. I noticed that on the 752 the service says first, but on the 753 it says business first. seatguru mentions nothing of business first. whats the real deal here? also, which would you take if you had a choice? thanks!


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User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 2957 times:
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The 753s do not have the enhanced BusinessFirst cabins, only the 752s. The 753s are, however, being reconfigured back to 24 seats up front (from 12).

By all means - if you can get one of the nice BF seats on the 752 then it is a much more pleasurable and comfortable experience. Unfortunately, they rotate these aricraft throughout the system and last minute equipment changes could cause you to be on a 757, 752 or 753. I believe all of the 757-200s will be converted to the 16 BF seat configuration over the next couple of years, which is great if you can snag an upgrade but not so great as not so many will be available.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 2955 times:

Take the Business First.....but domestic the service isn't much different on the First Class service.....international BF is way better. You will get a BF seat which has all the toys associated with it. Only problem I see is that most all the 752's are BF outfitted and the 753's a regular first class seats. Check out the website seating config and see if that helps more. Last time I was in 753 it was 12 first class seats.....and the 752's were getting 16 BF seats from the mostly domestic 24 seat first class cabin.


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User currently offlineAvi8tir From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2922 times:
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ya, thats why im asking. the 753 shows BF, not the 752. and the seatmap shows the current 12 seats. so its obviously not the real BF product. but why would they call it that on their website? go and do a roundtrip IAH-LAS on their site and see what I mean. thanks!


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9817 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

Quoting Avi8tir (Reply 3):
ya, thats why im asking. the 753 shows BF, not the 752. and the seatmap shows the current 12 seats. so its obviously not the real BF product.

Don't trust the seat map. All domestic Continental 757 flights show only 3 rows of first class with 12 seats so that the planes can be switched around and so that no one will end up downgraded. The 757-300s only have the domestic first class seats, so don't expect anything special there.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 4):
Don't trust the seat map. All domestic Continental 757 flights show only 3 rows of first class with 12 seats

Not true....check the IAH-SFO B752 flight at 5:57PM on 2/8/06 and you will see 16 seats....BF seats! Last I knew IAH to SFO was domestic.  Smile



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5946 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

I think he made a typo. All 757-200 flights now seem to show 16 seat BizFirst cabins... whether they be listed as "757" or "752" equip.
Sorry, IAH Flyer, but I think it's prolly domestic first.

This seems to be a relatively recent change.. no?


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 4):
All domestic Continental 757 flights show only 3 rows of first class with 12 seats so that the planes can be switched around and so that no one will end up downgraded

753s have no BF seats. Whatever website you are looking at is wrong, even if it is CO's. CO's booking page makes a lot of weird mistakes regarding the name of the First product:

First
BusinessFirst
International Business

are all listed on planes they shouldn't be. And International Business has never quite been explained in a CO context. It is likely a term for a code share partner that's getting misapplied by their web software.

Long and short: on routes that fly the 753, during the transition, you will see 12F bookable seats, even on 752s in some cases. It's very confusing, but they are using that for routes where they are putting all their non-converted aircraft.

Closer to flight time, and at online checkin, you will see the exact plane they will use.

On other routes with the 75B, you will see 16F seats. On these routes, they are SURE you will not get a 757 with 24F or a 753 with 12F or 24F.

Hopefully the conversions will be finished soon and they can stop all this. Eventually, there will only be 2 kinds of 757, not 4. 753 with 24F, 75B with 16BF (with some having winglets).

Then of course, the Y section will be inconsistent, as the 75Bs that have the AVOD will have 3 extra Y seats, while the ones still to be converted won't.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 6):
Sorry, IAH Flyer, but I think it's prolly domestic first.

You are correct it is domestic but with the BF seats.....all the 752's have been redone with BF seats or soon to be done mainly for the expansion into Europe.



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User currently offlineNyskymasters From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days ago) and read 2400 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 8):
You are correct it is domestic but with the BF seats.....all the 752's have been redone with BF seats or soon to be done mainly for the expansion into Europe.

Not all 752's are reconfigured yet. The date of completion is supposed to be the end of 2006. All of these aircraft are supposed to have the winglets installed by this time as well.


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