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User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 902 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6835 times:

I see that BMI will b operating a "Star Alliance" branded 767 for the LAS/and other routes. It WILL have Economy.Premium Economy and The Business cabins......No seat back IFE .....More seat space....Same meals and pay for drinks in the back.......I suppose that it needs fewer seats so it can find its way back to MAN in the dark

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User currently offlineZkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6644 times:

As a result of our Airbus A330’s undergoing scheduled engineering checks, bmi are leasing a Boeing 767 aircraft for operational coverage. The 767 will have Star Alliance livery and will be refitted to bmi standards, cabin crew onboard will continue to be bmi staff.

The 767 aircraft will operate on Manchester services to Las Vegas and the Caribbean between 8 February and 20 April 2006.



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User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1617 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6624 times:

Quoting Zkojh (Reply 1):
As a result of our Airbus A330’s undergoing scheduled engineering checks, bmi are leasing a Boeing 767 aircraft for operational coverage.

I thought it was because you were positioning a further one from MAN to LHR for the Mumbai and Saudi flights?


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24928 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6608 times:

I thought the 767 was to be used from Londres Heatrow?


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User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6607 times:

Is the 767 also the aircraft going down to JED/RUH?

User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6467 times:

No seat back IFE?? No custom from me, then!!

User currently offlinePieinthesky From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 392 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6424 times:

This is BD remember, so they won't be sure themselves what they are doing.

It was supposed to be going on the MAN flights to everywhere but ORD. Then they it was going to LHR to do the Saudi flights with an enlarged J cabin to suit that market. Now it's doing the LAS and Caribbean flights. Believe it when you see it !.

I can't see it being to 'bmi standards'. What is the J cabin like on this bird ?


User currently offlineMonkeyboi From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 457 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6402 times:

Quoting Rdwootty (Thread starter):
Same meals and pay for drinks in the back.......I suppose that it needs fewer seats so it can find its way back to MAN in the dark

do you have to pay for drinks in economy on bmi long haul now?


User currently offlineHS748 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6399 times:

Quoting Pieinthesky (Reply 6):
This is BD remember, so they won't be sure themselves what they are doing.

Absolutely, this is just the ususl bmi bollocks. What other airline would launch a new route at exactly the same time that the aircraft that would operate it is going into scheduled maintenance? BD is nothing but a joke, and a bad one at that.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6275 times:

bmi will get B763ER PH-MCV shortly from Dutch charter company ArkeFly. And believe me, this is not the best airframe around they can get!


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It's already painted with darkblue tail, only titles should be changed plus a Star Alliance logo on the tail

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6182 times:

Quoting Pieinthesky (Reply 6):
It was supposed to be going on the MAN flights to everywhere but ORD. Then they it was going to LHR to do the Saudi flights with an enlarged J cabin to suit that market. Now it's doing the LAS and Caribbean flights. Believe it when you see it !.

It is going to MAN in February to do MAN-BGI/-ANU/-LAS to cover whilst the A330s go to MNL for scheduled maintenance (i.e. all MAN longhaul services except ORD which stays on an A330). In April, after the A330 checks are done, its moving to LHR to operate the existing LHR-RUH and new LHR-JED services, which demands a different config to the A330 that is operating India services anyway. The lease is for one year.

Andy


User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 902 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5964 times:

Interestingly the Premium economy seat pitch IS reduced by 3 inches.. The Economy is increased by 3 inches so there is only 2 inches between economy and premium and no IFE so why pay!!

User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5716 times:

Your forgetting the BMI secret ultra plan...

in Feb BMI plans to use a Fokker 70 for MAN-ORD due to reduced demand, and the 763 will operate the 9am LHR-MAN, then be repainted as BMI Baby for the 11.30 to Malaga before becoming a freighter in time for the 5pm to EDI. But as the Fokker 70 will be over EDI at 6pm, there will be no demand for the 763 on the EDI-LHR and so it will fly empty to Copenhagen (to keep out of the way of the F70) and land at 22.30 at LHR carrying a load of Danish Bacon.

However airmiles will only be awarded to passengers who already have 2mn and dont fly on BMI but do buy Breakfast as long as their checkin luggage has volvo spare parts in.

Did you get all that ?

I knew it all made sense :0)



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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3014 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5696 times:

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 9):
bmi will get B763ER PH-MCV shortly from Dutch charter company ArkeFly. And believe me, this is not the best airframe around they can get!

What is so bad about this particular airframe.

Please enlighten us...


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5691 times:

Quoting Monkeyboi (Reply 7):
Quoting Rdwootty (Thread starter):
Same meals and pay for drinks in the back.......I suppose that it needs fewer seats so it can find its way back to MAN in the dark

do you have to pay for drinks in economy on bmi long haul now?

Do you have to pay for soft drinks or just alcohol?



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User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

So essentially, MAN will only have the 767 for a short while and will keep its 330s after their checks?

Lot of fuss over nothing, then.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 9):
bmi will get B763ER PH-MCV shortly from Dutch charter company ArkeFly. And believe me, this is not the best airframe around they can get!

That's a former MP aircraft. Well, I do agree it has to be refurbished because those holiday 767s can be very cramped (I'm speaking of experience).

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User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 902 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 5302 times:

Actually it is worse than expected. The config in Y is 2-4-2!! I think BD is trying to kill the routes.

User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4880 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 5291 times:

Isn't BD operating one of its birds for QR on UK - DOH routes? Or is QR just using a BD slot and using their own birds and staff?

YOWza



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User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5171 times:

VS seem to be eyeing up the MAN Caribbean routes anyway!

User currently offlineFlybmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

Rdwootty,

You are incorrect.

The Y config is 2-3-2. I've just been trained on it, trust me !!


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7123 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5123 times:

Quoting YOWza (Reply 18):
Isn't BD operating one of its birds for QR on UK - DOH routes? Or is QR just using a BD slot and using their own birds and staff?

Its the latter

QR aircraft
QR staff

but magically a BD flight number

Quoting Rdwootty (Reply 17):
The config in Y is 2-4-2!!

Are you serious?



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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4925 times:

It's 2-3-2. On the subject though, i've done 2-4-2 on a 76 and let's just say the seats weren't exactly big Wink

Sam



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 902 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4811 times:

I am confused. the layout for seat bookings , which is all i can see on system is 2-4-2 so that will agravate even more passenegers when they find they cannot sit where they have booked!

User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 13):
What is so bad about this particular airframe.

It was heaving loads of mechanical troubles when it flew the busy summer schedule for ArkeFly. Caused many serious big delays, which resulted in the need of hiring other airlines' aircraft to flew the stranded pax!

Anyway, PH-MCV is now seen at BRU in the full BD livery (which means, Star Alliance colours, and bmi titles). So I presume it will enter on BD's network soon now!

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
25 Sevenforeseven : BMI is going to lose out big time. BMI are a fantastic airline but flying B767 instead of A330 its gonna see the final nail in the coffin for LAS rout
26 VSGirl : I agree BMi need to stick with the Airbus A330, passengers want to see consistency especially with cabin services, IFE systems etc… If BMi do use th
27 A340600 : What bemuses me is that people say it will be up to BMI's 330 cabin standards yet there's no IFE, that's already quite a difference, about as hypocrit
28 Highpeaklad : Just for alcohol, soft drinks are free , this started sometime in January. I might have its advantages, I flew in November and my travelling companio
29 KA501 : Hope PH-MCV is CAT3 otherwise it won't make it into MAN this morning, Due at 7am and its pea soup!(fog)
30 Post contains images LTU932 : Any pictures of PH-MCV in BD Star Alliance colours somewhere? Just searched the database and also Planepictures but nothing. And I'm not going to pop
31 Jetset7E7 : From ringwayreports: PH-MCV B763 Arkefly TF 501P 09:20 - Delivery to bmi Mark
32 Post contains images Sabena 690 : PH-MCV left Sabena Technics today, I saw her taxiing for departure around 09:30 (GMT+1). Managed to take a picture of the aircraft (taxiing in the far
33 Ozvirginuk : Indeed!! We will be operating a MAN-BGI and a MAN-UVF this year, in additional MAN-MCO. If BMI are going to bugger it up, then VS will happily take t
34 SamL : MNL seems quite a random place to do maintenance checks, isn't there somewhere in Europe / West Asia, it just seems a long way to go.
35 Post contains links and images TFSPhoto : Landed at 09:22 @ MAN. Lew
36 Galleyhag : Can't believe you have a pic of the a.c at MAN today! Had a nose around it earlier, not as bad as you would expect. Not an A330 either but it's only 9
37 PurpleBox : OK - why paint it in the Star scheme? Purplebox.
38 A340600 : That's obvious. It saves them painting the much more expensive BMI scheme for such a short period of time, the STAR livery is simple, Sam
39 Post contains links Airways45 : The Philippines seemed odd to me, but probably not for the same reason. The previous maintenance checks were done at Zurich by SR Technics. However,
40 Galleyhag : Think it's to do with cost and ease - also, it's widely thought by staff that as it's flying into RUH it's somewhat safer to not have a Union Jack on
41 Post contains images Galleyhag : Oops! Excuse, the spelling. Just done a night flight from BGI so somewhat dazed
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