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What Are US Airlines Overfly Rights With MX  
User currently offlineUPSMD11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 816 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3042 times:
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I was looking at Flightaware this afternoon and noticed a CO flight from IAH to HNL and it was going up around MX to get across the Pacific when it looks like the most direct route would be to overfly Mexico.

Are there specific rules saying an airline cannot overfly a country or are there fees associated with this that may be greater than the fuel burn associated with longer flying?

Thanks as always for the useful input.

Regards,
John

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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

It may be just winds. I've been on flights that overfly Cuba, so I doubt Mexico would be a problem.

BTW: I believe this is the flight you are referring to:

http://map3.flightaware.com/flight_track_map.rvt?ident=COA1;origin=KIAH;destination=PHNL;key=b9c3f529fcc8d087843c071601b63682043e5c6e;height=600;width=800

Harry



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User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

Both Mexico and the US are signatories to the International Air Transit Agreement which gives reciprical 1st and 2nd freedom rights. ATC charges are another matter - all aircraft in US airspace pay charges to the USG regardless if they are in transit or flying to/from or within.

User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

I don't think overflying Mexico was a problem. On this particular flight, going over Mexico would have saved them 10-15 minutes, not worth the paper-work.

User currently offlineUPSMD11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 816 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2832 times:
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I looked at a number of MIA-LAX flights that skirted around MX too. If I think I know the hassles of paperwork I can understand taking a few more minutes to NOT fly over MX even if you can.

John


User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2796 times:
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Quoting Juventus (Reply 3):
I don't think overflying Mexico was a problem. On this particular flight, going over Mexico would have saved them 10-15 minutes, not worth the paper-work.

Makes sense. All of my flights to/from HNL have skirted the border until we hit the Pacific, usually near LAX. On the way back I understand it is not uncommon to overfly Mexico due to prevailing winds.



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