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California's Airline Airports: All-time List?  
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6837 posts, RR: 7
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5188 times:

I'm trying to list all the California airports that have ever had scheduled fixed-wing landplane passenger airline flights. Or I should say, airports that have been listed in the OAG-- we can't be certain the flights actually operated.

Start at the north end of the state:

CEC; ACV and EKA both

SIY Siskiyou County-- Southwest in the 50s and now and again since then

(Mott?)-- probably not, but Southwest's early-50s schedules show Dunsmuir with "service temporarily suspended." Never got unsuspended AFAIK.

RDD, RBL, CIC, OVE, MYV

Little River (Mendocino County)-- Southwest apparently flew there in the early 50s, and it also got Navajos in 1977, when it was listed in the OAG as Fort Bragg FOB.

CKE Lakeport/Clear Lake had Navajos in 1977

UKI-- Southwest in the 50s, and now and again since then; STS

The 1/62 OAG shows scheduled air-taxi flights to Travis AFB.

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Bay Area and southward therefrom:

SFO, OAK, SJC

Alameda is one of four airports that no longer exist-- probably closed soon after 1941? It was between Webster St and what later became Alameda NAS.

One that surprised me: NOT Gnoss Field, Novato had scheduled Navajos in 1977. Another surprise: the same airline flew to LVR Livermore.

APC, CCR. PAO had Golden West Twin Otters in 1970 to SFO/SJC.

One that I can't figure at all is VLO-- Westair was supposedly flying its Islanders SFO-CCR-APC-VLO in 1977, but the OAG says the airport is 9 miles north of Vallejo, which would have to be APC. But the 1977 OAG shows Westair leaving SFO at 1745, arriving CCR at 1805, arriving APC 1815 and VLO at 1820. Then leave VLO 1850, lv APC 1900, lv CCR 1915 and arr SFO 1935. Did any such airport actually exist?

WVI (Southwest in the 1950s), MRY and SNS. SNS had UA Convairs until 1962-63 and I thought nothing since, but the 5/81 OAG shows service there.

PRB, SBP, SMX, SBA, OXR; VBG had flights in the 1960s. I seem to recall Lompoc, but haven't found any there.

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Sacramento and south therefrom:

SMF, SAC (supposedly had a flight in 1988, too)

PVF Placerville (shown as WUP in the 1977 OAG)

COA, SCK, MOD, MCE, OYS (Mariposa-- the 1977 OAG calls it WSH, which I assume is the same airport)

FCH, then FAT after 1947

CLG, VIS, BKF

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LA area and southward:

LAX, BUR, ONT, LGB, SNA

VNY had Cessnas in 1980-81 to MRY and SFO

Grand Central had AA's flights in the late 1930s, then nothing after that (?). Closed circa 1960?

SMO had Wings West Cessnas to MMH in 1981

Alhambra had its last airline (Western Air Express) flight around 1930? Airport closed after 1941? It was between what's now I-10 and Valley Blvd.

EMT had flights in 1970 and 1981.

POC, LaVerne/Brackett was in the 1989 OAG for some reason-- Inland Empire Navajos.

FUL at various times, and RAL. Do I remember a schedule to Norton AFB? In 1970 Golden West flew to RTO, which it seems was Colton Morrow Field, which closed in the late 1970s (?).

In 1965 C-Air flew Doves to Redlands.

HMT, CLD, Catalina, and all four San Diego airports, SAN-MYF-SEE-SDM. And the 1980 OAG shows Pipers to CJN, El Cajon, but I don't see any trace of such an airport; did they mean SEE?

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Sierra and deserts:

TKF, TVL, MMH, BIH, DTH in 2/84, TRH, IYK, MHV, WJF, PMD, EDW in 1982

DAG (in 1982), APV, PSP, UDD in 1990, TRM (Bonanza in the 1950s), OBR/BXS, IPL. Bonanza claimed to fly to El Centro NAS in 1952 instead of IPL

BLH, CXL

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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5815 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

Very nice list, when it is all done I want a list.

A few others I can think of:
OYS is Pine Mountain Lake/Groveland near Yosemite. Should be around 1978 for Yosemite Airlines. Different than Mariposa.

I never heard Mariposa called WSH, what year and airline?

Look for Delano and Porterville circa 1969 on TransCal.

TransCal also was doing UDD in 1969.

Golden West also did Redlands and Pomona in the late 60s.

I though Alpha Air tried Big Bear in the 80s.

Salinas in 1981 was probably Golden Carriage, a PRB company that operated for about a year or 2.

In the back of my mind Hanford rattles around as a possible in the 60s or 70s but it may have only been proposed. Likewise Needles (EED).



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5912 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5097 times:
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Don't forget TVL (South Lake Tahoe Airport, CA), Truckee, Chico, Crescent City, Red Bluff (I believe).

PSA flew 146's into CCR for a while. STS (Santa Rosa, CA), Vallejo, CA, Blythe, CA, Barstow, CA, Calexico, CA, BFL.

I think even Stove Pipe Springs in Death Valley had seasonal service.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5815 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5071 times:

Quoting Timz (Thread starter):
the 1977 OAG calls it WSH



Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 1):
I never heard Mariposa called WSH, what year and airline?

Just realized what WSH might be.

They may be referring to Lake Wishon, what we now call Bass Lake on the south end of Yosemite. It was only about a 2200 foot runway. But the airport closed around 1960. Maybe someone used it instead of Mariposa's code.



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2464 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5071 times:
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Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
Don't forget TVL (South Lake Tahoe Airport, CA), Truckee, Chico, Crescent City, Red Bluff (I believe).

PSA flew 146's into CCR for a while. STS (Santa Rosa, CA), Vallejo, CA, Blythe, CA, Barstow, CA, Calexico, CA, BFL.

These were already listed in original post.

I see Trans Sierra also stopped in Sonora on their way up to Lake Tahoe sometime in 50's, I guess.

Also, Catalina Island's Airport, CIB



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User currently offlineAaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1524 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5056 times:

Add Sun Aire's service to Borrego Springs. Also, check OAG's circa 1987-1989. There was a Cessna outfit that published schedules to HHR and TOA.


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User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3283 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5049 times:

Didn't Hughes Airwest (or possibly just Airwest) serve RIV at one time in the 60s/70s?


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User currently offlineSJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5024 times:

Quoting Timz (Thread starter):
And the 1980 OAG shows Pipers to CJN, El Cajon, but I don't see any trace of such an airport; did they mean SEE?

I grew up in El Cajon, and I would bet that would be SEE (Gillespie Field). Long before I was born SEE belonged to the Marine Corp so maybe they changed its code when it went to civil aviation. I think one of the runways there is reasonably long. When I was in elementary school the rumor at the school was that a Boeing 707 made an emergency landing on the field and ruined the runway because it was too heavy. To this day I don't know if that happened or it was just the kids in school talking. Maybe an old timer aviation buff knows about it? So Old Timer San Diegans did a 707 ever land at Gillespie Field?


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2926 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5011 times:

TW Express once served LAX-Big Bear for a very short period of time in the late 80's.

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5815 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5003 times:

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 8):
TW Express once served LAX-Big Bear for a very short period of time in the late 80's.

Yep that's right. That would be Alpha Air operating as TW Express.



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User currently offlineRubyMtn738 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5003 times:

One little airline I worked for flew J-32s from Oakland to South Lake Tahoe during 1995 and 1996.

We also flew from:

OAK-ACV
OAK-RDD
OAK-TVL
OAK-MRY
OAK-SMF
SMF-ACV
MRY-TVL For about a week
RDD-SMF

Ruby


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4945 times:

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
Blythe, CA

You are kidding. PSA actually flew to Blythe? Hell, I bet if Ryanair was in the US, they would call it Phoenix/Blythe  Silly.

BTW, since we have started a CA small airport thread, does anyone have schedules that show service to OXR other than LAX?



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5815 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4896 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
anyone have schedules that show service to OXR other than LAX?

I don't own any of these schedules to give you info on the flights but this will give you maps, destinations and dates.

Desert Pacific circa 1979, OXR to SFO.
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/td.htm

Golden West circa 1981 from OXR to LAX, SAN and SBA
http://www.timetableimages.com/i-gj/gw8010i.jpg

Wings West circa 1985, OXR to LAX and SBA continuing to the Bay Area.
http://www.airtimes.com/cgat/usc/mis...w/wingswest/detail/maprm850115.jpg



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User currently offlinePbottenb From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

I remember a casino airline flying regular flights from San Bernardino (Norton/SBD) to Ely Nevada fro about a year in the 90's...I think it was Casino Air

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6837 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4801 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
PSA actually flew to Blythe?

No, they didn't-- careless wording on my part. Just CCR.

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 6):
Didn't Hughes Airwest (or possibly just Airwest) serve RIV at one time in the 60s/70s

You mean RAL?

And BKF should be BFL, of course.


User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2464 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4778 times:
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It was Casino express that flew into SBD.

Also, Qwest Air(lines) flew from OXR to SMF

Only Airborne serves RIV (old March AFB).

RubyMtn, was that Sierra Expressway?



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User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3283 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4735 times:

Quoting Timz (Reply 14):
Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 6):
Didn't Hughes Airwest (or possibly just Airwest) serve RIV at one time in the 60s/70s

You mean RAL?

Yes! That's the one....Riverside Municipal.



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User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2705 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4693 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12):
I don't own any of these schedules to give you info on the flights but this will give you maps, destinations and dates.

Desert Pacific circa 1979, OXR to SFO.
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/td.htm

Golden West circa 1981 from OXR to LAX, SAN and SBA
http://www.timetableimages.com/i-gj/gw8010i.jpg

Wings West circa 1985, OXR to LAX and SBA continuing to the Bay Area.
http://www.airtimes.com/cgat/usc/mis...5.jpg

Also Westair/United Express flew OXR-SFO starting in 1990 with a J-31 and an occasional EMB-120.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5912 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4677 times:
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That little airline that flew between OAK and TVL, along with other communities, was Sierra Expressway. I flew on Sierra Expressway from OAK to MFR, RT.

Alpha Air used to fly from OAK to MMH and Bishop using Cessna 402's.


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4658 times:

Quote:
PSA flew 146's into CCR for a while. STS (Santa Rosa, CA), Vallejo, CA, Blythe, CA, Barstow, CA, Calexico, CA, BFL.

Sorry, PSA never flew into BFL. I know - I wrote them letters all the time begging them to fly into BFL and connect it with the rest of the state.

In the book "Airliners at LAX: Los Angeles International Airport, 1956-1976" by Robert D. Archer, there is a picture of a DC-3 with "Catalina Airlines" livery (page 26). It is stated that by mid-1957, Catalina Airlines flew the 27 mile ocean flight. Is there even an airport there now? I thought only seaplanes flew this route! Good luck in finding that code...

Page 31, Bonanza Airlines flew to Apple Valley. Was that code in your list?

Page 33, Pacific Air Lines. Did they ever fly into BFL?

And finally, on page 86, there is a picture of a Trans California Lockheed Constellation 749. The book mentions that it was used mainly on trips from LAX to Lake Havasu - was that airport in California or Arizona? And does anyone have any other information on this airline?



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4943 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4593 times:

Hemet (HMT) apparently had its own airline in the '80s:

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/xt1.htm

Anyone know what aircraft they used? They flew HMT-IFP, HMT-HII, HMT-LAX, HMT-ONT...



Scotty doesn't know...
User currently offlineRubymtn738 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4585 times:

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 15):
RubyMtn, was that Sierra Expressway?

Yes, it was Sierra Expressway. I was there from the beginning to the end.

Anybody remember or boarding passes? Big and bulky and each one had a different story on it.

Ruby


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5815 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 19):
In the book "Airliners at LAX: Los Angeles International Airport, 1956-1976" by Robert D. Archer, there is a picture of a DC-3 with "Catalina Airlines" livery (page 26). It is stated that by mid-1957, Catalina Airlines flew the 27 mile ocean flight. Is there even an airport there now? I thought only seaplanes flew this route! Good luck in finding that code...

You mean "Airport in the Sky" at Catalina. The code is KAVX. IATA may be CIB but I'm not sure.

http://www.ecatalina.com/a_airport.cfm
http://www.catalina.com/airport.html
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KAVX

I thought the Catalina Airlines DC-3 was only for cargo, but I may be wrong. They had 2 of them though.

But I noticed this picture when doing a search. Check out the UA DC-3 at Catalina at the bottom of this page. Don't know if that was just a publicity visit or something else.
http://www.catalinagoose.com/pacificmarine.html



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5815 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4568 times:

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 19):
Bonanza Airlines flew to Apple Valley. Was that code in your list?

He has APV in the next to last line of his list, right after DAG.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 19):
Page 33, Pacific Air Lines. Did they ever fly into BFL?

Yes.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 19):
And finally, on page 86, there is a picture of a Trans California Lockheed Constellation 749. The book mentions that it was used mainly on trips from LAX to Lake Havasu - was that airport in California or Arizona?

Lake Havasu airport is on the Arizona side of the river.



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User currently offlineRubyMtn738 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4556 times:

How about Swift Aire, they flew either Fokkers or Fairchild F-27s.

And Air LA had a mini hub at BFL in 96. Using Metros to Vegas and several California cities from there. I interviewed to be the BFL Station Manager but declined the offer.

Ambassador Airlines operated Vopar Beech 18s between Vegas and LA during the 60s. They had a few other markets in CA.

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 18):
That little airline that flew between OAK and TVL, along with other communities, was Sierra Expressway. I flew on Sierra Expressway from OAK to MFR, RT.

I used to commute that same route everyday. I lived in Medford and worked in Oakland at HDQ. SEX was going to fly OAK-OXR and SMX before we died.

Don't forget Reno Air Express 1994-1995 operating J-31s:

SJC-CIC-LMT
SJC-RDD-LMT
SJC-SMF
SJC-ACV
SJC-MRY
SJC-ACV-MFR
SJC-RDD-MFR
SJC-STS
STS-RNO Very short lived

Ruby


25 Timz : Pomona-- that would have to be LaVerne/Brackett? The 1965 chart doesn't show any other likely airport. Sure nuff, they're in the OAG with Cessnas. No
26 N1120A : Could have possibly been Cable, but Brackett was formerly open to commercial service, so it is possible.
27 Post contains images Aaway : Gee Timz, thanks for shooting my creditbilty . Actually, I was off by a few years on this one. I found the carrier and schedules in the Aug. '94 edit
28 Post contains links Pgtravel : HPX operated PHX-OXR with a DH8 starting in 2000. Here is the Phoenix Biz Journal article. They didn't stay that long though.
29 N1120A : Yeah, I knew about that one. It was really short lived.
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