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User currently offlineIceTitan447 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23793 times:

These may have floated around here on the forum, didn't do a search.
These are a few Pictures of a UsAir Plane landing with the brakes on.
http://www.dauntless-soft.com/PRODUCTS/Freebies/USAirParkingBrake/


Enjoy

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User currently offlineSwabur From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23783 times:

Nice way to ruin an ERJ. Or at least the brake section.


C'Mon Mav, do some of that pilot sh**!!
User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23762 times:

got it as an email 2 days ago....can you really set the brakes prior to touchdown on a 170????seems to me that the bells and whistles would go off like a quarter winning slot in vegas???could be wrong but seems strange that this could happen.....with out some direct or in direct pilot intervention!!!!.


bus driver.......move that bus:)
User currently offlineJcavinato From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23613 times:

Boy, that sure cured a lot of constipation on board that plane.

User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8602 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23595 times:
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Quoting Jcavinato (Reply 3):
Boy, that sure cured a lot of constipation on board that plane.

 rotfl  I wouldn't have wanted to be the cleaner



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23570 times:

Quoting Swabur (Reply 1):
Nice way to ruin an ERJ. Or at least the brake section.

That's not an ERJ, that's an Embraer 170, which is a different a/c family than the ERJ.

Was this a MidAtlantic operated E-170, or a Republic operated one?


User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 23429 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 5):
That's not an ERJ, that's an Embraer 170, which is a different a/c family than the ERJ.

Type certificate lists it as ERJ-170  Wink



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1335 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 23405 times:

Wow. That is hard to believe. I'd love to think that it is a malfunction of some type, but I know a guy who set the parking brake on a C130 inflight. The results were similar to these pictures.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26709 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 23375 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 6):
Type certificate lists it as ERJ-170

Actually, it does, which is strange because the ERJ family are actually listed as EMB-135 and EMB-145



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 23144 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 5):
Was this a MidAtlantic operated E-170, or a Republic operated one?

This happened last spring in IAH out of PIT. These were the days before Republic.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13170 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 23047 times:

That must have hurt that aircraft!  gasp  How much damage was done to the gear from this? Any idea how long this a/c was out of service to fix it?

User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 22991 times:

Quoting Swabur (Reply 1):
Nice way to ruin an ERJ. Or at least the brake section.

No doubt. This has happened to an EMB-120 as well. I'm not sure if SkyWest still calls it the "Wagstick" anymore or not after the guy that set it in flight.


User currently offlineBigB From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 613 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 22970 times:

Quoting JBo (Reply 6):
Type certificate lists it as ERJ-170

Very true



ETSN Baber, USN
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 22948 times:

Isn't there a Locked wheel protection.something does not add up.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineHannigan From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 22721 times:

Are you able to just reach down and release it once you realize what's happening before it tears into the wheel? Or does that little moment of "what the f*ck" kick in and alter things for a few seconds?


We got planes! We got gates! What the hell!
User currently offlineN723GW From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 22350 times:

I seen this pic a while ago- the story I heard was the pilot flipped the parking break, instead if turning off the autopilot during the checklists. But, IMHO - if you are pulling a black and yellow handle when you're preparing to land....you got problems.

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Photo © Matt Coleman


Hey- here's good news though- I bet USX has a pilot position opening!



The dude abides
User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 22131 times:

Quoting N723GW (Reply 15):
I bet USX has a pilot position opening!

Actually, they don't. For one thing, a mainline pilot landed the plane. (MDA pilots are actually recalled furloughed pilots)

Secondly, the pilot was found not to be at fault. The pilot didn't set the parking brake, the plane malfunctioned, and it set the brake itself. This has happened before, but luckily, was caught in time.

-SOAC



Non Illegitimi Carborundum
User currently offlineIceTitan447 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 21563 times:

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 16):
Actually, they don't. For one thing, a mainline pilot landed the plane. (MDA pilots are actually recalled furloughed pilots)

Secondly, the pilot was found not to be at fault. The pilot didn't set the parking brake, the plane malfunctioned, and it set the brake itself. This has happened before, but luckily, was caught in time.

It is nice to hear the outcome of such a wild ride.


User currently offlineAmericanAirFan From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 21319 times:

Wow those wheels got chewed up like the jet blue plane. Will this plane be going back into service?


"American 1881 Cleared For Takeoff One Seven Left"
User currently offlineStartknob From Germany, joined May 2004, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 21228 times:

That would not have happend with run-flat tyres!
 Wink
Regards,

Startknob



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 21069 times:

This is old news, happened in July I believe...

A Coworker was on it, said it was an "interesting" ride, but not even that scary, let alone life-threatening... that said she joined our ever-growing list of employees that fly CO now, so it must have scared her a little bit, lol.


User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20705 times:

Quoting N723GW (Reply 15):
Hey- here's good news though- I bet USX has a pilot position opening!

Too true. This would be the express lane between "good morning ladies and gentlemen, and welcome aboard U.S. Airways flight XXX" and "Do you want fries with that?"



"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline." Frank Zappa
User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20624 times:

Quoting AmericanAirFan (Reply 18):
Will this plane be going back into service?

The plane is already in service. It happened last summer.

-SOAC



Non Illegitimi Carborundum
User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20580 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 20):
she joined our ever-growing list of employees that fly CO now,

Not to mention that US doesn't fly that route right now.


User currently offline777-200 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1021 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 20232 times:

Old.... I think i saw this over the summer!


Another Day, Another Dollar.... Young Jeezy
25 Jascmil : I hadn't seen it -- thanks for sharing!
26 FutureFO : The plane was stilled owned and operated by Mid Atlantic, we did not finalize the purchase until after the incident. Sean from MCO and SDF
27 DeltaGator : Perhaps but I would guess by the time you figured out what to do the force of landing at whatever the landing speed is for the plane would have alrea
28 IceTitan447 : Here is the date. USAirways HOUSTON 26 AUG 2005 PARKING BRAKE SET BEFORE LANDING (all aboard safe, as far as we know). Not to old.
29 Post contains images Boeingfanyyz : Hey, Thanks for sharing that with us. I guess the pilot's would have really earned their BREAK (brake) after that flight! Sorry...l couldn't resist! C
30 Post contains images Markabcan : Thats one way to make sure you stop in time!
31 Ikramerica : And at that point you'd rather slide down the runway than have non-round wheels and chewed up tires spinning under you, bouncing you around and sendi
32 AAMaddog : Was that photo taken at IAH?
33 474218 : The fifth picture is the best. The lateral brace is severed into, but a mechanic had the good sense to put the down lock pin in to insure the gear is
34 Post contains images Rolfen : haha look at the skid marks, it must have swerved all over the place, they're lucky to have stayed on the runway. That was a damn short landing, thoug
35 Drerx7 : yes
36 Gilligan : Don't know exactly how long it was out of service but it sure got in the way. It sat on 26L here at IAH for 2 days before US mx could figure a way to
37 Aerialportvet : I wonder how everyone felt being slammed in to seat belts on touchdown
38 Wjcandee : Who, it should be noted, is the MANUFACTURER of the aircraft, so one would think that it's a fair place to send something. Of course, the investigati
39 Jsposaune : Well said. Welcome to my RU list...
40 Post contains images Wjcandee : Thanks! You're too kind.
41 Tornado82 : August is the "summer."
42 Post contains images Fanofjets : I'm sure these weren't the only skid marks!
43 IceTitan447 : Who said it wasn't? I posted the date to clear up a few posts. Easy on the egg nog!
44 BigJimFX : Maybe... But who ate the cost for not having the plane in service and repairs, ETC... US? or Mid Atlantic?
45 SonOfACaptain : MidAtlantic is not an airline. It does not have its own certificarte. Instead, it is a division of US mainline, with mainline flight crews. So that n
46 Tornado82 : I wouldn't be surprised if Embraer ate some of it, considering it was a major mechanical problem in a brand new plane. If nothing else Embraer probab
47 EMBQA : Contrary to SOC's statement, 20 minutes before landing the Capt applied the parking brake manually. Embraer had no bearing in this event. It was not
48 Post contains links Wjcandee : SOAC is correct. Look at the USAirways certificate, particularly the aircraft that are on its certificate, and the names under which it does business
49 EMBQA : MidAtlantic 'was' a division of mainline USAirways. All 25 aircraft are currently being transfered over to Republic Airlines and as of right now 15 h
50 BAW716 : Just plain dumb. I'm sure the pilots (both of them) are flying crop dusters now. baw716
51 SonOfACaptain : MDA is still a division of US. Perhaps so, but not because they were fired. If they are flying crop dusters, it is because they have been furloughed.
52 BigJimFX : When did this happen? Granted it's been about 6 months since I flew on a US E170... but the last time I checked... Both pilots were employed by MidAt
53 SonOfACaptain : It has always been this way. US originally tried to put it on the Potomac Air certificate, but it did not happen. Instead, they operated it as a divi
54 2H4 : With all due respect, BAW, it's even dumber to consider oneself immune to such human error. 2H4
55 EMBQA : Ok, for the next two months.. then what...? All the remaining MAA 170's will have been transfered over to Republic. Sorry BigJim.. that is not my quo
56 HAWK21M : The Wheels would at least need to be fitted with Serviceable Wheels & options for brakes & towed to Hangar for Mx. Presumingly the Axle was not worn
57 Post contains images GSPSPOT : The link in the original post doesn't work for me....
58 Wannabe : Would this void the warranty on the tires?
59 Post contains images 2H4 : Regardless, it's a darn good thing their policy included roadside assistance. 2H4
60 Post contains links Wjcandee : You can look at what aircraft are on US Airways Inc.'s certificate (hint: ERJ-170), as well as a list of the names under which US Airways, Inc. does
61 Post contains images Tornado82 : I'm damn surprised we've gotten this many hits on a thread which was equally discussed when it happened 6 months ago. In like May, will we start a big
62 Post contains images MDorBust : One of the pax wanted to know what it was like to land on a carrier... the pilot wanted to show him
63 Post contains images SonOfACaptain : I haven't seen any official report yet, but I was told my story by a MDA pilot. (no, not my dad, for all of you who think I get my informationg from
64 Post contains images USXguy : I just worked N804MD the other day... Its amazing to see those pics and then be upclose to the wheels and imagine a foot of the wheels missing!
65 Jetfixer : SOAC, Please explain this auto parking brake setting system that malfuctioned. I've heard of autopilot, autothrottles, but never an auto parking brak
66 SonOfACaptain : You know as much as I do that that doesn't exist, so you don't have to be sarcastic about it. What I am talking about as had happened before, but lik
67 EMBQA : Wrong. It has never happened before. Besides, even if it did, there would be no way to clear it as it is a mechanically linked system....just like yo
68 AirPortugal310 : Is this one of those "You break it you buy it" deals? Sorry couldnt resist!
69 APFPilot1985 : I'm thinking you need to post something to backup your statements, or you need to stop making them.
70 Jetfixer : SOAC, I have worked on many different styles of parking brake systems. Not one is capable of setting itself. Parking brakes will bleed off pressure b
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