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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5494 times:

I guess this is part of the WN codeshare since it is HOU rather than IAH.

2 flights per day beginning 04/02/2006.

SFO base is closing and moving to OAK and stations will be opened in ONT and ITO.

Good news.

M

[Edited 2006-01-23 01:23:00]

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User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5469 times:

Wow! Flights are loaded already.
Hawaii-flights are moved to OAK! Now we're talking feed from Southwest!!

[Edited 2006-01-23 01:19:21]


- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5434 times:

I do not know that it would be appropriate for me to say, but if you are wondering the validity of the post, book the flight on ata.com. It is available to book now as far as the LGA-HOU goes.

The others are really just points of interest for ATA crewmember more than anything else.

M


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5420 times:

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 2):
The others are really just points of interest for ATA crewmember more than anything else.

OAK-HNL is shown in the TZ flight schedule as flight 4517 operated by a 73H.

Jeremy


User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5417 times:

I found them. Cool!!!
Guess there will be a major announcement tomorrow!!

I've also heard that TZ has picked up a vacation charter contract from various eastern airports to Mexican destinations ....



- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 5334 times:

Right after the announcement of AA pulling their AUS-HOU-LGA...

'902



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6126 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 5260 times:

1 more open gate at SFO in terminal 1. US/HP will be loving that!

ASLAX



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5174 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 5257 times:

Good news--a suitable replacement for YX 717s and AAMd80s lost for us spotters. This route should do well with the WN feed. Flights are with 733s.


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineLGAtoIND From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5205 times:

I have been wondering why WN dosent fly ISP-HOU on their own metal. Anyway, I think this is probably a good move for WN/TZ, because from my own experiences, WN has put lots of pax on the LGA-MDW flights operated by TZ.

User currently offlineGeorgiaAME From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 976 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5176 times:

Half of the abbreviations are Greek to me (sorry about the slur...)

But Southwest to Hawaii via Oakland, WOW. Definitely worth the trip from Atlanta over to Birmingham to make the connection.

Hey Delta, are you listening to the competition?



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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5133 times:

Plus, BHM is so easy to maneuver in compared to ATL. If you live west of the ATL by pass plus a few miles, you are in good shape.

Of course, the people in BHM are driving to ATL for cheaper flights. Amazing.


User currently offlineAloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2362 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5087 times:

WOW.....they are doing Hilo to Oakland NONSTOP. Hilo hasn't had a mainland nonstop in YEARS. I was hoping Aloha would do it 1st. I wonder if Aloha is going to respond in some way to the OAK competition. I guess ATA will be more connections and Aloha will be more O&D.

The Hilo flight is VERY interesting though. A good test of whether ITO can support a mainalnd flight or not.

-Aloha!



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5042 times:

So, if im understanding this HOU is now a ATA/WN connecting airport along with OAK, MDW and PHX?

Meaning any ATA east side city flying to the west to a WN city can now connect thru HOU instead of MDW?

Alex



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5174 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 12):
Meaning any ATA east side city flying to the west to a WN city can now connect thru HOU instead of MDW?

Yep--which opens up all of Texas as well as more connections to the west. You can reach every city from HOU in the system with nonstop or 1 stop. I wish they would also start a flight to DCA (slot restrictions?) or other cities from Hobby. The pipedream would be for WN to turn HOU into another MDW of sorts for TZ.



Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4847 times:

what a second, let's go back, stations opening up in ont? what do you mean

User currently offlineJamake1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4829 times:

Ontario, California.

The press release:

Press Release Source: ATA Airlines, Inc


ATA Airlines Announces West Coast to Hawaii Expansion, New Houston to New York Service
Monday January 23, 5:00 am ET
Carrier's Initiative Brings Affordable Hawaii Travel to More Than 40 Cities Nationwide and Includes Only Nonstop Service From Hilo to The Mainland


INDIANAPOLIS, Jan. 23, 2006 (PRIMEZONE) -- ATA (ATA Airlines, Inc.) (Other OTC:ATAHQ.PK - News) today announces it is significantly expanding its scheduled service from Hawaii to the mainland. Beginning in April 2006, the carrier will offer service between the Hawaiian Islands and both Oakland International Airport, just across the San Francisco Bay, and Ontario International Airport, just east of Los Angeles. As of late May, ATA will offer an average of 11 daily and 73 weekly nonstop flights between Hawaii and five mainland cities: Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Oakland, Calif.; Ontario, Calif.; and Phoenix. In addition to these flights, ATA's codeshare arrangement with Southwest Airlines will allow customers on either carrier to reach Hawaii from more than 40 cities nationwide.

Rebuilding Core Strengths

``Today's announcement begins an exciting period for the Company as we start to refocus and carefully increase our airline's scheduled service,'' said ATA Chairman, CEO and President John Denison. ``With this announcement, we return to one of the core strengths on which ATA was built-leisure travel-while growing in a market that has been historically successful for our Company. Ultimately, it is our customers who will benefit most from the numerous affordable and convenient travel options this expansion delivers.''

Only Nonstop Service to the Mainland from Hilo

As part of this expansion, ATA is the first low-cost carrier and only airline to currently offer nonstop service between the Hawaii city of Hilo on the Big Island and the mainland. Starting April 27, 2006, the carrier will offer one daily round-trip between Hilo and Oakland. On the same date, ATA will be launching two daily round-trips to Honolulu and one daily round-trip to Maui from Oakland. These additions will double Oakland's available scheduled service to Hawaii and will replace ATA's current operations at San Francisco International Airport.

ATA will also be initiating on April 28, 2006 the only daily nonstop, round-trip service between Honolulu and Ontario International Airport, located approximately 38 miles east of downtown Los Angeles. Finally, on May 25, 2006, ATA will introduce one additional nonstop flight between Honolulu and Los Angeles International Airport.

Convenient Business Travel and Codeshare Connections

ATA will also strengthen its presence in the Southwest, with two new daily round-trips between William P. Hobby Airport (Houston Hobby) and New York-LaGuardia, set to begin on April 2, 2006. ATA will be the only nonstop carrier to offer this service. At the same time, the Company will add a fourth round-trip between Dallas/Ft. Worth and Chicago-Midway.

``Our entry into Houston furthers ATA's commitment to provide its customers with more convenient and affordable business travel options,'' said ATA Executive Vice President and COO Subodh Karnik. ``It also strengthens our highly successful codeshare agreement with Southwest Airlines. This codeshare will enable our passengers to reach more than 10 cities from Houston alone and more than 50 destinations nationwide.''

Through the codeshare, customers can book travel on a single ticket for select connecting ATA and Southwest flights. After the expansion, airports where codeshare passengers and their checked baggage will be exchanged include: Chicago-Midway, Las Vegas McCarran International, Phoenix Sky Harbor International, William P. Hobby and Oakland International.

``Hawaii Travel Marathon'' Hourly Ticket Giveaway(a)

In celebration of ATA's expanded service to Hawaii, ATA is excited to launch its 24/7 ``Hawaii Travel Marathon.'' Every hour from Jan. 23, 2006, through Jan. 31, 2006, Travel Awards Members will be eligible to receive a free(a) round-trip ticket for travel from Phoenix, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Oakland, Calif., or Ontario, Calif., to any Hawaii destination served by ATA. Tickets will be eligible for travel from Feb. 15, 2006, to May 31, 2006. Winners will be randomly selected and notified via e-mail. Visit ata.com for more information.

[Edited 2006-01-23 14:39:23]


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User currently offlineFRA2DTW From Germany, joined Feb 2004, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4797 times:

I think what's equally interesting is that TZ is adding one daily frequency MDW-DFW to the four they already operate. AA can't be pleased.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4773 times:

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Thread starter):
ITO.

Hilo?

Quoting LGAtoIND (Reply 8):
I have been wondering why WN dosent fly ISP-HOU on their own metal.

Because ISP is not NYC.

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 9):
Hey Delta, are you listening to the competition?

Yeah, they are, and they're simply not worried with their direct flights. You want a direct flight, you pay more, simple concept. And a whole lot of people in/near ATL or CVG are going to take that direct flight convenience, along with assigned seats for the whole journey, and the widebody 767 with video IFE... versus hopping across the US out there to OAK on a Southwest 73x with no IFE, no assigned seats, and then having to connect to get to Hawaii as well. I see no reason for Delta to even flinch. It's like comparing Walmart or Old Navy to American Eagle or Abercrombie... two entirely different products, in entirely different pricing markets, and you get what you pay for.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4712 times:
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OAK seems to be getting another influx of new service. Where are they going to find room? Is T2 going to be done by then?

OAK will soon have three carriers flying to HI, including AQ and Suntrips (Ryan).

On top of that, SATA is adding service to Terceira on a seasonal basis via Azores Express.

I would expect B6 to start a new route or two from OAK as well.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5901 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4587 times:
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I wonder what type aircraft ATA will use...most likely 737-800's on all routes. It would be cool to see the 753's on the route. I know...I'm dreamin'.

User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 19):
It would be cool to see the 753's on the route. I know...I'm dreamin'.

How many do they have left? I thought they all took a trip to IAH and EWR to get blue tails?


User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4559 times:

Wow! Nice to see someone picking up ONT-Hawaii again. I am wondering why no LAX-ITO and SAN-HNL as SAN is one of WN's top 10 stations and HA always goes out full.


Uncle SAN at your service!
User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

LAX-ITO was announced about a year ago as seasonal service, but never happened. I agree that SAN would make sense, but there have been other threads lately suggesting that SAN is close to maxing out...

User currently offlineUA2162 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 495 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4508 times:

I don't think ITO will have the passengers to support 7 weekly flights to the mainland. Hilo does not have the resorts that neighboring Kona has; plus, Hilo only has one public golf course (a huge draw to the Big Island.) The distance to the volcano is about the same as it is from Kona. Don't even get me started about the Hilo rain.

I guess their banking on more local traffic than anything.

I'm a little biased but I find it hard to believe that they dropped their service to KOA for ITO.

However, being the only ballgame in town just might work for them.


User currently offlineAmtrakGuy From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4483 times:

Maybe ATA will start flying to Mexico and other Carribean islands sometime down the road with connection flights from Southwest.

25 Legacyins : TZ kind of reminds me of Tower Air. They keep moving around to different markets in the hopes of improving their profitability. I flew TZ SFO-Hawaii l
26 Coronado990 : Maybe in ten or so years but not right now. Gate space is currently a problem but TZ could easily share with WN in Terminal 1 if it's just one or two
27 Wjcandee : "The Caviar that they served wasn't BELUGA, and I didn't think the capers looked appetizing." Sigh. When I fly ATA, I get there alive and largely on
28 Chase : Crap, I meant KOA, not ITO, in my earlier post. Sorry.
29 UA2162 : Actually, they served KOA for a short time. However, they stopped the flight about a month into it. UA and AA both serve LAX from KOA so that market'
30 Drerx7 : The HOU-LGA flights are supposedly 737-300s. Besides, until the new concourse is finished the aprons at HOU aren't 757 compatible; however the new ce
31 FCYTravis : Yes, if you mean that one's a popular, value-priced store while the other's a flashy name with absolutely no substance behind it, because clothing is
32 Tornado82 : Fine then.... It's like comparing a Chevy to a Mercedes.
33 BigB : If you comparing WN to SQ you have a point then, Comparing WN to DL is like comparing a Toyota Matrix to a Ford Explorer.
34 Tornado82 : You missed the main point of my post... It wasn't about IFE... but that's the quickest thing for WN Fanboys to jump on is that they don't need IFE. I
35 Wjcandee : Just saw a nice ad in the NY Daily News for the "Texas One Step", LGA-HOU service, with an advertised price of $89. It trumpets onward conx to various
36 ChiGB1973 : When I worked for ATA, all the towels are brand new, granted cheap and disposable or in a Pleasant Holidays packed, lemony, smelling towellette. I am
37 Post contains images Mariner : But was the champagne Korbel? cheers mariner
38 N200WN : I think the LGA-HOU route is going to do well for ATA. Southwest started thru MDW has been surprising to me. Bill that was the funniest post I've read
39 Mexicana757 : I wonder if this is a reaction to Airtran starting MDW-DFW.
40 ChiGB1973 : I would say more that it is WN showing AA that they do have access to DFW. I love to start sh*t! I wouldn't be too surprised to see TZ do a few more
41 LN-MOW : I doubt that very much, but I'm guessing that we'll see DCA-HOU with ATA metal fairly soon. I'd love to see ATA do ATL-HOU too as this is a marked I'
42 Junction : It's interesting to note that WN is not placing their code on the new TZ HOU-LGA flights, but TZ is placing there code on WN flights out of HOU to ci
43 LN-MOW : They will.
44 Drerx7 : So they are 738s instead of the 733s--I assume they will be using gates on WN central concourse at Hobby.
45 BigB : Probably Gates 28 and 25 on central
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