Concorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3 Posted (7 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16779 times:
Just read this:
Quote: Ryanair has apparently invited for simultaneous press conferences across Europe at very short notice for tomorrow 25JAN06, 12am.
The invitation states that they will reveal a pioneering improvement of the low-cost concept and the news will be a "big bang".
Anyone in the know what they are up to ? A frequent flyer programme, as Germanwings and Air Berlin both already have one ?*
*Source: PPRUNE
Any ideas what it could be? I don't think it will be a frequent flyer programme - Ryanair are not known for spending money on things which emulate full service carriers.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18838 posts, RR: 54 Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16731 times:
Quoting Concorde001 (Thread starter): I don't think it will be a frequent flyer programme - Ryanair are not known for spending money on things which emulate full service carriers.
Frequent flyer programmes aren't needed to reward loyalty. Instead, continual low fares and great value is the best reward you'll ever get.
Anyway, I have a fair idea about what the announcement could be.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Bennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 6362 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16694 times:
There has been some talk about replaceing tickets with revenue from on board gambling.
I am not sure what the licencing requirements would be for that.
I am also not sure that it would generate enough revenue.
Another possibibility is that they were talking about no luggage being allowed some time ago. I do not believe that they will simply leave the cargo hold empty.
Concorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16668 times:
Quoting Concorde001 (Thread starter): The invitation states that they will reveal a pioneering improvement of the low-cost concept and the news will be a "big bang".
Perhaps the "pioneering improvement of the low-cost concept" will be following Flybe and charging passengers for checking-in luggage and rewarding those who do not with lower fares and higher hand baggage allowance?
But I think there may be more to the announcement!
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18838 posts, RR: 54 Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16635 times:
Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 7): There has been some talk about replaceing tickets with revenue from on board gambling.
That will happen, at some stage.
Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 9): Flybe and charging passengers for checking-in luggage and rewarding those who do not with lower fares and higher hand baggage allowance?
That will hopefully happen (see my posts regarding this in another thread).
I don't think it's going to be as big an announcement as it's being made out to be.
Don't forget that online check-in (with printable boarding cards) will also almost certainly happen at some stage - and would go hand-in-hand with the pay-for-checked-in-luggage concept.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Smokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16635 times:
Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 7): There has been some talk about replaceing tickets with revenue from on board gambling.
this is still a long way off and I'm not sure how feasible it really is? For example, whats to stop me from booking a ticket because i 'may' want to go away this weekend but then change my mind and not go.
I have a friend and for valentines day every year he always books 3 resturants, all they need is your name maybe phone number, but if you don't show up it's no big deal, he just picks the one he wants to eat in on the day but this leaves a table for 2 free at 2 resturants. I hope that makes sense.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18838 posts, RR: 54 Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16507 times:
It won't be to do with bases if it is as described, namely a 'big bang' - unless it is to involve either a) the creation of a lot of bases or b) the creation of a very unusual base. I don't think it'll be either. So, what would make it revoluntary? I learn towards the gambling - that'd be unique, I think - but pay-for-checked-in-luggage or, more exciting, online check-in (which, in time, will go hand-in-hand with PFCIL) are more probable at this stage.
I also don't think it'll be as big as everyone's expecting.
[Edited 2006-01-24 13:54:52]
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
BBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16507 times:
Quoting Viv (Reply 14): Ryanair orders 25 Airbus A380 aircraft
Only 25!!!!!
I think there taking the option to trade there 737's for 744F, morre room and then they can treat the passengers like cargo!!!!. Or maybe there gonna swap tjhe 738's for a load of good for scrap 732's. .
I admire FR's Business plan, but I think there getting to big for there boots....
Remember: The Bird Hit You, You Didn't Hit The Bird.....
Smokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 14 Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16469 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 16): Quoting Smokeyrosco (Reply 15):
Quoting Backfire (Reply 11):
So you can say 'Yeah, that's what I thought' when the news comes out...?
my thoughts exactly.
See my aforementioned replies. One in particular.
oh sorry, I missed that. I wouldn't exactly call it pioneering but it's certainly an improvement, I hope your right it's about time,
30 Pe@rson: LOL. I was well off. Never heard of that acronim before.
31 Kiwiandrew: nice idea , but since they are set by Governments and Airports they are outside FRs ability to control
32 Gkirk: Perhaps Ryanair will announce they will fly to real airports?
33 OyKIE: Think about the quick turn around times. People allready standing and they can unload in the rear of the plane, and with the nose up config they can
34 IFACN: Maybe, following recent facts here in Italy, Ryanair wants to buy AZ? That would be really a "big bang". A.
35 Pe@rson: Who the hell would want to buy AZ, except to simply get it out of the market (I'll offer 10 EUR)? When - not if - AZ ceases to exist, there'll be lot
36 Art: Hope so. I have a long history of subsidising fellow pax who weigh more than 65Kg.
37 ARGinLON: Long haul travel I don’t think is possibility but… Who knows.
38 Pe@rson: Nope. The advantages of no-frills travel would be eradicated with long-haul flights. And there isn't, in quite a few instances, any real point, fare-
40 Art: I suspect that a high proportion of AZ's loss-making routes would be profitable IF they were not run by AZ. The profitable ones would make much more
41 Nohag: A Big Bang.....let's see Oh now!!! Swapping their fleet from 738's to A320's.... that would be a Big Bang!!! ... In my -humble- opinion some possibili
42 MrComet: Why not go all the way and offer IFE with adult movies and a slot for coins, lap dances, hookers and hashish. Air Amsterdam? PornAir? AirSin? Passeng
45 Pe@rson: Air Asia implemented that concept. I don't know how it worked. I haven't flown FR for probably 6 months or so now, but when I did sometime last year
46 Nohag: That's right although you have a few possibilities: 1) A fine (a fee) if you got caught eating your own food. 2) Sniffer dogs at check-in ... 3) Publ
47 BoeingBus: Ryanair and Ryanair International will merge and expand with a purchase of 100 787 w/ 100 options. lol Cheers, Ric
48 VV701: Hanging straps in the aircraft for standing passengers with half price tickets?!!???!
52 LH121GLA: They're going to buy Easyjet??!! Although am sure I read somewhere lately that Stelios would not sell the remainder of his family's shares.
53 UN_B732: Do you folks mean 12am (Midnight?) Does that mean that it's 6pm on the US east coast tonight; and we'll know before we go to sleep? -Mr. X PS:OLCI is
54 IMatAMS: No idea what but I'm thinking it must be something 'positive' (for the costumers). Why else would they make a large announcement for a press conferenc
55 Srilankan_340: Lets see.... My guesses would be 1.Charging for Checked in baggage 2. Allow Pre assigned seating ( correct me if I am wrong, but no other LCC offers t
56 HS748: Will they get journalists out of bed for a midnight press conference? (12am is midnight, 12pm is noon.)
57 Heavierthanair: G'day Easyjet is to announce the merger with Jetblue of the US, Kingfisher of India and Air Asia of Malaysia to form the worlds largest LCC. Longrange
58 Bennett123: 3. Stop all other forms of booking tickets (internet/telephone) and let people book and check-in at the check-in desks on the day. Seems to me to be a
59 Jmc757: Your all wrong! The truth is Ryanair have for while been concerned with the view of them, especially here on a.net. To that end, they're becoming a fu
60 Aisak: 189 pax on a plane??? Imagine you make a plane like the Flintmobile in "The Flintstones" How much would they save in fuel?....... AND BRAKES
61 UAL777UK: Perhaps the remaining 737's they have on order are going to be delivered without windows so that passengers cannot see the third world airports that R
63 FlyKev: Inflatable seats? Blow them up youself, and the lighter seat would save on costs? Charging for luggage? Making all passengers wear a tshirt with an ad
64 Lindy: I'm guessing that they will announce new maintenance base at Riga. Also I know that my hometown RZE will get flights to Italy and France this spring.
65 A340600: Every pax has to wear underwear and t-shirt only, anything else is weight and more money, Sam
66 Moparman: I think you're being far to generous my friend: a 400 PAX configuration. three rows of 8 across seating, and the rest standing room only similar to a
67 Vasu: Maybe that FR plane spotted at Heathrow a while back was some sort of test flight...?
68 Acjflyer: Perhaps their big bang theory comes in part from the recent events in Florida. Ryanair is now going to do all of their refueling in the air while aski
69 Acjflyer: Of course you will still have to pay for the parachute when boarding the plane, but hey look on the bright side - as long as you know how to re-pack y
70 BBJII: So why would Ryanair make a "big bang" about this?
71 Heavierthanair: G�day I must have mixed up a few things, I apologize. So then how about RyanblueAsiafish ? Cheers Peter
72 Ikramerica: General Ryan's EasyblueAsiafish with happiness sauce, and an eggroll
74 Mika: Yes, because indeed you have absolutely NO choice in air travel, you are indeed destined to fly Ryanair forever and ever, wherever you go! You my fri
75 EGHHwizard: I think this could be a strong possibility. Maybe they will announce more bases outside of the UK and also more flights from regional airports like B
76 Widebody: What's a BTF/OSPL system Viv?![Edited 2006-01-24 21:23:29]
77 Bennett123: We do not know exactly where the press conferances will take place, but it sounds like something that affects the whole company, not just a few statio
78 Wjcandee: Can it be a "pioneering improvment of the low-cost concept" if it is already being done in the States? If not, then it must be truly revolutionary. If
79 Ukkiwibird: FR are really masters of advertising. They have got you guy's really in a twist. I reackon it's low cost space flight. Bring your own life support/ sp
80 Goinv: Maybe Ryanair will expand their business interests to include Ryanbus and Ryantrain....???
81 Mickeyc: i read somewhere recently that they were going to re-register their planes in another country because of the high costs imposed on them in ireland.Per
82 Fokker70NG: They were considering re-registering their aircraft in Latvia, probably because Latvian regulations do not require 4,5 crew per aircraft. That seems
83 Vsa340: Maybe they are launching Ryanair Longhaul - god help any one who books up. I can handle short flights with them but anywhere else - No Thanks Jamie
84 DTManiac: That really made me laugh. Thanks to BBJII. Frederik
85 Fokker70NG: I see Southwest beat them with a "pioneering improvement", because WN announced mobile check-in today, so you can check-in via your mobile phone throu
86 Lospaziale: I think Ryanair flights like buses: on some routes you can get the flight without reservation...
87 Columba: They got a "killer deal" by Airbus and replace all their 737s with A320s....or they will offer low cost transatlantic flights and therefore buy 787s.
89 797: Hmm, my guess would be: "Ryanair is to announce the purchase of 10 A380s seatless to make ultra Low-Cost flights within europe with all people standin
90 IFACN: AZ is government-owned and politically involved. While sympathizing with the vast majority of good guys whose job is now at risk, I know that many pe
91 Rdwootty: Ryaniar announce a new passenger charter. You have no rights You will pay for our misdeeds We will not repatriate you under any circumstances if we ca
93 HZ747300: Not quite... I don't think they would call a press conference to tell everyone that it will cost you EUR20 to use a wheelchair, or EUR10 to use the p
94 VinnieWinnie: Dunno if it has been suggested yet, but what about passengers having to carry their bags themselves to the plane. Might reduce costs even further...
95 Pe@rson: Not at all. People can disagree all they like - hell, it'd be boring if they didn't. And no, I'm not wrong "more often than not." You'll find people
96 Tinkerbelle: I think I know this. They are ordering 45 Whalejets.
97 Nycfly75: Could it be new bases and more routes..I see they are adding a Frankfurt-Bari flight (just one that i noticed)
98 Bennett123: Pe@rson People disagree with you for a number of reasons, and whilst you are not wrong as often as Drinkstrolley suggest perhaps you could tone it dow
99 Dba4U: They will offer all tickets for 0.01€+Tax from now on It's gonna happen someday... I don't think it'll be tomorrow, but... anyway...
100 Fokker70NG: Gentlemen, stop bullying each other, this isn't a playground for 5 year olds.. Pe@rson, what is your relationship with Ryanair if I may ask? You seem
101 Pe@rson: Nope. I'll happily criticise them in certain respects. I'll also defend them when I deem it necessary, because I defend things I like and believe in.
102 Ukkiwibird: What about Ryanair's very own business class- the mind boggles on what they could get away with . A free inflight drink, and maybe a magazine!
103 RP TPA: Maybe the "BIG BANG" announcement will be that Ryanair will officially sanction um....er..... "extracurricular activities" in the airplane lavs.
104 EridanMan: Am I correct in assuming the A380 is the current absolute lowest CASM plane being offered? Whatever it is, I'll put good money that the announcement i
105 Jafa39: 3 possible reasons why you wont see me on a RyanAir flight next time I am in the UK!
106 NWA757boy: I was just at their website....maybe they have had this before or not but Ryanair Loans.....is that their new money making scheme?
107 Simpilicity: Taking over BA, sacking 99.9% of their staff & selling off their aircraft !!!
108 Pe@rson: Just another form of auxiliary revenue generation, the same as credit cards, car hire, hotels, inflight refreshments, other non-consumable onboard pr
109 Reggaebird: They are buying Airbus A350's for transAtlantic services.
110 Pe@rson: In theory, that's an OK idea, especially if you utilise old 742 or DC10 machines - and not a part of an existing airline. However, there are many pro
111 UpperDeck79: Don't they already have that? You pay "only" 25 EUR to get from the airport (airfield) to the city...
112 MIA: Maybe they will begin to put PTV into their flights just like US Low costs...
113 EridanMan: Pe@rson, good response... Frankly, you probably no more than I... but it is something I've been thinking about for a bit... I do have a few responses-
114 Vasu: So... what was this announcement? I thought it was released at midnight last night?
115 BMIbaby733: Do we have a time? and how we can find out as it happens? Where will there be the first report of the "big bang" Anybody?
116 BestWestern: Is it moving Head office and AOC to Latvia?
118 Kaneporta1: I think they're going to switch to an all business class airline, and try to compete with Privatair.
119 FCYTravis: Except here's the difference... WN prides itself on providing comfort and service for low fares. You actually *get* free snack boxes, decent coach pit
120 Canberra: Any other confirmation about this press conference, or is it only seen on that other aviation forum ? If it is indeed going to be something, I think i
121 Canberra: Happens all the time on those European charters. Northern Europe to the Canaries... CPH-TFS = 5hrs, OSL-TFS = 5,5hrs. Guess UK-New York is within tha
122 Pe@rson: Nothing's *free*. You always pay for it in the price you pay. Tesco, a major UK supermarket, spends millions annually just on carrier bags. And this
123 Moparman: That is very true, but it's also one of comfort. Travel has been traditionally extremely expensive in Europe. Ryan is just the most draconian example
124 A340600: I have an itching feeling it may be long-haul, though unlikely, from what i've heard at other camps this could be a small possibility, Sam
125 TAL727: As Morocco as signed an 'open skies' agreement with the EU, maybe they will announce the first Ryanair flights and bases outside Europe!!!!! This woul
126 BAtriple7: I would love to agree with you as I hate the sardine-can flying with FR. However I will still buy their tickets as their ticket costs as so low, and
128 PanAm_DC10: - Web only check-in - Increase luggage allowance from 25kg-30kg - Passengers to only pay for luggage service they use Considering a base in Oporto, Po
129 Widebody: Voila, from Ryanair.com RYANAIR TO REVOLUTIONISE EUROPEAN AIR TRAVEL - FARES REDUCED BY 9% (£2.50 OR €3.50) FROM 16TH MARCH '06 - WEB CHECK-IN TO E
130 Bennett123: I think that we can forget about increased baggage allowances, he is more inclined to cut them.
131 Eric: Oh, I see possible airport nightmare scenarios occuring. I guess they will now start weighing peoples hand luggage when going through security to make
132 Richardw: So how much does a £€0.01 fare go down by? No changes to Taxes, Fees and charges then.
133 Widebody: Absolute nightmare, 25% travel without bags, the other 75% are going to be going back and forward paying excessive baggage fees at check in.
134 N: I use online check-in whenever I can and (as long as it is a reasonable system) find it incredibly convenient as it means less time at the airport. As
135 V1VrV2: I think online check-in is good. I have already done it once with a major carrier and it worked out good but I just wonder how they will control hand
136 BNE: As there has been an announcement we could probably move on to next thread; call it Part II. FR To Revolutionise European Air Travel (again) (by Pe@rs
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