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AA MD-80 Emergency Landing At MAF Sunday  
User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5942 times:

Sorry I didn't get this posted earlier!

Video of the news story available at the link below.

Source: http://www.kwes.com/kwes/newsitestories/newsmidlandlanding.htm

"MIDLAND, TEXAS - It was a rough flight for a plane on it's way to Dallas, when it had to make an emergency landing at Midland International Airport.

American Airlines flight, with about 150 people on board, were headed to Dallas from Tucson when the plane experienced engine trouble.

It happened just after five o'clock, Sunday night. Passengers tell NewsWest 9 the plane lost all hydraulics in the right engine, forcing it to land here, in Midland.

Fortunately, it landed safely. Passengers had to use an emergency exit to get off the plane.

Some passengers say they knew there was a problem when the plane made a drastic turn during the flight.

"It was about, I would say two-thirds of the way into the flight," passenger Jeff Bridge recalled. "The pilot did a pretty severe left-bank turn."

"They informed us that we were going to land here, in Midland, and that they had some engine problems," another passenger, Paul Blanke, added.

The passengers had to wait hours before continuing their flight to Dallas."


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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5934 times:

Evac slides for an engine out landing?

There has to be more to this story.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5918 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Thread starter):
Passengers tell NewsWest 9 the plane lost all hydraulics in the right engine,

How would they know?


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5900 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 2):
How would they know?

Maybe the pilot announced it?


User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 857 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5860 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 3):
Maybe the pilot announced it?

I doubt it. It is correct, but they probably found out after landing.

This stuff happens all the time, all over the place. Is it a big news story in MAF because it is a smaller media market?



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5827 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 3):
Maybe the pilot announced it?

If the pilots had announced it, I would have thought that the media's story would have attributed it that way, i.e. "the passeners said the pilots said...

Slow news day in MAF, it seems...


User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5786 times:

On the news video, a couple of the pax stated that the plane "made a sharp turn". They didn't use the slides, they disembarked through the rear stairs. I'm guessing that none of the 5 gates at MAF were available (3 WN, 1 COEX and 1 American Eagle).

Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 4):
This stuff happens all the time, all over the place. Is it a big news story in MAF because it is a smaller media market?

While it may not happen here as often as bigger airports. it's not at all unusual for us to get a diversion or an emergency landing. We have a couple of big runways, lots of parking space and a good sized fire response unit at the airport. When there's a problem with landing at DFW, we get pretty popular and see lots of different metal.

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 5):
Slow news day in MAF, it seems...

Plus the fact that this story was only covered by one of the 3 local TV news teams. Just posted it because I thought someone might be interested.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5670 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 6):
Plus the fact that this story was only covered by one of the 3 local TV news teams. Just posted it because I thought someone might be interested.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I appreciate your doing so. My point (not well made) was that events like this are not true "emergencies" in the sense that there's imminent danger, but rather, are "procedural" emergencies, precautionary in nature, which serve to keep the situation from deterorating into a true emergency. The media tends to cover them as the former, and not the latter. FAA regs say that on a twin with an engine failure, you land at the nearest suitable airport in point-of-time, and that's precisely what they did...


User currently offlineMGASJO From Nicaragua, joined Feb 2005, 463 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5534 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Thread starter):
American Airlines flight, with about 150 people on board,

150 in a Super 80!!!
Really good investigative report from NewsWest 9. AA Super 80s hold at the most 131 pax. plus 2 cockpit crew and 4 F/A that would make it 137 people on board, not very close to about 150!



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5433 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Thread starter):
It happened just after five o'clock, Sunday night. Passengers tell NewsWest 9 the plane lost all hydraulics in the right engine, forcing it to land here, in Midland.

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that quote was odd...

Quoting MGASJO (Reply 8):
150 in a Super 80!!!
Really good investigative report from NewsWest 9. AA Super 80s hold at the most 131 pax. plus 2 cockpit crew and 4 F/A that would make it 137 people on board, not very close to about 150!

Clearly, the media is never wrong, and the flight was sooo popular that American, in complete disregard for pax comfort, was stuffing them in the overhead bins and lower cargo holds. One of the passengers in the cargo hold "accidentally" knocked a hose loose, and that's how they knew that all of the hydrolics in the right engine had been lost... see, it all makes sense now  Smile

Lincoln



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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5411 times:

Quoting MGASJO (Reply 8):
150 in a Super 80!!!
Really good investigative report from NewsWest 9. AA Super 80s hold at the most 131 pax. plus 2 cockpit crew and 4 F/A that would make it 137 people on board, not very close to about 150!

The other 13 were hiding in the baggage hold.  Smile


User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5364 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 5):
Slow news day in MAF, it seems...

Isn't it always a slow day in MAF?  wink 

-SOAC



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5330 times:

Whatever cosmic force is attracting unscheduled flights at MAF is at it again---a DAL-ELP flight is diverting there now...

User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5321 times:

It's the confederate airforce museum doing it.

User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2247 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5205 times:

Just to clarify...

AA's MD-80s hold 16 pax in first and 120 in coach for a total of 136. There would have only been three F/As onboard due to the length of the flight. Max, including crew, would've been 141.



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User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5084 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 13):
It's the confederate airforce museum doing it.

Off topic (Guess it's OK to do that since I'm the thread starter, right?), they renamed that organization "Commemorative Air Force" instead of "Confederate". Seems that the original name that served them well for 50 or so years became politically incorrect.

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 12):
a DAL-ELP flight is diverting there now...

Was that flight 48? I saw that on FlightAware.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA48
Did you find out the reason? Just curious, looks like the stopover put it into ELP about 2 hours late so looks like it was probably too short to be a mechanical. It's one of those funny things that you can leave MAF and get to ELP before you left (local time-wise)! Medical would be my guess.


User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4928 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 15):
Did you find out the reason?

Never mind, here's the story from the same TV news that botched the other story:

"MIDLAND, TEXAS - An airline maintenance crew at Midland International Airport is still trying to figure out what went wrong.

Pilots of a Southwest Airlines flight, bound from Dallas to El Paso, were forced to make an emergency landing at Midland Tuesday night.

This, after passengers reported smelling smoke.

The plane landed safely. All 72 passengers got on another plane to continue their flight to El Paso.

This is the second emergency landing of an airline at MIA in less than a week. An American Airlines flight, with about 150 people on board, were headed to Dallas from Tucson when the plane experienced engine trouble. That happened just after five o'clock, Sunday night. Passengers tell NewsWest 9 the plane lost all hydraulics in the right engine, forcing it to land here, in Midland. Fortunately, it landed safely. Passengers had to use an emergency exit to get off the plane."


Source: http://www.kwes.com/kwes/newsitestories/newsmidlandlanding2.htm

Hmm, I wonder when our local news here in Midland (MAF) started covering emergency landings at Miami International Airport (MIA)?


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4674 posts, RR: 48
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4900 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 10):
The other 13 were hiding in the baggage hold.

Damn crazy how quickly all of those illegals can get on a plane that just arrived....  Wink



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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4872 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 16):
Hmm, I wonder when our local news here in Midland (MAF) started covering emergency landings at Miami International Airport (MIA)?

forget that... Diverting to MIA while enrote DAL->ELP?

WN pilots trying to get some beach time  Wink


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4841 times:

Quoting StuckinMAF (Reply 16):
MIDLAND, TEXAS - An airline maintenance crew at Midland International Airport is still trying to figure out what went wrong.

Pilots of a Southwest Airlines flight, bound from Dallas to El Paso, were forced to make an emergency landing at Midland Tuesday night.

This, after passengers reported smelling smoke.

The plane landed safely. All 72 passengers got on another plane to continue their flight to El Paso.

Interesting. KVIA, the ABC affilate in El Paso, is reporting that the WN flight returned to DAL: http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=4408493

Small-town Texas media mentality at work  Smile [and I'm from there, so I can say it  Wink ]



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4835 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 18):
forget that... Diverting to MIA while enrote DAL->ELP?

WN pilots trying to get some beach time

The saying when I lived there (ELP) was, "We got plenty of beach, we just need someone to add the water!"
 Wink



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4818 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 19):
Interesting. KVIA, the ABC affilate in El Paso, is reporting that the WN flight returned to DAL:

Two different DAL-ELP flights...

The first was Tuesday night, flight 48, went to MAF.

The second was Wednesday morning, flight 1154, turned around and came right back to DAL.


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 21):
Two different DAL-ELP flights...

The first was Tuesday night, flight 48, went to MAF.

The second was Wednesday morning, flight 1154, turned around and came right back to DAL.

Okay...  footinmouth  I take back the small-town media mentality thing. Wow, two flights within 24 hours of each other to the same destination, from the same originating point, on the same airline, what are the odds of THAT?!?!?



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4799 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 22):
Okay... footinmouth I take back the small-town media mentality thing. Wow, two flights within 24 hours of each other to the same destination, from the same originating point, on the same airline, what are the odds of THAT?!?!?

Don't know about the odds, per se, but with 3,000 flights per day (times 2 days, or 6,000 flights), a couple of irregular operations are not all that uncommon...


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