AA777 From United States, joined May 1999, 2390 posts, RR: 43 Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5946 times:
AA has ordered 20 sets of winglets for the 757....which is small in comparison to their fleet of 143 757s.... Is AA planning on further expanding their routes to Europe out of their east coast ops like BOS using the 757? Or possibly using the winglet-fitted ones on longer transcon routes...I've heard something about SJU-LAX?? Also, whats with the rumors on TW's 757s being retired?
When would we likely see the rest of the 757s leave the fleet? (I know, no one really wants to see them leave because I cant think of one person who doesnt love the 757.......and I am hoping to someday fly the 757 for any carrier, hopefully AA though). How much more use will AA squeeze out of them?
I do find some of AA's usage of the 757s to be odd.... For instance here in the Washington D.C. area, we see a lot more AA757s at BWI, than we do at IAD and DCA, which probably receive more traffic in general.... to me BWI is a 'secondary' airport- though it is very busy because it is an WN hub.
Anyone know or want to predict what AA's plans are for the 757?
Thanks.
-AA777
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ARGinLON From Vatican City State (Holy See), joined Jun 2005, 613 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5923 times:
I don't really see a gap right now in the European Market for those 757s unless AA plans to go to markets well served by CO/DL (TXL, ARN, HAM, etc.) or target seasonal markets
The European is risking become in a couple of years what the U.S. domestic market is like in terms of capacity/profitability.
MD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 2829 posts, RR: 64 Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5900 times:
I believe they wanted to start a 3x weekly service to COR with 757s from MIA - that was a rumour going around, and I believe that the Wingletted 757s would come in handy, or were part of the rumour.
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Gastón - The MD11 Junkie
[Edited 2006-01-24 20:56:16]
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GLAGAZ From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Feb 2004, 1904 posts, RR: 17 Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5849 times:
BOS-GLA seems a good possibility.
Gaz
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KC135TopBoom From United States, joined Jan 2005, 7439 posts, RR: 50 Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5759 times:
I don't think AA will keep the former TW B-757-200s beyond their lease. The TW airplanes all have P&W engines, AA's have RR engines. Even though the TW airplanes are grenerally newer with some ordered as late as 1998.
So, the former TW B-757's will not get winglets, at least, not from AA. These airplanes will, most likely get picked up quickly, once they return to the leasors, as the B-757 is well accepted by airlines and the flying public. They are good money makers for just about everyone who flys them.
N1120A From United States, joined Dec 2003, 23399 posts, RR: 87 Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5593 times:
Quoting AKelley728 (Reply 7): There's also some cockpit differences between the TW and AA birds. I don't know the differences, maybe someone here can share them?
Quoting SoBe (Reply 8): IIRC the switches are thrown in the opposite direction from the AA aircraft.
Isn't that on the MD-80s?
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IIRC the switches are thrown in the opposite direction from the AA aircraft.
Yes, thats for the TWA 757s....i guess the pilots have to be very careful about which type they are on, esp. AA pilots who've been flying the 757 for a long time before TW's were added into the fleet...and vice versa.
-AA777
When the government fears the people, there is liberty; when the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
Atrude777 From United States, joined Aug 2003, 4136 posts, RR: 56 Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5308 times:
Quoting AA777 (Reply 10): Yes, thats for the TWA 757s....i guess the pilots have to be very careful about which type they are on, esp. AA pilots who've been flying the 757 for a long time before TW's were added into the fleet...and vice versa.
I think only ex TWA pilots fly the TWA 757, or AA pilots were spcefically trained to stay only on ex TWA 757 as to not confuse the two, hopefully someone can correct me on that matter.
There are 7 ex TWA 757 left remaining is that correct? or only 7 on lease? How many TWA 757 were bought, and/or leased total?
Alex
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FXramper From United States, joined Dec 2005, 5061 posts, RR: 98 Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4939 times:
Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 11): I think only ex TWA pilots fly the TWA 757, or AA pilots were spcefically trained to stay only on ex TWA 757
Correct sir.
Most frequently my uncle gets to double dead head to STL out of AUS and fly with ex TW guys as a check airman. I only know this cause he whines about having a double dead to STL or BOS as a 28 yr employee of AA.
I would like to see AA do a JFK or MIA to BCN and also PRG.
Jacobin777 From United States, joined Sep 2004, 13323 posts, RR: 68 Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4437 times:
Quoting Amy (Reply 13): I heard an AA 757 was coming to BRS this year.
Not sure if it's true.
I dont' think AA was planning on coming ot BRS, but they were planning on flying a 757 to NCL from JFK, but it got cancelled...what a shame
American 767 From United States, joined May 1999, 2449 posts, RR: 17 Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4203 times:
Quoting FXramper (Reply 12): I would like to see AA do a JFK or MIA to BCN and also PRG.
I don't think that a 757 has sufficient range to fly nonstop from JFK or MIA to PRG, maybe with full fuel and empty load but definitely not if the aircraft has a high load factor. I would rather say LIS, if that destination is ever added to AA's network in Europe, may see 757's. A 757 could fly MIA-LIS nonstop but with a restricted pax and/or cargo load.
Ben Soriano
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KC135TopBoom From United States, joined Jan 2005, 7439 posts, RR: 50 Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4132 times:
Quoting SoBe (Reply 8): IIRC the switches are thrown in the opposite direction from the AA aircraft.
I don't think that is the case. Boeing designs switch placement so that all switches are "on" or "active" if the switch is in the "up" or "forward" position. The difference in the ex TW and AA B-757s must be the type of avionics package, type, style of ADI, HSI, and display programing.
LMP737 From United States, joined May 2002, 3901 posts, RR: 25 Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3862 times:
Quoting Trvlr (Reply 18): Perhaps AA will try and find a lessor/airline/whatever that is interested in an "exchange" of PW-powered 757s for RR-powered 757s.
As the leases come due on the TWA 757's they are being returned. No plans to acquire more RR powered 757's.
ChiGB1973 From United States, joined Mar 2004, 1543 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3711 times:
Quoting American 767 (Reply 16): I don't think that a 757 has sufficient range to fly nonstop from JFK or MIA to PRG, maybe with full fuel and empty load but definitely not if the aircraft has a high load factor. I would rather say LIS, if that destination is ever added to AA's network in Europe, may see 757's. A 757 could fly MIA-LIS nonstop but with a restricted pax and/or cargo load
It has plenty of range JFK-LKPR (PRG). MIA-PRG would be a problem. MIA-LIS is farther than JFK-PRG. Unless there were exception winds, it could do it without restrictions for the most part. I am sure there are exceptions for everything, but these would be some of the best routes for a 752. 3500-3600 nautical mile flights.
Dfwagt From United States, joined Aug 2005, 61 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3551 times:
To be honest who knows what is going to happen with our 757s. It would be great to see more of them flying across the pond. However since CO has already tapped into that market and seem to be doing well, I really don't think that we will see anymore of it anytime soon. Our 757s are great planes, they do need to be updated like no ones business, but due the current financial status of my company I wouldn't really look for that any time soon. Trust me everyone at AA has said something about it. I would look for more Central and South American flying with them, however everyone know that we are dropping LIM next month for what ever reason, but we will keep CCS? Not sure about the logic behind that. On a side note, we will start service from DFW to LIR and MBJ next month on the 23rd. Think DFW may become a better alternative to MIA. Thanks for flying American!!!!
Wait AA is dropping MIA-LIM next month, or are you talking about the plans to drop DFW-LIM?? I would see it very illogical for AA to drop a MIA-LIM because I have flown numerous times and the flights always seem quite full, plus they have numerous Lima based FA's working for AA.
Rwylie77 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 365 posts, RR: 4 Reply 25, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2226 times:
When the ex TWA 757's are returned, will AA either:
1. drop some routes
2. Increase utilisation of existing fleet
3. replace the routes with new 738's on order
4. Something else?
26 AA777: They must increase utilization.... or drop some routes. I dont know how soon the leases on the resy of the TWA 757s will end... Many routes that are
27 SoBe: You may be right. I have no personal knowledge of the setup, just what I picked up off this recent thread: RE: AA's TWA Jets (by Carpethead Jan 18 20
28 DFWLandingPath: What routes are they currently running their 752's with winglets on? DFWLandingPath
29 UALophile: If AA has any plans to keep flying these great 757's, the first thing they should do is put some fresh paint on them!! I was changing planes at DFW la
30 AAden: I think AA is just trying to increase the efficiency of the 757s
31 RwSEA: Bummer that AA wants to get ride of the TWA 757s. From a passenger standpoint, these tend to be much more comfortable than the AA 757s do - the inter
32 FlyDreamliner: The TWA have the same layout as one of the two layouts in Northwest's fleet. Northwest's 757s are also PW powered. I wonder if they'd bit on those? It
33 AASuper80: What ever they do with them, I hope they plan on refurbishing some soon....they All look like 50 miles of rough road inside!!
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