DeltaAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1094 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2010 times:
Well the length of time the L-1011 remains is anyones guess, mostly because of the fact that Boeing production is up and that the new planes are comming in faster. By Oct. the 767-400ER will replace the L-1011 to Orlando, but for how long know one can say. So at this point everything is up in the air, but all L-1011s will be out by Aug. 2000, probably sooner.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4573 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1987 times:
I hope Delta Air is wrong, but all signals are red... As you might have read in my separate post (10 flights trip to the USA), while spotting and flying at Atlanta on 4 and 9 July, my original Tristar flight to FLL was swapped to other equipment (I could get another one, lucky enough), the Delta staff told me they tend to put in other material as much as possible (when available), and there were only a handful of Tristar-movements (compared to the 100+ movements of MD-88s, 727s, 757s...). So as soon as the first batch of 764s is there, the last ones are goners. So if you wanna see or fly it, hurry to Atlanta !
Chances are bleak of seeing anyone in the new-new colours (there aren't even any in the 1997 colours), although the Delta inflight mag. has a drawing of every type in new colours... it actually looked quite nice on the L-1011.
By the way, the only Tristars which I have seen in service on 4 and 9 july are:
728DA, 730DAA, 1734D, 735x, 737D, 739x, 740DA, 753DA, 754DL, 764DA and 765DA
So 10 deliveries of 764s will qualify to whipe these away. That will probably take longer than august, but sooner than august 2001
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
N202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1577 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1956 times:
I had the interesting experience of flying on two of Delta's L-1011's in the last week and a half to Hawaii (trip report forthcoming).
Apparently, Delta's stockpiling the L10s on its Hawaii routes, because it uses nothing but those a/c on its several flights to Honolulu, Oahu and Kahului, Maui. At the Delta pier of the HNL terminal, I spotted three L-1011s without looking--an L-1011-1 from LAX continuing on to OGG; an L-1011-500 to DFW; and an L-1011-250 enroute to Atlanta. I was on the latter aircraft.
As a side note, our captain on the LAX-HNL segment informed us that we would be delayed momentarily on the ramp, as we were picking up a part that another L-1011 needed for repair, which was stranded in Honolulu. I later saw that aircraft in a holding area at HNL while driving by the airport, but I couldn't see the reg number.
My guess is that they're going to shift the remaining L10s to the Hawaii routes and phase them out gradually, replacing them with 764s on these routes.
The L-1011's I was on were N1731D (L-1011-1), and N741DA (L-1011-250). 1731D was a bizarre aircraft, because the First Class section was decked in wood finish and looked rather new(5-7 years old, perhaps?), while the Economy section looked like it hadn't been changed one bit since the a/c was delivered in the 70s. The decor of the cabin was in 70s-ish tones, with beige-ish/yellow walls and seats that looked like they might have seen new fabric, but definitely bore old utility buttons (ie, light switch, headphone jack, music volume/channel selector, etc.). The bins were rather worn, too.
741DA was much better--the seats looked reasonably new, in red, blue, and grey colors, although they did have a lot of loose threads hanging off them. But the aircraft seemed a lot more new and less second-hand than the previously mentioned one. The utility buttons were newer and cleaner, too, and the aircraft seemed much cleaner overall. It was also equipped with the "moving map" display, which tracked our course, location, speed, and altitude, among others, through the flight--I had no idea that DAL put this technology on an L-1011! The bins were still kind of worn, but what are you going to do, eh?
I found the L-10's seats kind of cramped and restrictive, especially compared to the 767-200 that I rode in from Cincinnati on. However, the aircraft was certainly an interesting one to fly on--I just wish Delta had a 2-4-2 configuration like the L-10 was supposed to have instead of the current 2-5-2 config. All in all, not a bad aircraft, though. Too bad it's going the way of the dodo.
WinAir From United States of America, joined May 1999, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (15 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1948 times:
Last month, I flew N741DA from LAX-SLC. It was a great flight and the plane seemed in pretty good condition. although the breaks were squeeking very loud while breaking off of the runway. Kind of annoying Great flight though!