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NWA And UA 747s In Europe  
User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4427 times:

Where do NWA and UA 747s fly to now? Are they mostly used for Asia or do some still fly to Europe, and if so where in Europe? I recall seeing a UA 747-400 at LHR in April 2004. I believe it was from IAD. I am sure this has been posted before, but as time changes, so do aircraft routes and schedules.

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User currently offlineUAalltheway From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4423 times:

You'll see a UA 747 every now and than running IAD-LHR or ORD-LHR. Other than that yes, most of their a/c are going to Asia and SYD/MEL. Every once and a while you'll see a domestic 747 upgraded a/c.. saw a 747 flying ORD-LAX the last time I was at ORD.

Sorry, but have no clue what's going on with NW- someone else could probably answer that.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

I believe that NW only uses the A330 and DC-10 to Europe.

The last time I flew on a NW 747 was on NW 68 in '03. I believe shortly after that they were moved to the pacific.


User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4378 times:

UA 916, IAD-FRA and UA917, FRA-IAD is typically a 744. Also, SFO-FRA is a 744 I believe in the summer, operating as 900/901.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 3):
UA 916, IAD-FRA and UA917, FRA-IAD is typically a 744. Also, SFO-FRA is a 744 I believe in the summer, operating as 900/901.

They also will sometimes swap in a 744 on SFO-LHR in the summer.



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User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
They also will sometimes swap in a 744 on SFO-LHR in the summer.

Yes....thank you! #954/955 is a 744 in the summer....  Wink


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 3):
Also, SFO-FRA is a 744 I believe in the summer, operating as 900/901.

UA900/901 is a 744 year round.

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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24938 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4168 times:

UA919 LHR-IAD appears to be a 744 in winter and 777 during summer when LHR-IAD goes 4 Daily

UA955 LHR-SFO is a 744 during the summer



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 5):
Yes....thank you! #954/955 is a 744 in the summer....

NP, but my question is, how come no 744 on LAX-LHR. UA finally put a second flight on the route (763ER) but the loads and yields on the route must be enough to support the Jumbo at least during the summer. In fact, there were major rumors of just that when UA realized that it is cheaper to run 744s not only by CASM but also by trip costs when they factored in leasing costs of their 772ERs



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User currently offlineJano From Slovakia, joined Jan 2004, 827 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4046 times:

NW uses B747s in Asia only. EU is A330s a and DC10-30s.


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User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 1):
You'll see a UA 747 every now and than running IAD-LHR



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
UA919 LHR-IAD appears to be a 744 in winter and 777 during summer when LHR-IAD goes 4 Daily

United's 916/917 and 918/919, the Dulles to London and Frankfurt flights are 747s year round, not every now and then. This is true even when they add the seasonal 4th London flight during the summer and will be true when they add the 4th seasonal Frankfurt flight next summer


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25512 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3783 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
how come no 744 on LAX-LHR.

B744s and widebodies in general are quite tight at UA. I suppose the company might even wish they would not have returned as many as they did during the Ch11 process.

Anyways, after about 2 years of trying, LA finally got the 2nd LHR flight back. While not double daily 777s as in the past it will do.
With the shortage of B744s, LHR-SFO gets the upguaged on the 2nd flight, which is still 1 flight short of the 3 daily LHR trips they had a few years back.

Also another issue with LAX-LHR is that UA and AirNZ have crossed sold each other on the route allowing a 2nd nonstop flight to be available and marketed these last few years which has somewhat dissuaded the reintroducing of UAs own 2nd flight till this coming summer.



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3694 times:
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Quoting Jano (Reply 9):
NW uses B747s in Asia only. EU is A330s a and DC10-30s.

Our 747 aircraft are used from DTW-NRT/KIX.NGO, MSP/HNL/LAX-NRT on the Transpac flights, and NRT/NGO-MNL, NRT-HKG/PVG/SPN/GUM, and KIX-TPE on Interport. 8/03 was the last time we flew DTW-AMS, and 9/03 MSP-AMS. We may have flown them on a equipemnt-sub since then.



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User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3443 times:

Nw's B-747 are flying all Asian flights. They are using A332 or DC-10's on some Atlantic routes and to Hawaii from DTW, MSP. B-727-300's are used to Hawaii from the west coast and Alaska.

UA will fly the B747 from IAD to FRA in the summer and also ORD to FRA in the summer. But as stated above most are all on Asian routes.


User currently offlinePlaneGuy27 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3435 times:

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 13):
B-727-300's are used to Hawaii from the west coast and Alaska.

That would be pretty neat to see  Smile


User currently offlineUAalltheway From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 10):

United's 916/917 and 918/919, the Dulles to London and Frankfurt flights are 747s year round, not every now and then. This is true even when they add the seasonal 4th London flight during the summer and will be true when they add the 4th seasonal Frankfurt flight next summer

Right.. I meant not every single flight that's on that route is operated by a 747. My fault.. I should've worded that differently.

Also sorry I was focusing on east coast to London flights, but everyone else has already posted about FRA, SFO, etc.


User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3308 times:

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Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 13):
B-727-300's are used to Hawaii from the west coast and Alaska

Do you mean 757-300s? I did not think NW still used 727s.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 16):
Do you mean 757-300s? I did not think NW still used 727s.

From the US the 757-300 and DC-10 go to hawaii, and from Asia its the DC-10, 742, and 744.



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5344 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 10):
United's 916/917 and 918/919, the Dulles to London and Frankfurt flights are 747s year round, not every now and then. This is true even when they add the seasonal 4th London flight during the summer and will be true when they add the 4th seasonal Frankfurt flight next summer

I'm quite sure that when the IAD-LHR flights go 4 daily they were/are going to run 2x 763's and 2x 772's.

I'd have to say this is true because they are trying to free up 744's for more Asian flights!?

I may be wrong as I don't no much about UA's scheduling of aircraft.


User currently offlineScott0305 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 18):
I'm quite sure that when the IAD-LHR flights go 4 daily they were/are going to run 2x 763's and 2x 772's.

I'd have to say this is true because they are trying to free up 744's for more Asian flights!?

I may be wrong as I don't no much about UA's scheduling of aircraft.

I have just booked a flight from LHR to IAD in May after the schedule goes 4 daily and United's website is showing 2x763 and 2x772


User currently offlineVega From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 10):
United's 916/917 and 918/919, the Dulles to London and Frankfurt flights are 747s year round, not every now and then. This is true even when they add the seasonal 4th London flight during the summer and will be true when they add the 4th seasonal Frankfurt flight next summer



Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 15):
Right.. I meant not every single flight that's on that route is operated by a 747. My fault.. I should've worded that differently.

Your apology was too hasty.


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