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Photography Strictly Prohibited In Paris Airports!  
User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7421 times:

Paris Airports (Orly, Le Bourget and CDG) have prohobited photography inside the airport. This is because of a new legislation that prohibits French to take photos inside public and protected places. The fine for its breakage is €350.

Terrible insident. Another reason why I will never fly via CDG and use AF.

Sincerely,
Adam
PS: Source: (Czech only): http://www.planes.cz/


Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12522 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7394 times:

Merde, Zut alors and other naughty French words. Silly Frogs!

Well, CDG was never one of my favourite airports and this is really a stupid move - more than likely in the name of security - that will achieve nothing positive. It only means that gendermes and security thugs will be focusing on issues which don't pose any risk to security ... and will be diverted from issues which do.

Strange that AF's partner airline, KL, has one of the most pleasant and civilised bases in Europe. One can only hope that the Dutch remain immune to frogitis.

Now I'm off for a plate of Liberty fries.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7365 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
This is because of a new legislation that prohibits French to take photos inside public and protected places.

Does this carry over into places like The Louvre, Eiffel Tower, etc. as they are public and protected places? That would be a shame.



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User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7315 times:

What is the purpose of this? Tourists take pictures and tourism is a big income for France.
This will be in the past then:



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7282 times:

In this case , it seems like France is becoming as an old East European country during the communism period !!! A very big shame !!!
It's only a stupid decision taken by politics , who have no idea what spotting planes is.They see terrorists everywhere !!!!!!!! Totally stupid!!!!!!!!!!

DeltaGator

No , up to now (hope also in the future too !!!) you can make pictures of the Eiffel Tower , Palais du Louvre and Arc de Triomphe as you wish.
If one day it becomes forbidden , so France will be dead......


User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4278 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7166 times:

I got yelled at this past year for taking a picture in Orly.
It is a stupid rule and I don't really understand what it accomplishes. I assumed it was the airline I was flying that had the rule, as they were the people telling me off. I also got yelled at for photo-taking by the same airline when sitting in one of their planes (during boarding!) at EDI later in the year. Its very odd.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineCampbelldok From Brazil, joined Dec 2005, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7166 times:

>>>>>>>> I know what´s happening! It is the result of a secret meeting late at night, one week ago, when the airplane washers syndicate claimed there were too many spotters and they couldn´t put up with the job because of labor restrictive laws. They got into an agreement with the mayor, who prompted to fine the spotters for a share in the total fine revenue. - Now those in charge of AF aircraft washing will feel there is less a burden in leaving their planes so dirty.
>>>>>>>> Now, seriously speaking, France is becoming worse than the U.S. in terms of fear from terrorist attacks. Something French people always were proud of was their relative independence from the American way of life that spreads around the globe. They also claimed they were more sensitive about the war in Iraq and multicultural convivence.
>>>>>>>> What exactly is the fear? Terrorists may hide mini-missiles in camera-like devices? The digital cameras may interfere with the delicate electromagnetic controls of the aircraft? Spotters are deviating attention of the pilots from their duty, and there is risk they start making up or combing their hair and therefore crash into Eiffel tower.
>>>>>>>> In just two words: No sense.


User currently offlineFrequentflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 736 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7156 times:

BS and more BS... how sillier can it get?
 ill 



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User currently offlineNonrevman From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1302 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7156 times:

A lot of tourists do take photos at airports, usually like the one in a post above, and they are often not even airline/spotter type enthusiasts as we are. I would hate to be one of them, take a picture, and not know what hit them they get fined for it.

I seriously doubt this would impact the monuments of Paris.


User currently offlineCampbelldok From Brazil, joined Dec 2005, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7077 times:

>>> Excuse me mister Frequentflyer, but... What does BS mean? Textual words, please!

>>> By the way, does anybody know what is the exact reason for this prohibition?


User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7058 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Paris Airports (Orly, Le Bourget and CDG) have prohobited photography inside the airport. This is because of a new legislation that prohibits French to take photos inside public and protected places. The fine for its breakage is �350.

I never heard of this "new legislation" . Please give us your source, I'm most interested.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7033 times:

[quote=Campbelldok,reply=10]>>> Excuse me mister Frequentflyer, but... What does BS mean? Textual words, please!quote]

Bullsh*t, not Bachelor of Science.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7006 times:

Let's not get political with this, makes no difference whether it is CDG or JFK. What is important is that, if this is true, it will make the lives of aviation photographers that much harder. Let's hope it is not a sign of things to come.

Harry



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User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7000 times:
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Quoting Richierich (Reply 6):
I got yelled at this past year for taking a picture in Orly.

Don't feel bad; I got yelled at multiple times at JFK for having a camera out. Screw the cops and security guards and anyone else who wants to stop me. I am gonna be stealthy like the ninja and take pictures anyway. These guys don't seem to understand that there are people out there who love airplanes that make a day out of going to the airport just to see their "loved ones".

I will never forget when I watched a cop at JFK chew out a guy for having binoculars out. The man was doing some spotting while waiting for his family to arrive on a flight. Cop told him he looked suspicious and the gentleman questioned why. Cop ; "You have binoculars out and are staring at planes. How do you NOT look suspicious?



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6966 times:

Quoting Jeffry747 (Reply 15):
Don't feel bad; I got yelled at multiple times at JFK for having a camera out.

If you're taking pictures in the security line or in Custoims/Immigration that's one thing. Otherwise the cops were overreacting.



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User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6874 times:

Obviously terrorist/tourist are becoming synonymous. Seriously, a terrorist spy would have small enough camera equipment that would not been seen, no?


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6852 times:

Quoting Jeffry747 (Reply 15):
Don't feel bad; I got yelled at multiple times at JFK for having a camera out. Screw the cops and security guards and anyone else who wants to stop me. I am gonna be stealthy like the ninja and take pictures anyway. These guys don't seem to understand that there are people out there who love airplanes that make a day out of going to the airport just to see their "loved ones".

that's right...no "5-0" is going to stop me from taking photos and watching beautiful birds.......such as this..


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this is what I put in the "remark section"..."Little did I know I was going to be hassled by the Millbrae City Police in 5 minutes. It was still worth it"

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Paris Airports (Orly, Le Bourget and CDG) have prohobited photography inside the airport. This is because of a new legislation that prohibits French to take photos inside public and protected places. The fine for its breakage is �350.

that's very interesting......while I was transfering last summer from LHR-CDG-DXG, our 737-500 stopped at a remote spot at CDG...we took a bus from the plane to the terminal, but while we were getting off of our bus, there were two police who wanted to see everyone's passports...meanwhile, I was taking photos left and right...when it got to my turn (I was conveniently the last person to exit), the police asked to take my digital camera and delete certain photos.......of course, knowing that I looked like an American and had a United States passport, he spoke to me only in French-from the word go! Fortunately I understand French much better than I speak it, so I had no problems understanding him.. biggrin ...

that being said, he really didn't give me any problems and I took photos at CDG the terminals left and right on multiple occasions with police right next to me, and they never bothered me... no 



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User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6791 times:

People,
from what I read in the the Czech airticle, it says its something new, effective as of now. I wrote an email to CDG asking about this. As soon as they respond me, I will be posting it here.
Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1559 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6772 times:

There's another thread about this in the aviation photography forum,

Photography At Paris CDG And LBG Forbidden! (by 1stspotter Jan 17 2006 in Aviation Photography)

So stupid !



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User currently offlineContnlEliteCMH From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6732 times:

Quoting Jeffry747 (Reply 13):
Cop told him he looked suspicious and the gentleman questioned why. Cop ; "You have binoculars out and are staring at planes. How do you NOT look suspicious?

Cops are paid to look at all people suspiciously. Smart ones, however, can quickly tell when a threat is real or not. This one clearly was not a thinking model. Sadly, I fear most aren't...



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User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6694 times:

Quoting Sebolino (Reply 10):
never heard of this "new legislation" . Please give us your source, I'm most interested.

'Last 7th november was published a 'arrêté prefectoral' law # 05-4979 in connection with police regulations on CDG airport.
Title VIII - General Policy Article 32 - rules it is prohibited:
5 - to take pictures for private use, on all amenities, moving and non moving (buildings) of the reserved area from the public area.
Aeroport de Paris is responsible in putting correct communication to inform the public of those differents prohibitions, thru billboards, posters and other means of information messages. Messages should be written in severals languages and at least in french and english.'
Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1692 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6522 times:

Flew 14dec05 into- (via AF) and out (via RG) of CDG, and have been taken pictures all day without being bothered once !!!
Lot's of police officers around, but was never stopped...
Guess, I don't look suspicious  Big grin



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13140 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6479 times:

From my reading of the law, it is to ban primarly those area of the airport not open to the public - what they term the 'reserve area'. That to me is to suggest no photos of areas like security checkpoints, and generally designeated security critical areas where only airport employee are allowed (behind the security doors), of police equipment, of police and security employees in action or of security procedures. There is a well understood need to limit photography of those areas and people. Of course, some police will take this as a blanket prohibition of all areas as they are lazy, inept or interpet the law broadly so don't have to get into arguements with people.
Many airports in the USA have significant bans on photos or binoculars, as noted in other posts, due to intense security issues. I would also suggest that another reason for a ban at some airports is to limit the access by 'papparazzi', those scum that try to take pictures of celeberties in public places.


User currently offlineTGV From France, joined Dec 2004, 874 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6469 times:

Quoting Sebolino (Reply 10):
I never heard of this "new legislation" . Please give us your source, I'm most interested.

A discussion on the same subject in a French forum (in French !)

http://forums.radiocockpit.com/viewtopic.php?t=22930

Another stupid "posture" taken very probably under the influence of the Interior Minister Sarkozy (the Prefects report to him directly), who is working more on media propaganda than for really trying to solve the problems.



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User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6448 times:

Quoting Nonrevman (Reply 8):
A lot of tourists do take photos at airports, usually like the one in a post above

Yes I was a tourist that day, taking a picture of my kids with the beautiful architecture of 2F as a background, while waiting for our KL flight back home. We went to Paris for the day, to enjoy the flying and climb the Eiffel Tower. It is possible to be a tourist and an aviation enthusiast at once, you know  Wink



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
25 Flyabunch : OK. One little question comes to mind. What about the Paris Airshow? Will photography be prohibited? All those people walking around where they are no
26 Trijetman : Since I live in France, I fly out of CDG all the time, and I haven't noticed anything informing you of this reglementation... Nothing like the non-smo
27 Checo77 : The thing is that this legislation is COMPLETELY new. Effective as you this week of something like that. Its not like it started months ago. Adam[Edi
28 Jacobin777 : notice I said that the police made me delete only CERTAIN photos...not all....and certainly not the ones with the planes in them....if they wanted to
29 Virgin747 : i print out business cards with my jetphotos and airliners id on it.... and on the back is a sample picture. Winnipeg Police and airport security seem
30 Cschleic : Exactly what I was thinking. Kind of a problem if you're trying to sell airplanes. Or what about Toulouse? What, no more photos of A-380 first flight
31 Cedars747 : A flash from a camera was responsible for the collapse of the roof in CDG!!! Alex!!!
32 DavidT : Amazing pic there, I've flown from 2f before - it's an AWESOME terminal.
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