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Why No (landing)lights?  
User currently offlineSpotterke From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 62 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2930 times:
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Hi,i found this pic in the database today and i was wondering why i can't see any lights on this plane.Since it is almost dark in this pic i was expecting at least some landing lights.Anyone with an answer?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=995369

[Edited 2006-01-28 12:22:13]


Marc
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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

It's taking off isn't it?


or maybe not... I don't know but it would explain the absence of lights.

[Edited 2006-01-28 12:31:26]

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Quoting Spotterke (Thread starter):
Hi,i found this pic in the database today and i was wondering why i can't see any lights on this plane

You can't see them because the plane is flying away from you.



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2450 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

Quoting Agill (Reply 1):
or maybe not... I don't know but it would explain the absence of lights.

Are you sure about that? I thought that landing lights was required to be on when below 10,000 feet whether you're climbing or descending.. not totally sure though


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19244 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

When I was at IXM in December, there were no lights at the airport bar the usual blue lights showing edges of the taxiways, etc. No lights at all on the runway.  Smile Was a little surprising, but hey - they know that they're doing.


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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

Well it's a silhouette. Has anybody not also noticed that total lack of colour on the plane?


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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2853 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 3):

Are you sure about that? I thought that landing lights was required to be on when below 10,000 feet whether you're climbing or descending.. not totally sure though

Well they would be pointing the other way wouldn't they so we wouldn't see them.


User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5044 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2853 times:

You're looking at the plane from the back, hence you don't see the landing lights.

User currently offlineOV735 From Estonia, joined Jan 2004, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
You can't see them because the plane is flying away from you.



Quoting Scorpio (Reply 7):
You're looking at the plane from the back, hence you don't see the landing lights.

EMBQA and Scorpio are right. It says in the remarks the other plane has just taken off from rwy 15, and the one in the front is landing on 27, which means that the landing plane has to approach from the left hand side of the rwy 15 direction (which it currently does). If we'd be looking at it head-on, it would have to approach rwy 09, which is unlikely because it says otherwise in the remarks, and because it would have had to cross an active runway with a plane rolling for take-off on it.

So the reason you're not seeing any landing lights is indeed because you're looking at a plane flying away from the camera position.

Cheers,
OV735


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1692 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 7):
You're looking at the plane from the back, hence you don't see the landing lights

Given the caption of this fantastic photo, I've to agree with you 100%  Wink



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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

OV735: Hey I was right too damnit haha

User currently offlineOV735 From Estonia, joined Jan 2004, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

Quoting Agill (Reply 10):
OV735: Hey I was right too damnit haha

Sorry about that.

Yes, Agill was right too.  Silly

OV735


User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1335 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2732 times:

Sometimes we just forget to put them on.

User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 3):
I thought that landing lights was required to be on when below 10,000 feet whether you're climbing or descending.. not totally sure though

Checking my new FAR/AIM 2006 book..According to AIM 4-3-23 "Use Of Aircraft Lights" (C)...The FAA has a voluntary pilot safety program, Operation Lights On, to enhance the see-and-avoid concept. Pilots are encouraged to turn on their landing lights during Takeoff. Pilots are further encouraged to turn on their landing lights when operating below 10,000 ft day or night esp. when operating within 10 miles of any airport, or in conditions of reduced visibility and area's where flocks of birds may be except.


User currently offlinePawsleykat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

Quoting Agill (Reply 1):
It's taking off isn't it?

That's why in the photo description it says that the CO B737-700 is approaching the runway!  conehead 



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User currently offlineSpotterke From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
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Quoting Pawsleykat (Reply 14):



Quoting Pawsleykat (Reply 14):
That's why in the photo description it says that the CO B737-700 is approaching the runway!

Yes and it's that plane i meant.That is surely not taking off and that's why i asked this question.When a plane is landing they must have their lights on i think.



Marc
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2450 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 13):

Checking my new FAR/AIM 2006 book..According to AIM 4-3-23 "Use Of Aircraft Lights" (C)...The FAA has a voluntary pilot safety program, Operation Lights On, to enhance the see-and-avoid concept. Pilots are encouraged to turn on their landing lights during Takeoff. Pilots are further encouraged to turn on their landing lights when operating below 10,000 ft day or night esp. when operating within 10 miles of any airport, or in conditions of reduced visibility and area's where flocks of birds may be except.

ah okay! thanks! I dont remember where I heard it from..


User currently offlinePropilotjw From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 589 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
You can't see them because the plane is flying away from you.

Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner!

The brake lights havn't come on yet haha  Wink


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2540 times:


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The spotters at the other end would see them  Smile
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MEL



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