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Why No (landing)lights?  
User currently offlineSpotterke From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 62 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2869 times:
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Hi,i found this pic in the database today and i was wondering why i can't see any lights on this plane.Since it is almost dark in this pic i was expecting at least some landing lights.Anyone with an answer?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=995369

[Edited 2006-01-28 12:22:13]


Marc
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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2847 times:

It's taking off isn't it?


or maybe not... I don't know but it would explain the absence of lights.

[Edited 2006-01-28 12:31:26]

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

Quoting Spotterke (Thread starter):
Hi,i found this pic in the database today and i was wondering why i can't see any lights on this plane

You can't see them because the plane is flying away from you.



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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

Quoting Agill (Reply 1):
or maybe not... I don't know but it would explain the absence of lights.

Are you sure about that? I thought that landing lights was required to be on when below 10,000 feet whether you're climbing or descending.. not totally sure though


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

When I was at IXM in December, there were no lights at the airport bar the usual blue lights showing edges of the taxiways, etc. No lights at all on the runway.  Smile Was a little surprising, but hey - they know that they're doing.


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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2807 times:

Well it's a silhouette. Has anybody not also noticed that total lack of colour on the plane?


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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 3):

Are you sure about that? I thought that landing lights was required to be on when below 10,000 feet whether you're climbing or descending.. not totally sure though

Well they would be pointing the other way wouldn't they so we wouldn't see them.


User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5032 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

You're looking at the plane from the back, hence you don't see the landing lights.

User currently offlineOV735 From Estonia, joined Jan 2004, 913 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
You can't see them because the plane is flying away from you.



Quoting Scorpio (Reply 7):
You're looking at the plane from the back, hence you don't see the landing lights.

EMBQA and Scorpio are right. It says in the remarks the other plane has just taken off from rwy 15, and the one in the front is landing on 27, which means that the landing plane has to approach from the left hand side of the rwy 15 direction (which it currently does). If we'd be looking at it head-on, it would have to approach rwy 09, which is unlikely because it says otherwise in the remarks, and because it would have had to cross an active runway with a plane rolling for take-off on it.

So the reason you're not seeing any landing lights is indeed because you're looking at a plane flying away from the camera position.

Cheers,
OV735


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1691 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 7):
You're looking at the plane from the back, hence you don't see the landing lights

Given the caption of this fantastic photo, I've to agree with you 100%  Wink



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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2713 times:

OV735: Hey I was right too damnit haha

User currently offlineOV735 From Estonia, joined Jan 2004, 913 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2677 times:

Quoting Agill (Reply 10):
OV735: Hey I was right too damnit haha

Sorry about that.

Yes, Agill was right too.  Silly

OV735


User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1330 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2671 times:

Sometimes we just forget to put them on.

User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2612 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 3):
I thought that landing lights was required to be on when below 10,000 feet whether you're climbing or descending.. not totally sure though

Checking my new FAR/AIM 2006 book..According to AIM 4-3-23 "Use Of Aircraft Lights" (C)...The FAA has a voluntary pilot safety program, Operation Lights On, to enhance the see-and-avoid concept. Pilots are encouraged to turn on their landing lights during Takeoff. Pilots are further encouraged to turn on their landing lights when operating below 10,000 ft day or night esp. when operating within 10 miles of any airport, or in conditions of reduced visibility and area's where flocks of birds may be except.


User currently offlinePawsleykat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2612 times:

Quoting Agill (Reply 1):
It's taking off isn't it?

That's why in the photo description it says that the CO B737-700 is approaching the runway!  conehead 



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User currently offlineSpotterke From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2574 times:
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Quoting Pawsleykat (Reply 14):



Quoting Pawsleykat (Reply 14):
That's why in the photo description it says that the CO B737-700 is approaching the runway!

Yes and it's that plane i meant.That is surely not taking off and that's why i asked this question.When a plane is landing they must have their lights on i think.



Marc
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2574 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 13):

Checking my new FAR/AIM 2006 book..According to AIM 4-3-23 "Use Of Aircraft Lights" (C)...The FAA has a voluntary pilot safety program, Operation Lights On, to enhance the see-and-avoid concept. Pilots are encouraged to turn on their landing lights during Takeoff. Pilots are further encouraged to turn on their landing lights when operating below 10,000 ft day or night esp. when operating within 10 miles of any airport, or in conditions of reduced visibility and area's where flocks of birds may be except.

ah okay! thanks! I dont remember where I heard it from..


User currently offlinePropilotjw From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 589 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2565 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 2):
You can't see them because the plane is flying away from you.

Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner!

The brake lights havn't come on yet haha  Wink


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2479 times:


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The spotters at the other end would see them  Smile
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