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User currently offlineTwoLz2Rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 450 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10117 times:

I remember a while back when UPS offereed passenger service to select destination. Question...What cities did they serve? WHy was it cut? HOw long did it take to change the inside from cargo to passenger?

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User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1353 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10106 times:

They used to fly charter TPA-CUN on 727-100's. Their counter was right next to ValuJet & NW on the red side of the terminal, with a plain UPS logo hanging from the top of the counter.

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9998 times:

By the way...Where did Greyhound use to fly?


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User currently offlinePurdueAv2003 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 251 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9965 times:

The pep band for the Purdue Women's BBall team (GABS) was "shipped" UPS to one of the NCAA tournament games several years back. We joked at the time that the university was pocketing our tuition and sending the band in "Next Day" boxes to the game. I knew a few band members, and they said it wasn't too bad, though.


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25143 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9898 times:

UPS had a small subfleet (10'ish or so) B727-100QC that could be configured with passenger seats.
They mostly flew weekend fun/sun and cruise charters along the East Coast, however did on occasion make it out West as part of group or team charters.

Interestingly UPS somewhat followed the FEDEX footsteps whom also had a small passenger operation using 3 or so B737-200 in the early 1980s.

Overall not a terrible idea in trying to get better utilization and revenues from your fleet while it would otherwise be sitting on the ground, however eventually I think the idea faded away as it added too much complexity to the very streamlined operations Fedex & UPS operate.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
Where did Greyhound use to fly?

Greyhound was a Canadian low fare carrier using B727-200s and having a Winnipeg hub connecting Eastern and Western Canada. They were backed by Greyhound bus lines and had joint marketing allowing you to mix airline/bus tickets to reach many smaller communities.
They only lasted for something like 1 year before shutting down.



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User currently offlinePHLAUA From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9845 times:

If I remember correctly, I think the east coast operation (a/c fittings, etc.) was based at PHL.

Jeff


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9800 times:

UPS used to fly to BOS and NAS I know


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User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9717 times:

The cabins of 5X's pax birds were really nice, took less than four hours to reconfig. After a while, the kits started to look worn. Some pretty high profile charters...we had the White House Press Corp come in on one...

User currently offlineGeg2rap From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 851 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9513 times:

check out this article here on a.net it is really good and tells some of the passenger tale.

http://www.airliners.net/articles/read.main?id=66


User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9340 times:

I thought they did SDF-CUN as well. I remember trying to fly them but i would of had to fly from CHI-SDF to do so.


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User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2287 posts, RR: 38
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7167 times:

They used to fly regular "scheduled" charters from PIT-CUN and Santo Domingo.


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User currently offlineUPSMD11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 814 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7094 times:
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I heard part of the reason this isn't going on any longer is that the 727-100 could not hold the passenger count the charter companies were looking for. Just think if our 757 fleet was able to be configured for passenger during the day and packages at night.

Sadly the 757s are freight built with no windows -- hey maybe the DC8s could be .... nah .... just a fleeting fantasy I guess.

Cheers,
John


User currently offlineCharlipr From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2005, 340 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 6432 times:

At one point they were flying to SJU!!

User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2586 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 6421 times:

IIRC, my brother in Louisville told me that he and his wife flew to Aruba on a vacation package utilizing UPS.

User currently offlineKYAir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months ago) and read 6337 times:

Quoting Johnboy (Reply 13):
IIRC, my brother in Louisville told me that he and his wife flew to Aruba on a vacation package utilizing UPS.

They did use SDF as I remember seeing their check-in counter, something like 10 years ago.



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User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1995 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6155 times:

UPS wants to make money, and flying passengers is not a way to do that.

User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6092 times:

Reminds me of SkyHigh Big grin


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User currently offlineJeffry747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 963 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6034 times:
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Quoting Johnboy (Reply 13):
IIRC, my brother in Louisville told me that he and his wife flew to Aruba on a vacation package utilizing UPS.



Quoting KYAir (Reply 14):
They did use SDF as I remember seeing their check-in counter, something like 10 years ago.

You are both correct. I work at UPS, and used to work the cafeteria and snack bars at the SDF terminal before they were remodeled. On many occasions I did see passengers boarding UPS pax aircraft, mostly from a gate they shared with AA. A few days later, the same aircraft would be sitting in an out of the way spot on Ramp 9, the largest UPS ramp at SDF. During the course of the night you could watch as they converted the plane for cargo ops. By the end of the night she was ready to go for a package flight to wherever.



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User currently offlineBryanG From United States of America, joined May 1999, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5915 times:

I recall seeing pax UPS 727s operate out of BWI many times. Always charter.

They'd set up a big temorary sign at one of the check-in counters, with the old brown UPS logo. At least they weren't ashamed of advertising that they were flying pax! I wonder what the passegers thought when they were told to check in with "UPS Airlines" ?!?


User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5812 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 4):
Interestingly UPS somewhat followed the FEDEX footsteps whom also had a small passenger operation using 3 or so B737-200 in the early 1980s.

Hey Laxintl, Can you tell me where you got that info on Fedex carrying pax in 737s? I got hired in the early 80s and know we flew a few 737s(they were on the freight ramp) for a short time but I know a few of the guys that did this and there was never any mention or evidence that I saw regarding pax. I know that they talked about it but from what I was told scrapped the idea when they concluded that by the time you change interiors, have F/As and serve food and bev there was no money to be made. Of course today with day and night sorts it would require a complete seperate set of jets. Just curious...CC


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