Dxb From United Arab Emirates, joined Feb 2004, 25 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6853 times:
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Always abreast of innovations in the industry and equipping itself with the fleet for the future to enhance passengers’ inflight comfort, Emirates has undertaken to refurbish its fleet of Boeing 777-200 aircraft.
The Emirates Engineering Centre is retrofitting all the aircraft in-house with its existing state-of-the-art facilities as well as innovative new systems.
Emirates' current fleet of 88 aircraft includes nine Boeing 777-200s, of which seven have been refurbished and the other two will be ready by January 2007. The First Class cabins of the 777-200 now boast of 12 roomy, lie flat seats that convert to a bed at the touch of a button. A 2-2-2 seat configuration with wider aisles, electrically-operated privacy dividers and in-seat reading lights provide privacy and the comfort of home. The centre seats are pitched up to 84 inches apart and provide easy access to the aisles. The seats have a soothing five-zone massage system while the one-touch seat controls are preset for bed, cradle and upright positions. Personal swivel tables with book functions are available at the touch of a button, as is laptop power.
The Business Class cabins have been converted to feature roomy, sleeperette seats in a 2-3-2 configuration with pitch of up to 60 inches, adjustable winged head-rests with four-way movement for optimum comfort, and in-seat laptop power which provide plenty of room to work or stretch out and relax.
Economy passengers can enjoy more comfort than ever with roomier cabins, 34-inch seat pitch, and adjustable footrests and headrests.
But that’s not all. The 777-200s also have been retrofitted with the ICE (information, communication and entertainment) system, available on passengers’ personal 19-inch digital display screens in First Class and 10.4-inch digital display screens in Business Class.
The system offers more than 500 audio, video and games channels available on demand and is available to customers travelling in every class. Besides the multitude of entertainment options available, ICE offers email and SMS facilities as well. Currently, nearly 35 per cent of Emirates' fleet is fitted with Panasonic’s latest 3000i, dubbed ‘ICE’ at Emirates.
Tim Clark, President Emirates Airline said: “Emirates has always prided itself on its inflight product offering – from service standards to seats and from food to entertainment. We have re-designed the interiors of the Boeing 777-200s to bring them in line with our new Boeing 777-300ERs and the Airbus A340-500s. Although you perceive the same aircraft on the outside, the heart of our 777-200s is beating with re-designed interiors and enhanced entertainment options. The Emirates Engineering Centre has proved it’s a world-class facility, and has done a fantastic job in re-designing and refitting the 777-200s.”
Emirates has also overhauled its 29 A330-200s for increased passenger comfort. The Business Class cabins have been refurbished to increase seat pitch from 48-49 inches to 58-63 inches, with the recline of the seats increased from 11 to 15 inches and height of the leg-rests raised from 6.1 inches to 9.5-12.5 inches depending on the configuration. The eight A340-300s have been similarly refurbished to increase recline and raise the height of the leg-rests.
CXtra From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 263 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 4194 times:
Quoting Crewtagdotcom (Reply 17): Their First Class product on 777 is pretty current. But their Business Class product is very dated. They need to increase the legroom and the recline if they decide not to introduce flat beds.
i agree. as i've said before on another thread, ek says its pax don't want lie flat but that excuse certainly doesn't wash with me. their seats in business are far behind the likes of mh, tg, sq, cx, ba etc etc... as mentioned above, the legroom and recline is increased on the b772s, b773ers, a343s and a330s but what about the a345 and b773? these are the two a/c you'd normally fly on a lhr-dxb-syd routing. personally, i don't find the a345 seats that comfortable for these reasons.
having said all this, i'd say we could expect a brand new product on the a388s, as sq have promised, but until then, i'd say emirates seats (but not food, service etc..) are quite far behind.
Quoting N1120A (Reply 12): Because they use those birds on some very high demand, lower yield flights to South Asia
yes, the 772s are heavily utilised on dxb-bkk routes etc and fares are extremely cheap. i recently booked a j class return from bkk to lhr for around AU$2500 (about US$1850).
Paul From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 374 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 4042 times:
I am booked on the LGW-DBX-SYD and return SYD-DBX-LHR in April with 772, A345 and 773ER in Business Class. I must say I am most looking forward to the flights.
The flat bed concept only truly works for all passengers if it is actually flat. That is as we all know something only a few airlines have utilized. I actually do like the look of the EK seat of the 777's and the A345. I have heard they are well padded on the T7's and have very good recline and leg rests. I would prefer this than to be on angle lie bed that makes me feel as though I am sliding down.
As for the Airbus, the reviews I have read made it sound like a very nice product. Together with the service, food and IFE and cabin decor, I cannot wait to try out EK for the first time.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 4021 times:
Quoting Crewtagdotcom (Reply 17): But their Business Class product is very dated. They need to increase the legroom and the recline if they decide not to introduce flat beds.
Isn't that what they've just done? Increased pitch to 60" and recline to match?
Besides, what most people forget about EK is that the service is almost always impeccable, the food excellent and well presented (and plentiful), the IFE top notch, and the booze endless. I've flown way too many airlines in Business where the seats may be new generation, but the service, food and ambience are crap. EK avoids this trap.
CXtra From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 263 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3855 times:
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 21): Isn't that what they've just done? Increased pitch to 60" and recline to match?
yes, but as i mentioned, not on the 773 and not the seat pitch on the a345.
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 21): I've flown way too many airlines in Business where the seats may be new generation, but the service, food and ambience are crap.
the seats and pitch are the main reason people fly j, imo.
Quoting Paul (Reply 20): The flat bed concept only truly works for all passengers if it is actually flat
are you referring to the superiority of ba, vs, nz and sa? i.e. horizontal not inclined. i find that inclined lie flat is still superior to ek non flat seats. i did not feel i was sliding down in cx business. anyway, i'm sure you'll have a great trip with avod ife, food, etc...enjoy.
EK380 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3747 times:
Quoting CXtra (Reply 22): are you referring to the superiority of ba, vs, nz and sa? i.e. horizontal not inclined. i find that inclined lie flat is still superior to ek non flat seats. i did not feel i was sliding down in cx business.
Ok..ive always had a question about this stuff.
Dont these airlines loose out on the number of seats in business in the quest of the "lie-flat" concept??
because of this , dont they charge way more than say EK and rest?
VS always talks about their seats being the "biggest beds in Business". But they dont even have a First Class. Infact, their business, is equivalent to other airlines' first- and they charge considerably more than any other airlines' J class product. So why do they classify their "Upper Class" as equivalent to Business?
Personally, I hate the angled lie flat concept. It depends from person to person, some feel that they are sliding down (like me) and others find it absolutely fine.
25 Paul: I completely agree with you EK380. VS do charge more for their upper class than most for J. I have been extensively investigating Business Class fligh
26 Viscount: I flew in one of those 3-4-3 configured 777s that BA used to operate and it was living hell! I agree with those that think that this config for airlin
27 CXtra: because it is. vs charge similar prices for their upper class to ba, qf, and sq in business. also, there are many more seats than any first class. ye
28 Chrisrad: Thats what I meant, EK are "almost" always good. There is no consistency, and those who beleive EK's service is so superior really do get brainwashed
29 Antskip: I have travelled EK 4-5 times a year the past 5 years in cattle class and never had an experience of poor service. I have found FA's on EK remarkably
30 EK380: Its definately not all marketing hype. It has always been good, but unforutnately due to the recent "mega expansion" some people have had bad experie
31 Zizou: My flights with Emirates have been good and wouldn't hesitate to fly with them again. But right now, they don't compare too well to Singapore Airlines