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Which Airlines Had The Most Changes Of Livery?  
User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8567 times:

Hello all

I couldn't understand exactly how to put picture on this. So put a link to it.
I don't know if this was notice on any thread. I just thought I would make a new thread. Have you seen this paint livery on Delta 75yr Anniversary although it has been on for 2yrs. I didn't see this picture before. Was that the original livery Delta had when they started? Its ver interesting to see the original livery of all airlines when they were born up to present time they go through several livery changes. I wonder which airline goes through the most changes of livery of all time?

Any comments are appreciate.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...20ol%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=43

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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3130 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8530 times:

I'm not too sure, but would say UA, US Airways and BA would definitely make it to the top ten list...maybe AC too...

User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8400 times:

I am sure Delta is it ... and would not be surprised if they come up with yet another one after they are done with their bankruptcy issue...

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8370 times:

How about USAir?


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User currently offlineMakeMinesLAX From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8219 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 3):
How about USAir?

I would consider the first two to be the same - there were a number of airlines which switched to or experimented with bare metal in the 70s and 80s - Eastern, Western and Aeromexico, to name a few. Of course, US Airways is probably the leader when it comes to mergers, so it's no surprise that they've kept the livery designers on their toes.

I was pleasantly surprised to see this:

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because it explains this:

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User currently offlineDreamflight767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 8159 times:
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F9, B6, and BA with all their new tails...LOL, j/k. Aeroflot, DL, and Us Airways have had a few too.

User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7992 times:

Honorable mention to Royal Jordanian, especially for the five experimental Trisatr liveries in the early 80's...

Runner up: Air Canada
red cheatline/black letters, red cheatline/red letters, two-tone red cheatline, white fusealge/green tail, present livery...

However, the winner is...

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User currently onlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5723 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7983 times:

How about American Airlines?  duck 

Before the DC-3's they had how many paint jobs on the differnent planes?



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User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7858 times:

red cheatline/black letters, red cheatline/red letters, two-tone red cheatline, white fusealge/green tail, present livery...

You forgot Trans Canada Airlines livery too.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7838 times:

Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter):
Was that the original livery Delta had when they started?

It is pretty close to what they had back in the old days. Search for pics on the AA AstroJet to see what they used to look like.



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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7788 times:

Side question: How do you pronounce "livery"? Does the first part sound like "LIVE from New York it's Saturday Night"? Or like "He drank too much and needs a LIVER transplant"?

User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7781 times:

the PSA new livery for US AIR look so cool and new, they should have used that for the new US AIRWAYS


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User currently offlineGdodds From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7760 times:

Livery is pronounced LIVER-Y.

BA has only change livery 3 times (since the merger), i don't count that as being too many


User currently offlineKYAir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7712 times:

I think it's odd DL is on the list, as their classic widget livery was used from late '60s/early'70s unchanged until the mid '90s. Yeah, I know they had 2 liveries in the '90s and have now tweaked the current one back to the classic widget logo...


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User currently offlineManchesteruk From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7637 times:

how about this, 1999 flying colours....2001 jmc.....2003 to present thomas cook

thats 3 in 7 years


User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7370 times:

Quoting KYAir (Reply 13):
and have now tweaked the current one back to the classic widget logo...

Dang. Thats awesome! When did they decide on that?


User currently offlineKYAir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7265 times:

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 15):
Dang. Thats awesome! When did they decide on that?

Don't know, but it's been around since at least December 2004.


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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3447 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7203 times:

Quoting KYAir (Reply 16):

Don't know, but it's been around since at least December 2004.

I think he understood it to be that DL had gone back to the widget colour scheme. The only thing that changed was that the widget next to "Delta" on the fuselage reverted to the old "pointy" one instead of the newer "curved" one.


User currently offlineKYAir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7139 times:

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 17):
I think he understood it to be that DL had gone back to the widget colour scheme.

Sorry GQfluffy if I misled you. BTW, it's hard to type "GQFluffy" without laughing - interesting name!



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7107 times:

In its 12(?) year existence, NK has had 3 standard livery schemes (excluding the Express One Hybrids & the 10th Anniversary schemes); both changes occurred within the last 4 years:


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In a similar time period, FL had 2 scheme changes as well (not counting the Sir Elton John decals & the adding of airtran.com on the engine cowlings) but the first change was a result of the J7 merger.


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Quoting MakeMinesLAX (Reply 4):
Quoting Matt D (Reply 3):
How about USAir?

I would consider the first two to be the same - there were a number of airlines which switched to or experimented with bare metal in the 70s and 80s - Eastern, Western and Aeromexico, to name a few. Of course, US Airways is probably the leader when it comes to mergers, so it's no surprise that they've kept the livery designers on their toes.


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Actually, that early white USAir scheme could be considered an Allegheny-hybrid (AL's 1975 livery w/US titles). Since AL changed to US just 4 years later, I believe (I could be mistaken on this part) the first planes to get the US bare metal look were the ones that still bared the pre-75 wedge livery.

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Over time, all the planes became bare metal w/the tri-color cheatline.

Even without the merger hybrids, US has had 4 standard liveries throughout the last 25 years; including the new scheme courtesy of the HP merger.



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User currently offlineAirman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 980 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6526 times:

Hey there
If I knew how to post pictures on there I would show you the MANY MANY current colors of skyserivce airlines. As many of us call it here our BI POLAR fleet. Cannot make up its mind from one plane to the next.  Big grin I would say Skyserivce Ranks up there with many others in MANY different colors in the fleet past and present.

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User currently offlineSkyHarborsHome From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 273 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5859 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 19):
In a similar time period, FL had 2 scheme changes as well (not counting the Sir Elton John decals & the adding of airtran.com on the engine cowlings) but the first change was a result of the J7 merger.

Could you include the ValueJet livery? hehe.



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5529 times:

Quoting SkyHarborsHome (Reply 21):
Could you include the ValueJet livery? hehe.

If I did that, I would then have to include HP's schemes when referring to US. Big grin

Speaking of US, I forgot about the unique US Shuttle Schemes; particularly the ex-Trump Shuttle 727s (white USAir Shuttle) and a couple of DC-9s (in an old/new hybrid scheme). Since these planes were exclusively used (by & large) for shuttle routes (when wearing the Shuttle titles), these schemes could be included when counting the number of schemes US' standard livery mix.


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I'm assuming that when the current A319/320 Shuttle planes get repainted to US' new scheme; they will still sport Shuttle titles.

I do NOT count the bare metal No Fees, No Brainer scheme that was on some of the 733s because that was a painting mishap-turned promotional livery scheme.


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Speaking of which (one could start a whole new thread on this subject), is this scheme still out there or did these planes eventually get repainted to the old (pre-HP merger scheme)?



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User currently offlineKYAir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5479 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 22):
I do NOT count the bare metal No Fees, No Brainer scheme that was on some of the 733s because that was a painting mishap-turned promotional livery scheme.

It wasn't a painting mishap, but rather a fatigue issue. There were/are areas of some 737s in the US fleet showing signs of corrosion and were being monitored on a (I think) monthly basis. Since obviously paint would cover the area of the skin to be inspected, the aircraft would need to be stripped and repainted each month - way too expensive and wasteful. So US decided on the bare metal "usairways.com" scheme to allow easy corrosion checks.

[Edited 2006-01-31 18:37:54]


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User currently offlineBdl2dca From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5456 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 22):
Speaking of US, I forgot about the unique US Shuttle Schemes; particularly the ex-Trump Shuttle 727s (white USAir Shuttle) and a couple of DC-9s (in an old/new hybrid scheme).

That begs the question. When did US use the DC9 on the shuttle routes. I remember the 727s which were replaced by the 319s. And I remember the 733s being used for the DCA-BOS shuttle routes.

When and for which routes did US use the DC9?



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25 Post contains links and images BOAC707 : CPAir/Canadian should be on the list....they were flying with three liveries at one time.... View Large View MediumPhoto © Andrew Hunt - AirTeamI
26 PHLBOS : The DC-9 Shuttles existed from 1999 to 2000 or even early 2001 (all remaining US DC-9s were retired after Aug. 18, 2001) until the A319/320 Shuttles
27 Post contains images MakeMinesLAX : I know, I know... But Braniff (Mark I) did go through four in about a 15-year span: Man, that last one's a beaut!
28 YOW : At the time of the PWA/CP merger, the newly merged CP had 6 liveries on the go: Canadi>n Canadian Pacific hybrid CP Air hybrid Pacific Western hybrid
29 Post contains links and images Arcano : With 3 liveries in less than 10 years: Lan Chile: View Large View MediumPhoto © Remi Dallot View Large View MediumPhoto © Bernardo Andrade V
30 Flybynight : If they do. Any specific good news on that front?
31 Post contains links and images AirOrange : Transavia changed livery very often since its erection in 1965: Transavia Limburg > Transavia Holland > Transavia > Transavia Airlines > Basiq Air > t
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