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Joining Cabin Crew With A Hearing Disability?  
User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3363 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3486 times:

I have a friend who is hard of hearing and she speaks english and arabic fluently, but is oral due to hearing loss, she was asking me if it was possible to apply for cabin crew, since she wanted to see the world and also likes flying as well. (she knows she cannot pass a pilot medical and wanted some way into it)

I did not want to give her a direct NO since I have never been in that field and I cant really find much detail on which airlines might be accomodating or open. She is Egyptian nationality. I know that FAA rules with US carriers would mandate something like understand a whisper 30 feet away or something, but I was assuming that International or some 3rd World Airlines might differ.

Id like some feedback.


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9671 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

In the United States a third class medical certificate is usually required. The health of flight attendants are important. Flight attendants are there for safety first and foremost, so a flight attendant should not be hard of hearing, since they will not be able to perform their required duties. Here are the requirements for a third class medical certificate:

67.105 Ear, nose, throat, and equilibrium. -

Ear, nose, throat, and equilibrium standards for a first-class
airman medical certificate are:
(a) The person shall demonstrate acceptable hearing by at least one of the following tests:
(1) Demonstrate an ability to hear an average conversational voice in a quiet room, using both ears, at a distance of 6 feet from the examiner, with the back turned to the examiner.
(2) Demonstrate an acceptable understanding of speech as determined by audiometric speech discrimination testing to a score of at least 70 percent obtained in one ear or in a sound field environment.
(3) Provide acceptable results of pure tone audiometric testing of
unaided hearing acuity according to the following table of worst
acceptable thresholds, using the calibration standards of the American National Standards Institute, 1969 (11 West 42d Street, New York, NY 10036):

------------------------------------------------------------------------
500 1000 2000 3000
Frequency (Hz) Hz Hz Hz Hz TAKE AN ONLINE HEARING TEST
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Better ear (Db)............................... 35 30 30 40
Poorer ear (Db)............................... 35 50 50 60
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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3443 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 1):
In the United States a third class medical certificate is usually required.

Not so, There is no official medical certificate required for FA's in the US. Individual airlines have their own medical testing proceedures which range anywhere between nothing but a prehire drugscreen to a full medical examination.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9671 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3440 times:

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 2):
Not so, There is no official medical certificate required for FA's in the US. Individual airlines have their own medical testing proceedures which range anywhere between nothing but a prehire drugscreen to a full medical examination.

That is why I said usually. Many airlines require the equivalaent of a third class medical certificate. Some smaller airlines have less requirements, but if you are looking at the larger airlines, then you will likely have to pass certain medical tests and a third class medical certificate is about what is required.

Being hard of hearing is not going to be acceptable to airlines in the United States at least. I can't speak for other countries like the original thread poster wanted to know about.



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3347 times:

I guess those on international airlines dont bother noticing what medical exams are done etc. while of course the FAA/JAA are more strict


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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3322 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
That is why I said usually

No actually not usually. I can tell you from a sampling of 9 Airlines that hired me only 2 of them had any kind of medical exam. And yes all but 4 of those were large airlines. Only one airline, AA tested for hearing. So if the disability is not obvious to casual observation the odds are you could get hired as an FA somewhere.

I'm curious to know what in your background qualifies you to opine on this topic?


User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 5):
Only one airline, AA tested for hearing.

I think Delta is another airline that does a Hearing Test for every position from CSA to Mechanic as well.



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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3223 times:

Only one of the ones I interviewed with.

User currently offlineRichM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 803 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

I don't know much about this, but surely if the person was to wear a hearing aid, they may be able to meet the requirements? (if medical tests are applicable) As far as I know (correct me if I am wrong) but FA's don't get turned away for having a degree of visual impairment resulting in the use of contact lenses or glasses in order to correct the impairment. So I assume the same would apply for those who have hearing loss?

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