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NZ Says Heavy MX Can Stay In AKL  
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11857 posts, RR: 18
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2474 times:
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This should make NZ1 happy  

Just seen on One News that NZ have admitted that the heavy MX can stay in AKL, instead of sending the long haul aircraft to Asia. There will be a few job losses thou, but not as much as was originally planned (600+ jobs). MX personal will be given the proposals within the next few weeks.

Will post a link when I find one

[Edited 2006-01-30 06:17:51]

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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

A few more details..

NZ said the original deal put to it by the unions, which would involve the loss of only 300 jobs instead of the original 600, was too expensive, but over the weekend the union came up with a new proposal which the company appears to have found acceptable. They said no details will be released until the affected workers have heard them first.



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User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

Let's hope no-one gets shafted too badly by the deal, I know a lot of pax will be happy to know the fleet maintenance will stay here. Me for one!

User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2375 times:
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777ER, TG992

We have a meeting this Thurs/Fri to tell us about it. From what I hear, it is a double edged sword. Some good things, some bad. It will depend on whether the engineers can stomach enough of the good to make the bad seem, well, not to bad. Are you confused yet?  Smile

NZ1


User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2373 times:
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Heres a link I found.

http://www.tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411749/655056

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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

A full news article now up at http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3556489a10,00.html

Some quotes:


Air New Zealand has accepted a union plan aimed at preventing hundreds of redundancies among the airline's engineering staff.

EPMU (the engineer's union) national secretary Andrew Little said details on how many redundancies were proposed in the plan would not be made public until after union members had been informed.

Mr Little said the airline had also worked hard to save jobs.

"I think they have in the last few weeks, been keen to make the union proposal work. I think they have seen value in doing what can be done to keep the work here in New Zealand."

He said he did not want to pre-empt the workers' reaction to the plan, given that it involved job cuts.

"I think our members have been aware of what the issues are ... and I think they have to be given the time and space to consider the detail and make up their own minds before they vote on it."

The airline originally planned to send both aero engine and wide body heavy maintenance to offshore providers, axing 617 mostly Auckland-based jobs.

Last month the company confirmed the aero engine work would definitely go offshore in the New Year, cutting 110 jobs and saving the airline $52 million over five years.

Today's counter-proposal could see the wide body heavy maintenance work remain in-house, through a combination of job losses and labour reform.

Last month the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union (EPMU) and the Aviation and Marine Engineers Association indicated it might be able to save about 300 jobs.

But in a statement today, the airline said the unions' initial proposal did not deliver the required remaining savings of $48 million over five years.

Over the weekend, however, the unions came back with an offer that would deliver the savings, to save the wide body maintenance work.

The proposal hinges on whether the Christchurch workforce, which services the airline's narrow body fleet, will veto the proposal.

Union representatives will take the proposal to members at meetings in Auckland and Christchurch for a vote on February 9 and 10. The ballot results are due out on February 13.



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11857 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2343 times:
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Thanks for the links NZ1 and TG992. At least NZs MX staff can breath a bit easier now.

Would NZs plan also help QF to keep their aircraft MX at home?


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8493 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2294 times:
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Quoting NZ1 (Reply 3):
We have a meeting this Thurs/Fri to tell us about it. From what I hear, it is a double edged sword. Some good things, some bad. It will depend on whether the engineers can stomach enough of the good to make the bad seem, well, not to bad.

I really hope the good news outweighs the bad . Although I'm not a nervous flyer I always feel just that little bit safer when travelling on NZ or QF



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User currently onlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

Well, good luck to all the guys affected by this. I hope the outcome is desireable.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11857 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2082 times:
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Just seen more info on TV1 news.

CHC MX emplyees will play a big part in this new deal. Some NZ MX employees earn upto $185,000 (before over time pay etc). The new deal will mean permament weekend and night shifts. Each employee would get a set over time hours each month and when the hours are reached the employee is sent home after their normal shift.

Posters are already going up at AKL saying "vote no" to the new deal.....obviously some people don't want their jobs.


User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2068 times:
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Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
Some NZ MX employees earn upto $185,000 (before over time pay etc).

Ummm, NO. Nobody on the hangar floor earns that much, even WITH overtime. Don't know where TV1 get their info. Just as bad as the Herald. Thats a huge sum of money, and couldn't be further from the truth. If the guys were working 80 hours per WEEK they may end up with $120,000 per year, but man thats a lot of hours at work.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
The new deal will mean permament weekend and night shifts. Each employee would get a set over time hours each month and when the hours are reached the employee is sent home after their normal shift.

This is wrong also. TV1 are negligent for reporting such crap. The new deal, does away with overtime, so how can each employee be restricted to a certain amount???

FRUSTRATED

NZ1


User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6910 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 10):
Don't know where TV1 get their info. Just as bad as the Herald

When any of the media grabs onto anything at all about Air New Zealand they publish it, TVNZ should sell out to Fox, and the Herald to The Sun.... they all couldn't report anything accurately if their lives depended on it, which unfortunately they don't - it's a pity they might report accurately then.


User currently offlineEngineersWife From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1902 times:

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 10):
Don't know where TV1 get their info.

Makes you wonder how accurate other news reports are.

AirNZ always seem to be targeted in a bad light - some deserved - some not.

I hope the engineers can sort something out - these guys have families too!

I bet the management aren't taking paycuts or job losses to help the airlines cashflow.....



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User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
Posters are already going up at AKL saying "vote no" to the new deal.....obviously some people don't want their jobs

Unfortunately that is the downside of Unions, always someone would rather be on the dole than "selling out to the management".


User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1784 times:
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Quoting EngineersWife (Reply 12):
I bet the management aren't taking paycuts or job losses to help the airlines cashflow....

Haha, don't make me laugh. Management and paycut are 2 words never to be used in the same sentence. Better pick myself up off the floor now  Smile

NZ1


User currently offlineRichardJF From New Zealand, joined Mar 2001, 792 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Quoting EngineersWife (Reply 12):
I bet the management aren't taking paycuts or job losses to help the airlines cashflow.....

How does Rob Fyfe's pay compare to Geoff Dixons. Are they on similar amounts?


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